Airport Extreme 802.11g with Airport Express 802.11n Aiport Express

I have An Airport Extreme Base Station 11g and an airport express 11g and I needed to buy another Airport Express but this one is 11n and my Airport Utility does not see it. Are these new Airport Express backward compatible? The reason is the kids X-box needs the ethernet jack that the color printer uses.
Can anyone help?
Thanks!

Thank you!
I followed your advice but so far I have been able to make some progress. I went out and bought the Airport Extreme 802.11n as I needed a router too so I like the features on the new one. So I think I have made a complex situation worse, LOL.
So far, the new airport utility can only see the new & old Airport Extreme but cant see the Express-g or express-n airports as they continue to blink amber.
What do I am I doing wrong?
thx

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Message was edited by: macman60

So you agree to the lose of the Airport Express removal has caused me to lose enough of a signal to make the Internet...
Sorry but I'm not sure what this long run-on sentence is trying to say.
You asked if the network could be wirelessly extended and that is what I replied to.

Extend Airport Extreme 802.11g with Airport Express 802.11n

I bought a new AE 802.11n and I want to extend my network from my old Airport Extreme 802.11g. I can't figure out how to do this.

Unfortunately, the newer "n" AirPorts and older "g" AirPorts are not compatible if you are trying to configure the AirPort Express to "extend a wireless network" using wireless only.
The "extend a wireless network" function and feature is only found on newer "n" AirPorts.
If you can connect the AirPort Express to the older AirPort Extreme using a permanent wired Ethernet connection, it is possible to configure the Express to provide more wireless coverage that way.
Using an older, very difficult setup called WDS, it might be possible to configure the Express using wireless only, but the end result would be a network that provides only half the speed of your older "g" AirPort Extreme, so this is definitely not recommended due to the severe performance drop that will occur on the network.

I would like to replace my old AE 802.11g with new version 802./11n - How do I connect

I have just bought a new Airport Express (802.11n wi-fi) and would like to use it as the base station in place of the older version (802.11g).
The old one to be used in another room connecting to my sound sytem as an extention to the new one.
Both of these AEs utilise different Aiport Utility (5.6 against 6.1).
Can anyone please give me some detailed explanations of how I can set-up these devices, if indeed they are possible.
Alan

Sorry, just to make sure: Do you want the older 802.11g Express just for iTunes streaming or (in addition) to extend the wireless range of the newer 802.11n Express? If it is the latter, you may want to reconsider doing so as the only way to extend with "mixed" base stations is with a Wireless Distribution System (WDS).
A WDS has two major disadvantages: 1) It can only operate in the 802.11g radio mode, basically negating the advantage of your 802.11n Express, and 2) For every base station added to the WDS, the overall bandwidth is cut in half. So starting with 54 Mbps (for 802.11g), your extended wireless network will be running around 25-27 Mbps.

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Just bought the new Airport Extreme (802.11ac) last night. BY FAR the easiest wireless setup I have ever done (< 5 minutes). Hats off to the Apple developers on this one - they crushed it! One of the things that makes this device so easy to setup though is the iPad/iPhone Airport Utility app. I used the iPad version.
My concern - When I startup this app it goes straight to the main config screen. Just tap on the Airport Extreme image, then tap Edit and I'm into my wireless settings (id's, passwords, etc.). And that's my concern. It didn't ask me for any kind of password to get into the utility, or the settings. What's to stop someone else from using my iPad to get into the wireless settings, or from someone else installing the app on their iPad and getting into my wireless settings.
It feels like this is a huge security hole. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance - MarkInColo

Is there a way to lock down the app on my iPad so that the settings can't be accessed unless I authorize it?
No
Only way I can think of is uninstall the app, and install it again only when I need it. Isn't there a better way?
If it were me, I would not install or use AirPort Utility for the iPad, iPhone etc. Use only AirPort Utility on your Mac, and do not enable the option to have KeyChain Access remember the password.
Then, anyone who wants to access the settings in AirPort Utility on the Mac will have to enter the Base Station password to be able to make any changes in AirPort Utility.

Hi I am having problems with my old airport extreme base station. It is a 802.11g with airport utility version 5.5.3.

