Airport Extreme/Express AirTunes Config

Is it possible to run Airtunes from an Express into my hi-fi where the iTunes library is on an external HDD connected to the Extreme via USB or Ethernet without the Mac running the iTunes application. Does the Mac have to be switched on?

You must have a Mac or Windows computer running iTunes streaming the music to the AirPort Express (AX).

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I am unable to see my Airport Extreme/Express on my MacBook via Airport Utility

I have two issues:
1. I am unable to see my Airport Extreme and my Airport Express via my MacBook Air's Airport Utility when I scan for Base Stations. However, the computer is happily connected to the wireless network of my Extreme (the Express is used to extend range)
2. I am unable to see a HDD that is connected via USB cable to the Airport Extreme.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks

Further info:
Setup
MacBook Air running OS X 10.5.8
AirPort Extreme Base Station
AirPort Express used to extend range
AirPort Utility v5.5.3
The MacBook Air is actually connected to the wireless network provided by the two AirPorts!
Oddly, I see both AirPorts just fine when using my older PowerBook G4 with an older version of the AirPort Utility.
In addition, I cannot see the external HDD connected to the AirPort Extreme Base Station, and my wireless printer (HP D410a) suddenly stopped working via the MacBook Air. However, it works just fine from my iPhone, which is connected to the same AirPort Extreme/Express wireless network.
Recently, at the request of Sky Broadband, I switched to fixed IP addresses instead of DHCP, as I was having issues with the DHCP set-up.

Few questions about Airport Extreme/Express

I have a few questions about Airport extreme/express:
1 Can you access hard drive trough express?
2 I have cable NOT wireless modem. What would be the best option (speed-wise) to connect to internet- connect modem to Extreme and access internet wirelessly from it? To connect modem to Extreme and imac?
3 How fast is read/ write from hard drive connected to Extreme?
4 How many hard drives can you connect to Extreme (or Express if that is possible)?
5 Can you remotely sync Ipod nano/ shuffle using Extreme?
I really hate wire clutter around my desk. What I intend to do is to connect hard drives and printer to Airport Extreme and access them remotely. That would leave empty desk:).
Thanks

1. You cannot connect a hard drive to the Airport Express USB port.
2. The speed of wireless networking is faster than the speed of most cable internet services. Therefore, you won't notice any difference in your internet connection speed between (a) a cabled connection directly between Mac and modem or (b) a wireless connection between Mac and base station and modem.
3. Apple has not published any specs on the speed of hard drive access for the Airport Extreme N Base Station. Several people have posted their own measurements (do a search in this discussion forum), and generally those results are not very good.
4. Apple has not placed a limit on the number of drives you can attach to the Airport Extreme N Base Station (with use of a hub). How many do you want to connect?
5. You cannot remotely sync an iPod using the Extreme Base Station.

Extreme, express, airtunes & no airport card?

I have a new Mac Pro on the way without an airport card. It will be connected to an Airport Extreme. My stereo is connected to an Airport Express for airtunes, currently via my G4 (with an airport card). Is it possible to connect to the Express via the Extreme on the Pro using Airtunes without an airport card?
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Is it possible to connect to the Express via the Extreme on the Pro using Airtunes without an airport card?
Yes. The Mac Pro would connect via Ethernet to the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) which would pass the signal wirelessly to the AirPort Express (AX).

2 x Airport Extreme's or 1 Extreme + Express? Config Help Please!

Hello,
I have just purchased the MacBookPro Retina and want to reevaluate my WiFi setup.
My current configuration:
*Baement* > Cable Modem --> Airport Extreme [5th Gen] ---- Cat 5e ---> Switch GB ---> Netgear G AP > *study*
There are a few other Wireless G rated AP's around the house.
Do you think I should get another Airport Extreme for the study? or should I go for the new Airport Express - The Extreme is 3 Stream, can use 5GHz
I have a 120/mbit Cable Connection, so the Express throughput may be limited?
Can I use a second Extreme just as an AP?
Thanks guys,

