AirPort Extreme (802.11n) For non Core Duo Computer

I have two older macs:
IMac G5 20 1.8GHz[1.5GB -160 GB]
IBook G4 12 1.07GHz [1GB - 30GB]
and currently using an AEBS
ANY CHANCE FOR ME TO USE THIS NEW
AirPort Extreme (802.11n) ???
THANKS
RG
IMac G5 20 1.8GHz[1.5GB -160 GB] AX - AEBS ::IBook G4 12 1.07GHz [1GB - 30GB] AX :: Ipod 60 GB Mac OS X (10.4.1)

802.11n refers to a speedy wireless connection. When
you connect with a wire, you're not using 802.11 at
all. You're using Ethernet, and your Core Duo mac
will connect to the Airport Extreme at 100Mbs (a
little faster than the top speed of 802.11n). Then
The top speed of 802.11n is considerably faster than 100Mbps. In narrow band mode, the Airport Extreme cards are connecting to AE Base Stations (AEBS) at 130Mbs. In wide band mode, 270Mbs. In theory, that makes connecting to the new AEBS device wirelessly faster than via the wired ethernet. It's a design decision that just doesn't make sense in my opinion.

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Apple does not officially support Time Machine backups for this type of setup, but you could store regular files this way.

AirPort Extreme 802.11n for older Macs?

Are there any plans for Apple to release some sort of upgrade for older Macs so that we can use 802.11n wireless networking?
I have a Power Mac G5 (2.5GHz DP) and a MacBook Pro 17" Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo), so the hardware in my Macs doesn't handle the 802.11n specification. (Please note that I'm not talking about the software enabler. That's not going to work on older hardware.)
Are there plans for new AE cards that can be swapped into the G5s or an ExpressCard 34 card for the laptop?
(And why oh why does the UK government not allow wide channel? UK consumers are stuck with only a 2.5x speed increase, whereas US consumers get the full 5x speed increase.)
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802.11n refers to a speedy wireless connection. When
you connect with a wire, you're not using 802.11 at
all. You're using Ethernet, and your Core Duo mac
will connect to the Airport Extreme at 100Mbs (a
little faster than the top speed of 802.11n). Then
The top speed of 802.11n is considerably faster than 100Mbps. In narrow band mode, the Airport Extreme cards are connecting to AE Base Stations (AEBS) at 130Mbs. In wide band mode, 270Mbs. In theory, that makes connecting to the new AEBS device wirelessly faster than via the wired ethernet. It's a design decision that just doesn't make sense in my opinion.

Airport Extreme 802.11n Speed

Hello Everyone,
I am planing to buy an Airport Extreme 802.11n for my iMac Core Duo at home, I am trying to find out if this upgrade will benefit the speed of wireless connection, as I am using actiontech DSL modem which was provided by the ISP. I have to reset the current DSL Modem every other day to keep the consistant speed. Please enlighten me with your wisdoms.
ps/ How do I ask (contact) apple support with email?. Plz help
Thank you
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As far as resetting your modem, that is an issue with the DSL modem and your ISP. The router may help only if you have your computer directly connected to the modem, as it will prevent you from losing your connection to your isp when your Mac goes to sleep. As the router is an "always on " device it should keep the connection unless your ISP has its network set up to time out your IP address regardless of your connection status.
Your Base Station will have no effect on your internet speed because the minimum connect speed for most routers is much faster than even the fastest internet speed ( this axiom may soon be untrue with fiber getting so fast, but for now you router will not be the weak link in the chain.)
What a faster router will do is increase the speed within your network (moving files accross your local network), adding a layer of secuirty between you and the outside world (which is better than most software firewalls if you are connecting your Mac directly to your modem).
The new airport extreme (80211n) also has the added bouns of letting you network USB drives (great for backup and keeping large files off of your hard drive) and sharing USB printers.
I just set up mine and it works great. The automatic setup is VERY easy to use and did a good job setting up my network. And there are plenty of manual settings for advanced users ( I am tweaking some of my security settings now.)
Hope this helps.

How do I get a download since I don't have my start up disc for AirPort Extreme 802.11n

How do I download to start using AirPort Extreme 802.11n. I can't find my start up disc. and don't see any downloads on Apples website. Then how do I hook it up to work with my Westell modem?

Please download and install AirPort Utility 5.6.1 for Windows. The Windows Firewall and or Microsoft Security Essentials will tend to block the connection from your PC to the AirPort Extreme, so you may need to adjust the firewall settings on the PC or check the Essentials application if connection difficulties occur.
AirPort Utility 5.6.1 for Windows - Apple Support
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Help. I lost my installation CD for my for my new AirPort Extreme 802.11n

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Hello,
I have a 2nd Gen Touch with the latest updated software. I use Airport to connect to the internet on my new iMac 24". Will the AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler software now offered in the Apple store($1.99) for Mac improve communications between the Touch and my iMac?
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Nope. Your touch is still limited to b/g mode wireless. In fact, if you have an all n network, your touch won't even know that it exists.
Most of your Mac to iPod communication is via the USB cable unless you are using Remote or other applications that can move files on and off.
BTW, that software is to enable early intel Macs to use N wireless. If your Mac is relatively new, you won't need it.
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WMM for AirPort Extreme (802.11n) - UMA T-Mobile not working...

