Airport extreme and external WD HDD and time machine help plz!

Hi, i have used the AEB with my WD external hard drive perfectly before, but after i moved to a different country, i tried to hook it up again, it does comes some problems now, and i think its because of the new updates.
first of all, i have 2 external HD which are connected to each other via firewire, 1 tb and 500 gb wd hard drives. i hook it to my AEB and it doesnt show on my desktop anymore! so my time machinese couldnt find the HD, next is, i used airport utility, and it detects only 1 of the HD not both, so i tried to hook the usb to my laptop and it shows 2 HD connected with 1 usb connection, so i wonder whats going on here, need help, desperately needs to back up thanks!
i want the old school way, which is the plug and play usb then it shows on my desktop via AEB, it worked i know, cuz i did it before, somehow, now it doesnt, im sure its the update, but at the same time, i cant downgrade as well, im sure there is some solution for this auto mount via AEB and time machine issue in this new 7.2.3 firmware thanks!

Welcome to the discussions!
All you probably really need to know is that +Apple does not support Time Machine backups to a drive attached to the USB port on the AirPort Extreme+ due to likely corruption issues. The odd thing about this issue is that problems won't necessarily occur immediately as most users who have had difficulties with this approach (including me) find that backups work OK...for a time.
The best advice we could offer is that if you decide to try this anyway, make sure that you have another backup plan in place for your important files.
Time Machine backups will be supported if you use the Time Capsule, or if you use a drive that is directly attached to the computer that supports Time Machine.
Message was edited by: Bob Timmons

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Do you have any other suggestions besides getting an airport extreme? I would rather not have to buy a full blown mac that I have to leave on 24/7 to share the drives. Or do you see any possible pitfalls to this idea? Such as, would time machine forget to use the network drive after a while since it wouldn't always be available to it when away from home?

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Can I use a USB drive with the Airport extreme (not the new one) for Time Machine?

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thanks.

It is not recommended.. Apple says it doesn't work.. for some people it does for others it is unreliable.. do you really want unreliable backups.
See http://pondini.org/TM/Airport.html

Need expert Time Machine help PLZ

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So... after all this...I figured I wasn't so smart after all and I must have things wired incorrectly.
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How do I back up an external HDD AND my macbook to another external HDD using Time Machine?

Hi,
My little old Macbook is pretty slow and clunky at the moment and I have decided to transfer my iphoto library to an external HDD named 'photos'.
I've check, it's all there - present and correct.
I've removed 'iphoto' from my 'pictures' folder on my macbook to trash.
I've tried to back both macbook and photos HDD to time machine but I'm unable to recover the photos HDD.
I have opened TM preferences, selected options and excluded the 'photos' HDD from backups as I was under the impression that the drive shown in the window is the drive used by TM.
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If I understand you correctly you want to back up two drives simultaneously. If that is correct, you will find a guide here: http://pondini.org/TM/32.html

HT4145 Does this article apply to OS X Lion and Airport Utility 6.0? Reason: Airport Utility cannot find my Airport Extreme (4th generation) wirelessly on my Time Capsule configured network even although the firmware in both units is up to date.

Does this article apply to OS X Lion and Airport Utility 6.0?
Reason: Airport Utility cannot find my Airport Extreme (4th generation) wirelessly on my Time Capsule configured network even although the firmware in both units is up to date.

I thought you were trying to Extend the network with an Express as the article mentions you pointed to...
You can't find the Airport Extreme then...
I woudl suggest doing a Factory reset....
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3728
Then you should be able to set it up just as you did when it was new....
Factory default reset (using reset button)
If the AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule isn't accessible from AirPort Utility, the Factory Default reset can be accomplished by using the reset button.
Unplug the AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule from power.
Press and hold the reset button with a pen or pencil, then plug the AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule back in while continuing to hold the button until you see the light (LED) flash rapidly. This should happen after a few seconds.
Release the button. This will factory default reset the AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule.