If you plan to connect a hard drive to the "new" AirPort that you will be adding, the AirPort Extreme will support a USB hard drive, the AirPort Express will not.
If you do have a 120 Mbps connection, then the AirPort Extreme would be the better choice as well since it has Gigabit Ethernet ports while the Express is limited to 100 Mbps.
While the Extreme does have 3 LAN ports and the Express 1, you could always add an Ethernet switch to either device if you need more connection points.
Finally, the AirPort Extreme has the better antenna package, so if your budget permits, another AirPort Extreme would be the logical choice for use as an access point.
Configure the Extreme to "create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name, same security settings and same password as the "main" AirPort Extreme and be sure to configure the "new" Extreme in Bridge Mode to work correctly on the network.

Airport extreme, express,and iTunes

I have a 1.33ghz iBook, an airport extreme base station and an airport express that I have configured to use to play itunes through my stereo at home. when I jack my ibook directly into the stereo ituns works flawlessly, but when I play itunes wirelessly through the network the program keeps pausing for up to about 5 seconds. The program will then resume playing by itself picking up right where it left off, as far as I can tell. I also have a wintel xp machine at home that is connected directly into the airport extreme, and it does the same thing. Any ideas?

Thanks, I found the topic at "audio drop while using airtunes". Now I only wish that after spending the money to buy the gear that apple adveritsed to have an airtunes network, that it actually worked without having to come up with some jury rigged set up. This kind of stuff is why I switched from wintel last year to apple

Airport extreme/express network setup

i'm sure this has been covered in general but lan equipment and requirements vary widely (plus most of my wireless experience is w/non-apple routers), so here goes. i have the following hardware
airport extreme (802.11n) running 7.5.2 (might downgrade to 7.4.x based on comments in this forum) connected to cable modem
2 airport express (v6.3) connected wirelessly to ap extreme
1 airport express (v6.3) connected via ethernet (wd powerline) to ap extreme
what i'd like:
ap extreme base to be the only SSID & DHCP server on the network.
the 2 wireless expresses to provide wider coverage in the main house.
the express connected via ethernet to provide wireless signal/access in the detached guest house (trying to run it wirelessly does not get a strong enough signal, hence the powerline ethernet), but only as an extension to the extreme base.
when a device (laptop, phone, etc.) connects, it should use the closest / strongest wireless signal, but always think there is only 1 network/connection config. and, when one moves between house and guest house, connected device will auto 'roam'.
whoever set this up, set the extreme to be running in WDS mode (WDS main). however, it complains that it is the only WDS device on the network (see next ???).
the 2 wireless expresses are set to 'Participate in WDS' (WDS remote)
in order to get the ethernet-connected express to work, i had to give it its own SSID and set it to 'Create wireless network'.
it does work, but there are 2 networks, no roaming, and error message on ap extreme base re:WDS config.
questions:
1) what mode should the extreme base use ('Create wireless network' or 'Participate in WDS network')?
2) what settings (WDS or wireless) for the wireless expresses?
3) what mode should the ethernet-connected express use ('Create wireless network', 'Participate in WDS network' or 'Join wireless network')?
4) anything special i need to know to get the roaming to work reliably?
5) any suggestion (due to missing questions :-)?
tx for any info. i could try all the permutations & combinations of config (actually, i've already tried a number of them , but tired of running up/downstairs and to/fro resetting devices, so i thought i would ask for help from people with more experience background.
mack

