Airport Express problems the ongoing saga....and why I wouldn't buy a MAC
Hi to all,
I bought two AEX(n) boxes in Feb 2009. Out of the box, both of them dropped out music from iTunes. Over the past year this is what I have done to try and coax the AEX to work.
- Initial OS Windows XP Feb 2009 itunes 7 & 8. Asus W2J notebook. Problem : Drop outs on audio every 30seconds
- May 2009 new install of Vista Ultimate on Sony Vaio FW notebook. Itunes 8 & 9. Audio drop outs, Utility fails to see AEX. Bought Linksys WRT360N router. No change.
- Jan 2010, New install Windows 7 with SSD, 5.4.2 Airport installer itunes 9.02. Problem : Utility can initially detect the AEX, but fails to find the device after firmware upgrade to 7.4.2. The utlity can configure other, which is strange, so it can detect the AEX. Different Firewalls to initial setups.
Apart from the above, I have reset the AEX to no avail, switched off cordless phones, microwaves, change channels on router, changed locations, poured over information from these forums to see if a current fix would work.
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