Airport Extreme 802.11n (with gigabit ports) locks up when using 802.11g

About a minute after I connect my 802.11g IBM X60 laptop to the wireless network, the AirPort Extreme with 7.2.1 firmware locks up. The light stays green, but all machines (including an 802.11n MacBook) loose wireless connectivity. It's extremely annoying and makes the base station unusable. I have to physically disconnect it from the wall and plug it back in for it to work again.
Has anyone found a fix for this?
It works fine when a single 802.11n Macbook is connected.

Changing it to 5Mhz didn't help. I unplugged my external HD from the router. Want to try to figure out what made it start locking up because it didn't do it when I got it two weeks ago, just started yesterday.
But I might be going to a mall where an apple store is, might just have them swap it out. It's hard to prove this type of thing, unless it's a known problem and they take your word for it.

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So you agree to the lose of the Airport Express removal has caused me to lose enough of a signal to make the Internet...
Sorry but I'm not sure what this long run-on sentence is trying to say.
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Hello!
I own a macbook, one windows xp pc, and two windows vista notebooks. I bought a airport extreme base station. I set it up with my macbook at first and I do a print and it works. I do the same with the others. I install the printers drives to all notebooks. Then tried to print and only one of them worked. They all have bonjour download for windows. So i restarted all the pc's and mac and tried to print and never prints. On the pc's i get a error message. On the mac i get an its busy and never prints. All of them connect to the internet, but no printing. I have the printer connected to the base station. I did two prints and then I couldnt print after that. Internet works. Please i need some help to fix this. Thanks in advance

Hi
Maybe you already have fixed your printing problem. I'm no expert but I sometimes have had printing problems and I feel for you. However, first of all. What sort of printer do you have? It sounds to me that one of the pc printing documents got stuck somewhere on its way to the printer and now it is taking up space on the network (figuratively speaking ofcourse). I can recall something happening to my network/printer some years ago. Unfortunately I can not remember what I did to fix the problem but if I were you I would do the following: First I would disconnect the pc from the network and then try to reset the printer clearing its print memory. Then I would try to get the mac to print again. If succesfull I would take the mac off the network and connect one of the pc's and get that to print. If I succeded I would repeat the procedure with the other pc's. If I wasn't succesfull I would clear the memory again and then try with one of the other pc's. But I would only try one computer at the time to try to isolate the problem. Maybe you have already tried this and since pc's are a mystery to me I dont't know how to help you in that department. However using bonjour on the pc's I would not expect to have problems (though I use Windowc XP print menu on my vertual pc - works fine).
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When connecting wired my router straight from my internet provider I get speeds in the 90mps range. Now when connecting wired through my airport extreme I get speeds near 10mps. Also when using wireless for my ipad3 I recieve download speeds of .63mps.

When connecting, wired, to my router from my ISP I get speeds in the 90mbps range. Then when connecting, wired, to my Airport Extreme I get speeds of 10mbps. Wirelessly I get download speeds of 6mbps on my laptops and only 1mbs with my Ipad3. I am making sure only one device is sharing the network to make sure to get accurate results. Why are things so slow?

Hi Ty,
First, check with you ISP to see what speed they've promised. In my case, they indicated that the speed should be greater than 50 Mbps. If they say that it should be significantly higher than what your getting, then try the following if you're using Airport Utility v.6.:
1. Open the Airport Utility (Desktop: Command+Shift+U to open Utility Folder, select Airport Utility)
2. Click on the visual representation of the Airport Extreme and then select "Edit" (bottom right corner)
3. When the window opens (to a tab "Base Station"), click on the "Wireless" tab,
-it should have the following options: Network Mode, Wireless Network Name, Wireless Security, Wireless Password, Verify Password, a checkbox with "Enable Guest Network", and a button "Wireless Options..."]
4. Select "Wireless Options", which should open another window with the following options:
5Ghz network name, Country, a checkbox with "Create hidden Network", Radio Mode, 2.4 GHz Channel, and 5 GHz Channel [both of which can stay on "Automatic"]
5. Clicking on "Radio Mode" will bring up a list in which the las option should read:
802.11n only (5Ghz) - 802.11n only (2.4 GHz)
Once you click "Save", your router will blink amber for a little while and then it should work.
Hope this helps. Let me know if it does/doesn't.
DFLovesBikes
p.s. I apologize if the directions were excessively explicit, but I was thinking about my 73 year-old mother trying to follow them, so I erred on the side of making them more understandable. Good luck.

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I had the same problem and an apple apple care tech walked me through it yeterday.
Call them, they were great.
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I don't see any option in the Airport Admin Utility for the old Express for creating a WDS network, only to participate in one...?
That is the option you want to choose.
You could use the newer AirPort Utility to configure the older AX.
Sorry, forgot to ask something else: The 802.11n Express is able to join the WLAN created by the 802.11b/g Express as a client, but not extend it, is that what you're saying?
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Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
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Click the Add button and enter the MAC address of the base stations you want to connect to this base station. If there is a base station listed that you’d like to remove from the list, select the base station and click the Delete (–) button.
Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS. By default, the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox is selected. If you deselect the checkbox, and later want to change the settings on the base station, you must connect to the base station’s LAN port with an Ethernet cable. You will not be able to connect to the base station wirelessly.
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Click the AirPort button, and then click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
Enter the MAC address of the main base station in the WDS Main field. The MAC address is also referred to as the AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom of the base station.
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what is the latest update for Airport Express 802.11n with Mac OSX 10.6.8?

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Will the presence of the Airport Express units (which are 802.11g) drag the whole network into .11g speeds? I ask this because of this note on the Airport Extreme page:
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Welcome to the Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to get an update on 802.11n with Cisco expert Fred Niehaus. Fred is a Technical Marketing Engineer for the Wireless Networking Business Unit at Cisco, where he is responsible for developing and marketing enterprise wireless solutions using Cisco Aironet and Airespace wireless LAN products. In addition to his participation in major deployments, Fred has served as technical editor for several Cisco Press books including the "Cisco 802.11 Wireless Networking Reference Guide" and "The Business Case for Enterprise-Class Wireless LANs." Prior to joining Cisco with the acquisition of Aironet, Fred was a support engineer for Telxon Corporation, supporting some of the very first wireless implementations for major corporate customers. Fred has been in the data communications and networking industry for more than 20 years and holds a Radio Amateur (Ham) License "N8CPI."
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So there are two parts of this question, the latter part I cannot address as it is a future question. Cisco does not comment on products that have not been released or on the strategy of next generation products.
That said, Cisco was first to market with an 802.11n Access Point and well (we didn't all go on vacation after we did that)
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As of the time of this writing, a critical mass of 3SS and 4SS compatible clients have yet to be deployed, and the vast majority of WiFi clients that will be deployed over the next 18 months will be 1SS and 2SS clients.
The higher SS clients are likely only show up in some higher end notebooks -- Why? well it is a given that smartphones and tablets are likely to continue to be 1SS and in some rare cases 2SS.
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So Fred are you saying that there is no value in 3SS and 4SS?
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Without the ability to mitigate the impact of interference, 3SS solutions will "downshift" to 2SS of 1SS and lose all the performance benefits anyway IMHO.
I don't want to sound like a commercial, but you really do need Cisco cleanair technology in the AP and Cisco innovations deliver more and will go beyond the simple 3SS aspects of the 802.11n standard.
IMHO it's more about CleanAir, good RF system design, and what we put into the AP with regard to performance "in the environment" and not what is on some spec sheet today.
For more on Cisco CleanAir see the following URL http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns1070/index.html
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Airport Extreme 802.11n (with gigabit ports) locks up when using 802.11g

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