Airport extreme + Airport express WDS Windows only problem

Hi,
I bought an airport extrem to replace my Belkin and redesign my network@home.
The airport extrem give Internet/ethernet linked to a Linux PC, and eyehome. He also gives Internet to a macmini, a powerbook, and a macbookpro.
I had an airport express which gives me airtunes before, I tried to use it for a WDS.
It seems to work fine if I go in the studio near my house with the MBP > I see my network, connect and surf fine.
But, I put it in WDS to extend the network for a (sh#*$€ù£) PC under windows for my son who loves NWN2...
This Pc had a belkin wifi usb adapter which works slightly well before; Here the Belkin utility say that the signal to my network is really strong but he don't want to connect. He gets a local IP 169.xxx.xxx.xxx
If I use the airport utility tool on the pc to connect the airport express : it doesn't see anything ; no network, no airport express.
When I use the MBP with the airport utility tool I can see that the password doesn't have 13 digit likes the one I give but it seems to have 26 characters under the password.
So I think that it convert it in the wep128 key but I don't know how to get it in clear! (he do it again when I try to put the only password). I looked @ my keychain but it only have the clear password which I Know..of course
Do you have suggestions to get this key in clear?
MBP, MM, PWBK & Pc Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Well! I've got it
with the airport utilities > clic to "configure" BUT have look @ the menu and not the visual menu.
In French (sorry) : Borne d'acces > mot de passe equivalent du réseau : select
You will see the password (of course you know it before) BUT also : the hexadecimal code.
I put this hexadecimal number in the pc authentification tool and it works fine : I have my IP, and I could go to the internet with it.

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Message was edited by: Bob Timmons

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