Hi, mackiemesser. Welcome to the forums!
So if I understand correctly, your setup looks like this:
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• Express #1, Express #2, and the Extreme should be set to "Participate in a WDS."
• The Extreme needs to be told that Expresses #1 and #2 will be WDS Remotes. (You'll have to enter their MAC addresses.)
• Expresses #1 and #2 need to be told that the Extreme will be their WDS Main. (You'll have to enter its MAC address.)
• Express #3 should indeed be set to "Create a wireless network" but should use the same SSID and password that your other wireless network uses.
• All Expresses should be configured to operate in Bridge Mode. In Manual Setup, click "Internet" in the toolbar and choose "Off (Bridge Mode)" from the "Connection Sharing" popup menu.
• The Extreme should not be in Bridge Mode. It should instead "Share a public IP."
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A few suggestions:
• Write down the MAC addresses of all your Extremes. This saves a lot of time when you're setting up the WDS.
• Sometimes after you change the WDS settings for one AirPort on the network, it confuses the other AirPorts in the WDS, and you get network problems until all of the AirPorts agree on WDS information. In this case, if you can't see an AirPort in AirPort Utility, connect that AirPort to the computer via Ethernet. In fact, it might save time to gather all your AirPorts and plug them in next to your computer for the WDS setup process so that you can easily connect via Ethernet if necessary.
• Using a WDS dramatically decreases your network performance. Every time you add a WDS Remote, you decrease your maximum network speed by 50%. Newer AirPorts support 802.11n and have a feature that allows you to extend your wireless network without as much overhead as a WDS, but all AirPorts in the wireless network that's extended must support 802.11n.

Airport Extreme & Express Network

I have the Airport Extreme as my base with three Airport expresses acting as extenders, one downstairs and two daisy chaining to an outdoor area about fifty feet away. We have an old house with heavy plaster and stucco walls that just kills signals. In setting up Airtunes, can i use one of the extenders or do i need another express to be the airtunes carrier? Am i limited on how many expresses are on the system. New to the apple world, but loving how easy things seem to work.
thanks

An AirPort Express can serve for AirTunes and for network extension at the same time.

Airport extreme needs airtunes!

i think it's ridiculous that airport extreme does not have airtunes. this is a real sticking point with me. why should i upgrade to 802.11n when my airport express, which is a measly 802.11g will stream to my stereo. this means if i got the extreme i would still have to have the express right next to it. there potentially could be times when i'm trying to view something and i'm accidentally logged onto my slower express rather than my faster extreme. makes no sense. do an update mr. jobs and include airtunes, and 1 more usb plug at least.

COULDN'T,T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. THE EXPRESS IS SUCH A GREAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND TO HAVE PURCHASED STATE OF THE ART 'N' TECHNOLOGY JUST TO HAVE IT SLOWED DOWN TO 'G' WHEN STEAMING TO THE EXPRESS, MAKES NO SENSE TO ME EITHER. BUT ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL , I MUCH RATHER SET-UP AN APPLE NETWORK THAN THE OTHER BRANDS. THERE IS A TRADE OFF WITH WHAT YOU CAN CRAM INTO 1 BOX AND STILL KEEP IT SIMPLE WITH EXQUISITE DESIGN.

Airport extreme & express - I am tearing out the little hair i have left !!

Can anyone help with this problem before i am completly bald.
I have just bought a new imac (with intel chip) and i am wanting to locate it downstairs but the room is in a wireless deadspot.
I have a pc upstairs connected to a bb cable connection. I have now replaced my belkin wireless router with an airport extreme base station and an airport express to act as a booster for the imac downstairs.
i have installed the extreme base station ok and it works for the pc which is hard wired to it and wirelessly for the imac when in range. I am having problems trying to set up the airport express as a relay station.
Every time i configure the extreme to act as a wds and then add the airport express it cuts off the pc connection and the imac, I must not be doing the settings correctly in the airport admin - is it something to do with sharing ip addresses ??
I have followed the instructions on this site but still having probs - can anyone offer help or guidence please
Thanks
imac intel 2ghz 250g Mac OS X (10.4.4) extreme base station airport express

Thanks for your great advice and assistance. I have read the various articles that you linked and will try the new extended configuration using my old 4th gen as soon as my new 5th gen extreme arrives from Apple. I may also try using the express as well by going off in a somewhat different direction on the upstairs floor where the primary base unit is connected to the cable modem. My original reason for upgrading to the new 5th gen was not because the range and signal strength were inadequate, but rather to try and get some improvement in the wireless download speeds from the 4th gen extreme and the extended express. My Mac using an Ethernet connection from the extreme was delivering download speeds of 49 to 50 Mbs all the time, while the wireless download speeds to my new iPad or my iPhone 5 were only about 15Mbs coming from the extreme and 7-8 Mbs if I was downloading through the express. I have been reading lots of comments on this subject for over a year now, with many others experiencing the same problem, but Apple never really acknowledging that there was even an issue. The only solution seemed to be that people who upgraded to the 5th gen. we're getting much better performance across all performance issues. Here's hoping for success in the next few days. Thanks again for your assistance.