Airport Extreme worked for 2 days and now wont

3 days ago I wasted $600 on an Airport Extreme, 500Gb external drive, and the family pack of leopard excepting to use time machine with the shared airport disk. I quickly realized that wont work, maybe they'll fix it one day. What really ***** though is that my wireless connection was working perfectly for 2 days and then just died. Last night i boot up my macbook and get the network not found message. I entered my info manually and got it to connect, but it was extremely slow loading my homepage and then the connection simply stopped working. This is happening on both my brand new black macbook with leopard installed, and my fairly new white macbook that is still running tiger. I've reset the airport a few times and still the same results.
Did i get a defective router? I think i can still return it under apple's (supposed) return policy, should i just return it and go back to my reliable linksys g band router?
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Yes, following your advice i opened up the iMac and made sure it was well in place. It deem seem a little loose, but, it was still in the socket. After trying this, it still does not pick up the signal.
Any other ideas?
It just seemed to stop working , all of a sudden, !
I have noticed other people with similar problems,,
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I just backed up my mac to an external hard drive using Time Machine. What would happen if I turn Time Machine off and then plug the external hard drive back into my computer?
What I am ultimately wanting to do is make more room on my computer by backing up all of my files onto the external hard drive and then deleting them off of my computer. However, neededing to be able to retrieve them from the external hard drive later down the road.
From what I have read and am trying to understand, is that I probably shouldn't have used time machine. I need to use the external hard drive like a basic flash drive where I can put things on and get things off without having it automatically update through time machine everytime I connect it to my computer.
Not tech savvy at all and barely understand basics. I need very simple and easy to understand explanations.

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and then deleting them off of my computer.
BIG BIG MISTAKE ..... youre making a linchpin deathtrap for your data trying to shove everything on a single fragile HD.
Dont suffer the tragedy other people make, buy another or 2 more HD, theyre cheap as dust.
The number of people who have experienced terror by having a single external HD backup is enormous. One failure that WILL HAPPEN, and kaput,......all gone!
Dont do it, its all about redundancy, redundancy, redundancy.
follow here:
Methodology to protect your data. Backups vs. Archives. Long-term data protection
Deleting them off your computer is fine....having only ONE copy is extremely BAD.
The Tragedy that will be, the tragedy that never should be
Always presume correctly that your data is priceless and takes a very long time to create and often is irreplaceable. Always presume accurately that hard drives are extremely cheap, and you have no excuse not to have multiple redundant copies of your data copied on hard drives and squirreled away several places, lockboxes, safes, fireboxes, offsite and otherwise.
Hard drives aren't prone to failure…hard drives are guaranteed to fail (the very same is true of SSD). Hard drives dont die when aged, hard drives die at any age, and peak in death when young and slowly increase in risk as they age.
Never practice at any time for any reason the false premise and unreal sense of security in thinking your data is safe on any single external hard drive. This is never the case and has proven to be the single most common horrible tragedy of data loss that exists.
Many 100s of millions of hours of lost work and data are lost each year due to this single common false security. This is an unnatural disaster that can avoid by making all data redundant and then redundant again. If you let a $60 additional redundant hard drive and 3 hours of copying stand between you and years of work, then you've made a fundamental mistake countless 1000s of people each year have come to regret.

Airport Extreme blocking internet on phone and ipad but not imac

I got a new TIme Warner cable modem yesterday and since then my Airport Extreme does not work properly.
Time Warner see it at their end but told me that it blocks the signal from the modem to the computer.
However after much fiddling around with it I managed to get it working again with my computer.
So now I have wireless internet on my computer, but although the router is recognized by my ipad and my phone it won't connect them to the internet.
I restarted all devices multiple times and I even reset the entire network.
What is going on?
Also, I'm using an old Airport Extreme (the round one) that Apple no longer supports, however I also have a newer square version, but my computer doesn't recognize it at all. What gives?

