Airport Extreme created an unsecured, third, network

My Airport Extreme is set to create two secured networks, one is 802.11G, the other is N. My iPad and iPods can see the two networks. However, my Macs see a third network that has a 12 character, random name. This network is not secured. When I connect to this network, Airport Utility gets full access to the Airport Extreme.
I also have 5 Airport Expresses on this network. When I connect to this third network, none of the airport expresses are visible in airport utility. Of course, when I connect to the G or N network, airport utility sees the Airport Extreme and the Airport Expresses.
So, what is this third network?

Here's the report system profiler: The two "chipotlenet" networks are mine and so are the "you are b watch" networks, which are the guest networks. I'm now connected to the mysterious third network which gives me access to my Airport Extreme, and the Internet but not to the Airport Expresses that are hanging off of chipotlenet.
Interfaces:
en1:
Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0x8C)
Firmware Version: Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.91.27)
Locale: FCC
Country Code: US
Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165
Wake On Wireless: Supported
Status: Connected
Current Network Information:
05B401032179:
PHY Mode: 802.11g
BSSID: 0:e0:98:e0:fd:16
Channel: 6
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: None
Signal / Noise: -88 dBm / -90 dBm
Transmit Rate: 11
Other Local Wireless Networks:
chipotlenet:
PHY Mode: 802.11n
BSSID: 0:24:36:a7:25:d5
Channel: 11
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WPA2 Personal
Signal / Noise: -54 dBm / -91 dBm
chipotlenet-n:
PHY Mode: 802.11n
BSSID: 0:24:36:a7:25:d6
Channel: 149,1
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WPA2 Personal
Signal / Noise: -63 dBm / -94 dBm
Gabriella4105:
PHY Mode: 802.11g
BSSID: 0:18:3a:99:b:ed
Channel: 6
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WEP
Signal / Noise: -87 dBm / -91 dBm
Trixie:
PHY Mode: 802.11g
BSSID: 0:23:97:5f:ca:25
Channel: 6
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WEP
Signal / Noise: -87 dBm / -92 dBm
You are b watched!:
PHY Mode: 802.11n
BSSID: 6:24:36:a7:25:d6
Channel: 149,1
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: None
Signal / Noise: -64 dBm / -92 dBm
You are b watched!:
PHY Mode: 802.11n
BSSID: 6:24:36:a7:25:d5
Channel: 11
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: None
Signal / Noise: -53 dBm / -92 dBm
belkin54g:
PHY Mode: 802.11g
BSSID: 0:11:50:19:64:d3
Channel: 11
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: None
Signal / Noise: -89 dBm / -92 dBm
bidwellnetworkdirector:
PHY Mode: 802.11g
BSSID: 0:24:b2:1b:e6:48
Channel: 11
Network Type: Infrastructure
Security: WEP
Signal / Noise: -88 dBm / -92 dBm
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