Is there any chance we'll see WMM (WiFi Multi-Media) in a firmware upgrade anytime soon? I noticed that according to the WiFi Alliance's website, when the AirPort Extreme was certified, it supported WMM!
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/wbcscertified_products.php?search=1&advanced=1&lang=en&filter_company_id=&filter_cat egory_id=&filter_subcategory=&filter_cid=&date_from=&date_to=&x=30&y=18&selectedcertifications%5B%5D=33
As an early adopter, I just got a BlackBerry 8320 from T-Mobile, which does UMA, so you can use the phone over WiFi. Works awesome with wireless routers that do WMM, basically doesn't work with my AirPort Extreme... As you might imagine, this is quite frustrating, as I have particular desire to have two APs, for basically no reason!
--Donald

I shot this across... let's see if anything comes of it:
~*~
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: a rather pressing Airport Extreme (802.11n) issue
i'm not sure if the person receiving this email will have any power (or will
care enough) to do anything about sorting this problem out, but hey...
better to try and fail than not trying at all, right?
anyway... here goes:
i am a die-hard apple user- heck, even a long-time stockholder- and recently
bought an airport extreme (802.11n) router for my house. it worked
flawlessly and i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread... well,
until i picked up a UMA phone from T-Mobile.
UMA is a service that routes your calls over WiFi. for some reason the UMA
service worked everywhere except over my Airport Extreme base station. as a
surprise, it even worked over my neighbour's older Airport Extreme (802.11g)
connection.
i swapped base stations (ie, brought his base station to my house, connected
it to my network) and it worked. so, it is an issue that is clearly
isolated to the new 802.11n base stations.
thinking it was only me with this issue, i dug around the internet and found
this discussion:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1152014&tstart=15
(if you want more, just google the keywords 'airport extreme UMA')
obviously there's no resolution and people are getting quite peeved that a
state-of-the-art base station can't do something than an older base station
can clearly do. so, can someone please look into this?
thanks!
pramit
~*~

Why can't I install software for AirPort Extreme 802.11n while running Mountain Lion OSX?

Why can't I install software for AirPort Extreme 802.11n while running Mountain Lion OSX? The installation CD simply says that the software can't be installed while running this OSX.

Mountain Lion already has the most recent, updated version of AirPort Utility installed on your Mac. The version on your CD is out of date, so you can trash the CD.
Look in Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility.

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I just bought one of the new Airport Extreme 802.11n base stations today and haven't even had time to take it out of the shrinkwrap yet. Based on what I'm reading in this forum...I'm torn about what to do. Should I take it back unopened, or should I hang onto it, pray for no problems, and/or hope for fixes?
I had bought it primarily for the disk/print sharing features, but also to potentially take advantage of the draft-n speeds in the future. Since everything I own right now is g-only (Core Duo MacBook Pro, Airport Express hooked to my home theater, PSP, PC laptop from work), I'd be using the new AEBS only for 802.11g in the short term. However, I'd assume that ExpressCard/34 802.11n cards will come out at some point, enabling me to move to a mixed g/n network in the future.
The critical thing for me is a decent assurance that the router would work well in a g-only configuration since a friend is waiting to buy my old router. Is anyone trying to use the new AEBS in this way? If so, does it perform well, or are you seeing the same problems that the 802.11n users are seeing?

Ask yourself a question.
How fast is your internet connection?
If it is is 1-2-8 mb speed then you dont need 'n'.
If you transfer personal info between computers fast speeds allowed up to 54 will save you time.
'n' is to provide greater range like Mimo and increased transfer speeds.
But do you really need it?
No,if you dont transfer huge data,
Yes, if you want to transfer (stream video from your iTV from Mac if you spend most of your day in front of TV.
There is no substitute for a good reliable connection.
In my real world experience because I only have a 8mb ADSL connection 'g' is not the strongest and most reliable scenario to use. During the last airport update my last 3 years of uninterrupted airport connections mixed PC and Macs on WDS set up went belly up and I had posted my thoughts as well with the relevant results and now set up is fine. But at a price.
Downgraded to all on 'b' and now use my Draytek Vigor 2800VG and have AEBS put away in storage.
My signal and range is out of this world. When I decide that I have enough free time to sit in front of a TV and download movies and watch them when I have nothing better to do such as travel the world etc. etc., that is the time I will go for speed...or will I.
Dont get bamboozled by the hype. If you really want one wait for a year then decide. Let others solve the teething problems as is there want.