I have had the same issue for the past few weeks and finaly it is resolved. I had the regular modem from Timewarner and it was working perfectly with my AEBS for the past 2 years. No issues at all. Out of nowhere 3 weeks ago my mo AEBS started getting the 169.x.x.x ip address therefore not communicating with the modem. Cutting the story short, I had Timewarner's Tier 1, 2 and 3 involved. 3 different techs and their suppervisors visited my house pointing finger at the Apple and I contaced Apple and got no resolutions either. The AEBS at somepoit would connect to the internet and then stop communicatiog due to invalid ip address. I decided to change my modem to a more advanced modem ARRIS TG852 (Telephony modem with wireless) from TimeWarner. That did not solve the issue either. I also tried the solution Tesserax offered above but unfortunatly it did notwork for me. as of one houre ago I resolved the problem and would like to share it with you.
Standard Timewarner modem:
1. Call Timewarner and have the tech support configure your modem remotely into a Bridge Mode. (yes that simple)
2. Factory reset you AEBS and go through the setup.
ARRIS modems or any other wifi capable modems/routers:
1. Call Timewarner and have the tech support configure your WiFi modem remotely into a Bridge Mode. (yes that simple) Sadly enough non of the techs offered this to me or was even aware that this will resolve the issue. Now they know. LOL
OR
1. Get to your routers setup page. for ARRIS go to http://192.168.100.1
2. Login as admin and use default password "password" to login.
3. go to Firewall tab and disable the firewall (your AEBS will have its own firewall)
4. to to Wireless tab and Disable wireless (uncheck the box)
5. go to LAN tab and under the NAT title which is close to the bottom of the page select "Bridge"
This option will reset your modem. Give it a few minutes for your modem to reestablish connections with its center and come back to life.
Now your Timewarner WiFi modem is turned into a dumb modem (bridge mode) and your AEBS will work like a charm.
6. Factory reset you AEBS and go through the setup.
It only took me 3 weeks to figure this out by trying any possible combination of settings and resetings and reconfiguration you can imagin. I have recreated this issue and resolved it following these steps and it worked for me. I hope it works for anyone else that may be facing the same challenge.
Cheers

Using Airport Extreme- Printers & Hard Drives - Mac and WIndows XP Network

I might be asking a really dumb question now, I have a Mac Pro, a PC my sons use and a laptop my wife uses. The PC and laptop both run XP Pro.
I have my Airport Extreme set up and working well with my BT Home Hub acting as my modem only - that went much easier than I thought.
All I want to do is to set up a network - my Mac (wired) to my Airport Extreme with a Canon Printer and external hard drive. I also want to be able to share files on the PC and Laptop (wireless) with other users as well as the printers. Ideally, i'm looking for a video website that will easily show how to set this up. I appreciate I may need to view several clips to get this sorted. I have tried YouTube without much success.
As I said, this may be a dumb question.
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"File sharing between Mac and PC"
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TS4597 I am using an Airport Extreme as my base station and I want to extend its range using a recently purchased AirPort Express. However neither device is showing up on my AirPort Utility on either my older MacBook Pro or my IPad 4. What do I do?

I am using an older AirPort Extreme as my base station and I want to extend the range by using a recently purchased AirPort Express. When I try to find either device using the AirPort Utilities function on either my new IPad 4 or my older MacBook Pro neither device is detected. However the utility is seeing that we are connected to the Internet which is through the Extreme. What am I doing wrong?

For now, leave the AirPort Express powered off.
Power off the entire network....all devices.....in any order that you want
Wait a few minutes
Power up the modem first, and let it run 2-3 minutes by itself
Power up the AirPort Extreme next, and let it run a full minute
Keep powering up devices one at a time about a minute apart until everything is powered up (leave the Express off for now)
Open AirPort Utility and check to see if the AirPort Extreme is visible.
If it's not, click the AirPort Utility menu at the upper left of the screen, then click About AirPort Utility. Post back with the version number of AirPort Utility that you see there....which should be AirPort Utility 5.6.1.
Post back on your progress.

Every time I try to back up my Macbook Pro with an external hard drive using Time Machine, I receive the error of "the disk does not have enough space". I have a 500GB hard drive and only 120GB Macbook. It worked fine before the latest Maverick's

Every time I try to back up my Macbook Pro with an external hard drive using Time Machine, I receive the error of "the disk does not have enough space". I have a 500GB external hard drive and only 120GB Macbook. It worked fine before the latest Maverick's update. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

My guess would be it has created an entirely new backup of your drive when you upgraded to Mavericks.
See Here: http://pondini.org/TM/1.html
And here: http://pondini.org/TM/9.html
Peruse the whole site. There is a lot of information there.

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