On a regular basis connection is lost by al of the apple products connected to it even though signal strength is still showing to be good and its green light is still on. The only way to resolve seems to disconnect it from the power and then reconnect. All the apple products connected to it are more up to date than the bsae stationis this the problem?

All the apple products connected to it are more up to date than the bsae stationis this the problem?
I think it may have more to do with the older AirPort Base Station failing than it has to do with the fact that you have newer Apple products.
One option is to perform a "factory default" reset on the Extreme, and then, reconfigure as required for your networking needs. If after this type of reset, the Extreme still acts up as you described, it may be faulty or about to fail.

Discovery issues with airport extreme and issues with airport utility

I lost about 3 hours with connection issues while trying to add a second airport express. The airport Utility couldn't find any of the units anymore. After aging a couple of years and checking lots of forums (many suffered the same problems) I found this link
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1406#
Which seemed to help me reset the units and find them again. Though I can't be certain if it was just luck, the airport utility and detection and resetting of the express and extreme seemed solved.
I would add that this is an area that should be looked at by apple. It is not the first time that I have problems with the airport utility or the extreme.

Check the cabling to the Base Station - make sure the modem is plugged into the Base Station's ethernet WAN port (ie the port labelled with the "circle of dots" icon).
With the modem cabled to the Base Station - pull power to both for five minutes or so. Then plug the modem into power and wait a minute. Then plug the Base Station into power and wait a minute. Then try internet access again.
If that still doesn't work:
- on the Mac which can successfully connect to the internet when cabled directly to the modem, tell us what settings are found in System Preferences->Network->Show ethernet built in->PPPoE tab, and under the TCP/IP tab.
- from either a PC or the Mac connected to the Base Station, run the Airport Admin Utility, select the name of your base station, click Configure, click on the Internet tab. Tell us what settings are found under that tab.

Using an Older (802.11g) Airport Extreme as bridge with Time Capsule

Several people have inquired about the possibility of having older (802.11g) computers and devices connected through their Time Capsules without disturbing the 802.11n capabilities of their newer equipment.
The latest version of Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility --
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPort_Networks10.5-Windows.pdf -- explains (pp. 48-49) that one can configure a dual-band (2.4 GHz & 5 GHz) network of this type by setting up the "second device [i.e., the older Airport Extreme] as a bridge." What is lacking is a clear (at least to me) way of configuring the 2.4 GHz Extreme as such a bridge, although the text states that one need only follow instructions "earlier in this chapter" (which begins at p. 14). When I try to do this, the AirPort Extreme shows up as a separate network.
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The MAC support people walked me through a solution to my question about using an older (802.11g) AirPort Extreme and a Time Capsule to form a dual network. The solution turns out to be pretty easy but I am posting it in case anyone else has a similar problem.
Here's what was involved:
N-capable equipment: MacBook Pro, IMac, Time Capsule.
B/G-capable equipment: AirPort Extreme (flying saucer 802.11g); Mac G4; older (802.11g) AirPort Express supporting a network printer; IBM ThinkPad running Windows XP (w/service pack 2).
Step 1: Using AirPort Utility (manual setup), I set the Time Capsule to run at 5 GHz (click on "Wireless" then "Radio Mode". Under the same "Wireless" tab, I assigned a 13-digit WPA2 password to this network (more about this latter). If you opt to use the 5GHz frequency, you have the choice of WPA2 or nothing. After saving your settings, exit out of the AirPort Utility; you are done with the Time Capsule.
Step 2: Reset the AirPort Extreme to its default settings by depressing the small reset button while the device is plugged in.
Step 3: I reopened AirPort Utility, accessed the Extreme and clicked manual setup. (You will loose your connection to the Time Capsule at this point, but this is okay.) At the top of the screen that opens in response to clicking "manual setup," click "internet" and set "connection sharing" to "Off (Bridge Mode)" Next click "AirPort" at the very top of the screen: under "Base Station" I named the Extreme as "G network" and set up a network password. Under "Wireless" I next set up a WEP 40 bit password which was identical to the WPA2 password I used for the Time Capsule. Using a WEP password was necessary, because some of the older computers were not WPA2 compatible. I kept the passwords identical simply as a matter of convenience.
Step 4: Connect the AirPort Extreme to the Time Capsule using an Ethernet cable between the WAN port of the Extreme, and one of the three LAN ports on the Time Capsule. There is a small, green LED recessed in the LAN port socket; if it lights up, you are in business.
Step 5: Using a pin, I reset the 802.11g AirPort Express to its default settings, opened AirPort Utility (no need for manual setup for this), named the Express "Printer" and added it to the G network in a conventional manner by following the setup prompts. (If anyone needs help with this, let me know). Exit out of AirPort Utility and reopen it to refresh; all wireless devices (3 in my case) should be visible and lighted green.
Step 6: I set up the MacBook Pro and the IMac to join the 5 GHz Time Capsule network, and everything else to run on the G network. At this point, everything appears to be working. I can, for example, print a document from my MacBook Pro (N-network) to the network printer which on the G-network. (Because the older computers belong to my daughters, I'll never know if file sharing across the networks is a possibility.)
I take no credit for any of this; it was all accomplished through the efforts of very patient MAC support people.
Carl

