Airport Express Transmit Rate

Hello,
My Airport Extreme (802.11n) has a very high transmit rate of about 128.
I recently got a new Airport Express and to my dissappointment, the transmit rate was only about 39.
I know the Airport Extreme is more powerful, but my old Airport Express (802.11g) also had a transmit rate of around 27-39. Why is my new 'n' Airport Express slow?
Thanks!

The bandwidth of both 802.11n AirPort are identical. The actual throughput or data rate (what I believe you are calling transmit rate) is the bandwidth minus RF wave propagation losses and affects of Wi-Fi interference. Your new 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) may be only providing 39 Mbps due to either of these.
How do you have the AXn configured in your network when you are getting these readings? What utility are you using?

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    Thanks in advance for any help that you can give me. I am not well-schooled in networking so, after doing a lot of research and not being able to get clarity, I figured I would write what I understand and hope that somebody here could point me in the right direction. I have 3 airport stations (a time capsule dual band is the primary and 2 airport expresses) and they are all ethernet wired. All my devices are 802.11n capable and all the base stations are n capable. I have no strictly b/g devices, only n devices. No matter what base station a device is connected to, the speedtest.net rate is about 17mbps (I pay for 18mbps) so that is good. However, the "transmit rate" (and I don't really understand what this does) varies depending on what base station my device hooks into. Whenever I am near the time capsule (primary station), my devices hook in at 5Ghz and I get a transmit rate of about 240 to 300 and a 17mbps download speed. But when I hook into either of the other 2 aiport expresses, it shows that I am hooked into 2.4Ghz and the transmit rate is about 50 to 130, but I still get the 17mbps download speed. I know I can change both expresses to only do 5Ghz. Keep in mind, the speedtest.net test always shows about 17mbps download speed no matter what base station my device connects to. I am not sure I understand what the transmit rate indicates. I want to make my network the fastest it can be no matter what base station I use.
    So, my question is should I change the other 2 airport extreme base stations to operate as 5Ghz n network only so that I have 5Ghz operating throughout my whole house which will give a higher "transmit rate" and will that make my experience faster even though I already get maximum 17mbps download speed? Also, if you could, please explain to me the difference between ISP download speed and "transmit rate" because I don't really understand the difference...I mean how does download speed affect my experience vs. how does transmit rate affect my experience? Do I really need to have a higher "transmit rate" to increase my speed or is just having 17mbps download speed necessary and the transmit rate doesn't matter?
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    Thanks again for the help.

    Think of it like this.. Change moving data in air to water in pipes. 
    You have a 1/2" pipe coming from the ISP into your house..
    Inside your house you have 5" and 2" pipes.. (this represents the speeds or flow rate if you like, 1/2" is all the ISP gives you.. but your ethernet is a huge pipe.. think of it as infinite for this situation,, and 5" pipe that is 5ghz and 2" pipe is 2.4ghz.. this is just illustration remember it is area not diameter that matters).
    If you transfer files between the computer on the TC to the TC hard disk.. you get all the 5" pipe.. very fast.
    If you copy a file between computer on the TC and device on the express.. you are limited by the 2" pipe.. everything goes at the speed the 2" pipe can manage.
    Now you do something with internet.. 5" pipe can get the same throughput as the 2" pipe because it is only 1/2"
    Pipes btw are still in imperial even if you are in a metric country pretty often.
    But I hope that illustrates the situation..
    If a computer on 5" pipe and computer on 2" pipe are both trying to access internet .. they both still have to share the 1/2" pipe. In a perfect world they both get half your 18mbps if they are accessing it at the same time.. (QoS represent a flow valve that says this pipe should get more flow even if it is smaller so I shut the valve down on 5" to make sure it only gets what the 2" can get.. no more.. to be fair.).
    Same as water in pipes.. the 1/2" pipe can never fill the 5" or even the 2" pipe.. the 2" cannot fill the 5" so the fastest would be everything on 5" pipes.. since you are unlikely to be able to afford a 5" pipe from the ISP then you accept everything is going to go slower when internet is involved.
    Jumping out of my illustration..
    Apple made 2.4ghz max out at 150mbps..
    Although some of the later stuff can get better than that,, 217mbps.
    The 5ghz is faster because it is has more bandwidth.. up to 1200mbps in the newest AC .. 450 on Gen3,4 TC and 300 on the older gen1,2
    BUT the range is poor.. so generally better sticking with 2.4ghz for express.. they are not high power devices at all.
    2.4ghz  has better range and penetration.. you are going to be just fine with internet access.. and your setup is actually working really well.. There are some overheads on wireless so you do not quite hit wired speeds.

  • Transmit Rate on my Mac Pro and MBP

    Hi,
    I have a early 09 MBP and an early 08 Mac Pro. I recently upgraded both from SL to ML. Both are running on the same wireless network, set up with anAirport express. I am experiencing really erratic wifi signals on my Mac Pro (it'll drop out w/i a few min. of connecting to a wifi), though my mbp stays on the network just fine.
    I opened up system profiler and wrote down the following numbers
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    Signal/ noise      -66 dBm / -86 dBm          -84 dBm / -85 dBm
    Transmit rate     117                                   26
    MCS Index          14                                   9
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    Please help. I have been having major difficulties with my Airport Express. It used to work fine but for the last year or so it continually disconnects, skips and ultimately drops out and itunes gives me this message "An unknown error (-15006) occurred while connecting to the AirPlay device “AirPort Express”. I keep resetting, unplugging, restarting Itunes, or my computer. It works for a couple of hours and then I get the message again. It's making me nuts and was a bummer at last week's party when we had no music, yet again. I have looked up the support discussions, but there is no answer as to how I can fix it. I am currently using Mt Lion OS. Does this have anything to do with it? Checked for software updates, but nada.
    Any suggestions.

    It may be possible the where you have the AX located may just be in a spot where it does not get a good signal even it is only 8 feet away.
    I suggest that you download and install iStumbler. You will use it to determine the signal quality by making Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) measurements. This will be easiest if your Mac is a laptop ... or you can borrow one. When taking the measurements, you only want your "main" AirPort running as this is what we want to measure at the location of the AX.
    SNR (in dB) = Signal (in dBm) - Noise (in dBm)
    You can easily find the Signal and Noise value using System Profiler on your Mac laptop.
    ref: Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar > About This Mac > More Info... > Contents > Network > AirPort > Interfaces > en1 > Current Network Information > Find your wireless network > Signal / Noise
    While your still in the System Profiler, note the value for Transmit Rate.
    These values should be negative numbers. For example, mine currently read: -67 dBm / -95 dBm, with a transmit rate of 27 (Mbps). Plugging in these numbers yield: SNR = -67 - (-95) = 28. My Mac Mini is about four rooms away from my AEBS with about five walls between them. As you can see, the signal is still quite useable ... but the bandwidth is minimal, especially for streaming.
    SNR Guideline
    40dB+ SNR = Excellent signal
    25dB to 40dB SNR = Very good signal
    15dB to 25dB SNR = Low signal
    10dB to 15dB SNR = Very low signal
    5dB to 10dB SNR = No signal
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