AirPort Extreme 802.11n macbook pro

I have just set up time capsule and it works perfectly (painless process setting this up!) One query i have is re: AirPort Extreme 802.11n.
I have a macbook pro 2.16GHz core duo, and according to network utility i have Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g). I have attempted to update this but I get the message that my computer:
Your computer does not meet the hardware requirements for this update.
Can i update or not? I have not restarted my comp since installing time capsule, would that maybe make a difference?

Sorry but "Core Duo" Macs do not have the 802.11n hardware.
Only "Core 2 Duo" Macs have the appropriate hardware.

AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler Problems

I just bought the AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler for my 2 GHz MacBook with and Intel Core 2 Duo processor recently and when I try to install it, it tells me, "Your computer does not meet the hardware requirements for this update." I have installed all of the software updates that are available and it is still not working. Anyone have any ideas?!

There isn't much you can do... There are ways of taking apart your macbook and replacing the Airport extreme card inside but it probably isn't worth it. I guess thats about it.
Just next time, make sure you check what hardware you have before buying.

Airport Extreme 802.11n Enabler wont install

hi,
i just bought the Airport Extreme 802.11n Enabler for my MacBook Intel Core Duo. when i opened the disk image and tried to install, i got an alert saying my computer does not meet the hardware requirements - even though it is a MacBook Intel Core Duo.
i followed all instructions on the Apple Store page before purchasing, including checking my Network Utility to verify whether i needed the software. currently i only have the 802.11 a/b/g adapter. see:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/canadastore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=B4 8E8262&nplm=D4141ZM%2FA
any suggestions? my MacBook is a week 25 model.
thanks,
gimiwan

Your computer needs to be a Core 2 Duo-based Mac for the enabler to install, as the necessary hardware isn't present on an older processor or a 1.83GHz 17-inch iMac. If your computer supports the enabler, install this software and try installing the enabler again.
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How to install AirPort Extreme 802.11n Enabler?

I just bought the Airport Extreme and I have the CD that came with it loaded. I'm installing the package that is on the CD and it reads that the following items are available for installation and one of them is the Airport Extreme 802.11n Enabler. I "continue" and it only allows me to do a basic upgrade. How do I know that the Enabler was correctly installed and I can now access using 802.11n?
I have a MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2.33Ghz

Steve, fire up your Network Utility. You can find it in your Utilities folder. From the row of tabs across the top of the window select "Info" - the first option on the left. Nxt select the "network interface for information". You'll be wanting "(en1)". At the bottom of the info you'll see an entry for "Model Wireless Network Adapter". In parenthesis under this title will be "802.11" and some letters. If you see a letter "n" then it means the enabler did its thang!
To actually select how your computer will communicate with that little white box with the green light on the front (um...it is green, isn't it?) then fire up your Airport Utility. Select "Manual" setup. Make sure you have the Airport icon highlighted at the top of the window then select the "Wireless" tab. The "Radio Mode" entry is where you do your bit to select "g", "n" or whatever in 2.4GHz or 5GHz.
I find it best to do one thing at a time. Slower but at least I can undo the mess easily.
See also http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1126076

Airport Snow vs. Airport Extreme 802.11n

I've been using my Airport Snow for a year or two now and it's been performing very well. I connected it directly to my Comcast cable modem so it distributes IPs to my local network.
I decided to buy the new Airport Extreme because I now have a new white MacBook Core 2 Duo which has been upgraded for 802.11n.
I replaced my Airport Snow with the Airport Extreme 802.11n and put the Airport Snow aside and powered off.
All of my network works just fine and Internet access is in full operation and functional.
However, the Internet performance is abysmal using this new Airport Extreme. My wife who uses an original MacBook Core Duo wirelessly has noticed a dramatic decrease in web pages starting to load and final loading seems agonizingly slow with a long delay right at the end. On my computer I've noticed the same performance issue and it's connected to my LAN and not wirelessly.
Having used the Airport Snow for maybe two years both my wife and I have a strong feel for performance expectations and with the transition from Airport Snow to Airport Extreme 802.11n there's is a noticeable and disappointing performance degrade.
I've checked everything wrt to the Airport Extreme 802.11n configuration and as far as I can tell I've done everything correctly, plus every thing is functional as it should be.
One other thing to mention while I'm at it. The new Airport Extreme has two additional LAN ports. One would think that plugging any one of my LAN ethernet lines connect to my PM G5 into one of these would provide a like performance or even better performance vs. being plugged into an ethernet switch. BUT alas, this is not so - in fact the performance is quite a bit worse.
All of this has me quite worried thinking that I've bought into an inferior wireless solution compared to my Airport Snow device.
Have others experience anything similar to what I've described here ?
Thanks for any feedback or insights as to what may be causing this anomaly.

BTW - I really like the shared USB drive feature offered by the new Airport Extreme 802.11n. Having a device such as this allows my wife and I to share a storage space very easily with out portable MacBooks around the house.

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