Replacing an airport express 802.11g with an airport express 802.11n

Hi there,
I'm about to replace my airport express base 802.11g with a new airport express base 802.11n.
Is it difficult? Is there a guided procedure? Is there something that I should ABSOLUTELY NOT do (or ABSOLUTELY DO) before, during and/or after the replacement?
My home network is made up by MB 13'', MBP 15'' (both with Intel processor and Leopard) and a Time Machine 802.11n 500Gb.
Thank you in advance.

Federico Platania wrote:
Hi there,
I'm about to replace my airport express base 802.11g with a new airport express base 802.11n.
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usually not. see the setup guide

New Airport Extreme not working with my Quad Macpro

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My Linksys 902.11b router finally died and our household is now completely Mac-based (all with Airport Extreme cards), so I decided to take the plunge and get an Airport Extreme.
2 of the machines on my home's network are doing fine with the router and are getting good speeds - iMac Dual 2.4 (10.5.1) - Both the wired and wireless connections are solid with this machine / Macbook Dual 2.0 (10.5.1) - Both the wired and wireless connections are solid with this machine as well.
I have a Macpro Quad 2.66 machine running 10.4.11. I cannot upgrade to 10.5 yet on this machine since it's being used in my recording studio business and there are known issues with some of my apps and 10.5 at the moment.
The Quad can see the network and has seemingly strong signal from the Airport Extreme BS, but DHCP reception is inconsistent (the machine often eds up using a self-assigned IP for some reason) and IP connectivity in general is inconsistent, even when an appropriate static LAN IP is manually setup. I can often get to a few webpages while using a manually config'd IP, but only with very slow DL speeds and then the connection quickly disappears and drops out entirely.
The AExtreme is setup like this: DSL Modem-->Airport Extreme (config'd with a static IP from my ISP) -->DHCP broadcast dummy IP's to my network. Currently I've not setup any security since I'm in the process of troubleshooting and I don't want to further complicate the situation. Radio-mode on the AExtreme is set to 802.11n (b/g compatible)/Channel 1. I've tried numerous config setups on the AExtreme, but none have helped the situation.
I've also disabled IPv6 on all clients per some reading on the forums of possible issues.
Anyone know what the problem might be? Is it perhaps an issue because the Macpro's using 10.4.11?
FYI, I've also also got an extra Airport Express around that's not being used that could be used as a repeater/wired connection downstairs if broadcast strength is the issue, which seems somewhat unlikely to me. I'm not sure how to config the AExpress to work in this capacity though, so if anyone could point me to a tutorial I'd appreciate it very much.
Thanks in advance.
Lee

I just did some more testing using an app mentioned here on the forums, iStumbler. The app offered these details:
- Signal Strength is between 45%-56%
- Noise is between 24%-41%
- Freq = 2412
- No websites load despite it's seeing the router and saying we've joined it.
I also did a screen capture of the iStumbler's screen in case that's helpful. There were several bits of info I wasn't sure about.
Here's the screen grab: http://www.pbase.com/infiniteposse/image/91793322/original
Thanks again...

Adding new airport extreme to an existing airport express network...

i currently have a home airport network comprising two airport express units; one attached to the cable modem in the bedroom and the other downstairs in my study (extending the existing network and feeding a shared USB printer and airtunes speakers). i've recently bought an airport extreme, to improve network performance. i also plan to add a NAS in the next week or so.
ideally i'd like to situate the new airport extreme in the study, as i don't want to have to keep the NAS in my bedroom!
my question is this, if i add the new airport extreme to the existing airport network, will i see the benefit of the 802.11n connection, or should the extreme be set up as the primary base station?

... will i see slower transfer speeds (than if it was connected to the extreme) to / from the NAS when accessing it wirelessly from elsewhere in the house?
No. The transfer speed will be limited by the slowest connection, which is almost certainly your wireless connection speed.
If you buy a switch, buy a gigabit switch. Not because a slower one will limit your transfer speed, but because the Extreme is Gigabit and any newer equipment is likely to be as well. The advantage would only be relevant to the wired LAN.
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I have searched for relevant answers but can only find different bits here and there.
My set up is as follows:
I have a Linksys wireless router running a stable wireless network for the other computer users in the house and wish to create an extended, additional network using airport extreme connected to the Linksys by ethernet to create the network and then time capsule close to my Mac Mini on my desktop and airport express at the other end of the house to try and extend the range of the network.
I have been trying for 4 days to set this up but without success. I have tried all of the options mentioned in different posts, using WDS, extending a new network etc. I can get connection between the three devices but monitoring on iStumbler there appears to be little improvement in the strength of the signal, iStumbler also shows the time capsule dropping it's signal totally every 10 or so seconds for a few seconds and then I get a positive signal strength for another ten seconds or so.
Can anyone help, it is driving me insane. I am a recent convert to apple computing and have been hugely impressed with all products until now. The claim that the set up of these wireless products is simple seems to be very exaggerated.
I am happy to provide any relevant system or hardware information.
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I have an AirPort Extreme acting as a wireless base station, connected to a BT router by ethernet.
Then the correct setting for Connection Sharing on the AirPort Extreme would be "Off (Bridge Mode)".
If I set Connection Sharing to "Share a public IP address", I'm told that: "The DCHP range you have entered conflicts with the WAN IP address of your Apple Wi-Fi base station"
Exactly. You have two routers....The BT device and the AirPort Extreme in series with both of them trying to act as the "main" router when you configure the AirPort this way. That won't work.
Only one can be the main router, and it must be the BT device in your setup. So, the AirPort Extreme....and any other AirPorts on your network must be setup to work in Bridge Mode to allow the network to operate correctly.

I am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express. I had no problem setting it up and got green lights but now I cannot get on either because it says it is a self assigned IP?

I am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express. I had no problem setting it up and got green lights but now I cannot get on either because it says it is a self assigned IP?

i am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express.
Does this mean that you are connecting the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme using a wired Ethernet connection....or....are you connecting the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme wirelessly?
but now I cannot get on either because it is a self assigned IP?
I suggest that you first concentrate on getting the AirPort Extreme working correctly. Power off the modem and both the Extreme and Express, wait a few minutes, then power up the modem and let it run a few minutes. Then, power up the AirPort Extreme and check the network for proper operation. Leave the AirPort Express off for now. Report on your results.
We need to know what operating system you are using on your Mac or PC in order to provide more troubleshooting help.
If you have a Mac and do not know what operating system you are using, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac. Post back with the OS X version number that you see there.

AirPort Extreme Base Station with Modem not recognized by airport utililty,

My Apple M8799LL/A AirPort Extreme Base Station with Modem and Antenna Port is no longer recognized by the airport setup utility, nor will it allow internet connection. Has worked fine until last weekend when I did a full disk utility on all of my drives. Now I get a message, none of your trusted networks are available would I like to join (my network name)? Airport looks fine, can connect locally, lights up as usual.
How can I make it trusted again and get dial up internet to work again?

resetting has worked for months with no return of the problem.

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Some vpn software allows you to set gateway to use local net instead of remote gateway or access to other webistes or local lan.
Read up the issue.
http://stevejenkins.com/blog/2010/01/using-the-local-default-gateway-with-a-wind ows-vpn-connection/
Cisco vpn client..
https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/239113
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