On a network with multiple airports (extreme, express, + time capsule), do they all have to be "guest" capable devices in order to offer guest networking?

Here's the situation: I have three older devices:
a1254 Time Capsule
a1134 airport extreme
a1264 express
none of these support guest networking, according to Apple. If I add a newer Extreme (3rd gen or higher) that support guest networks, will that be possible to offer to guests within range of the Extreme, -OR- do I have to upgrade my entire network of Apple wifi devices? Help appreciated, esp if you have such a setup. thanks!

The problem here is guest network only works if the Apple Router is indeed the main router.. you cannot setup guest network on a bridged router. Although it appears you can, it doesn't actually work.
You could modify the network setup..
Use one device dedicated to a secondary guest network. This would actually work better than using guest but you should have some way to prevent access to computers from guest.. that may be easy or hard depending on the modem you are using.

Help in Planning Network: G5/iBook G4/Airport Extreme & Express?

Hi Folks,
I could use some help setting up a WiFI network to accomplish three goals (see below).
Hardware and Software:
Computers
-Dual Core 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 Desktop Computer (note: NO internal airport WiFi card), OS 10.4.11
-iBook G4 with internal Airport Card (currently with dead HD, awaiting a replacement HD any day). Can't remember is this has an early version of OS10.4 or 10.3.
Airport
-Airport Express 802.11n (MB321LL/A, model #A1264)
-Airport Extreme base station model #A1034 (older unit with 2003 date)
-Airport Card internal card in the iBook G4
Airport Software loaded on my G5:
-Airport Admin Utility v5.4.2
-Airport Disk Utility v1.5.3
** I do NOT have Airport Setup Assistant software on the G5, nor can I locate it on the OS install disks that came with the G5.
Network Goals:
Previously, I've setup a simple WiFi network in my apartment by using only the Airport Express: I connected the DSL modem to the Airport Express and transmitted the WiFI internet signal to the iBook. I haven't had that setup for quite some time; recently I was given the Airport Extreme and I'd like to finally get a network up and running.
I have a roommate that wants internet access so I'd like to setup a WiFi network to accomplish as many of the following three goals as possible:
1) Wifi internet capability.
1a) G5 wired connection to DSL modem/Airport Express as my primary internet connection and for fastest speeds (again, no WiFI card in the G5).
1b) Transmit WiFi internet signal so my roommate can share internet access, but for security purposes limit my roommate from accessing any data/files on my computer(s).
1c) WiFi internet access for my own G4 iBook.
2) WiFi file sharing network
2a) Wireless network so that my G4 iBook can access data/files from my G5 (private network roommate excluded).
3) Stream iTunes.
I have my iTunes library on an external HD, currently connected to my G5. I'd like to broadcast iTunes music to another room. Can the Airport Extreme stream iTunes from my G5 (the latter with no internal Airport Card) to another room where the Airport Express is connected to another stereo receiver/speakers? If yes, can I use my G4 laptop as an iTunes remote control to make music selections?
Question: Can all (or most?) of these goals be accomplished with the hardware/software on hand?
.... so....
Currently, I plugged in the Airport Extreme connected with an ethernet cable to the G5 (using the connection with the <- -> symbol on the Airport Extreme). The G5 doesn't identify the Airport Extreme, which makes me think I need the AIrport Setup Assistant Software?
In any case, I'm lost as to how to configure this setup to accomplish my goals. I've owned Apple since 1994 but haven't delved far into setting up networks.
Any guidance and help would be tremendously appreciated!
Thanks a bunch,
Lovegasoline

Bump.
Can anyone offer some basic guidance?
Do I need Airport Setup Assistant software to configure this network?
Thanks.

Windows 7 machine unable to connect to WDS (Airport extreme + express)

Hi - I've just dusted down my old Airport Extreme (b/g) and Airport Express to extend the range of a Sagem Mini Livebox router (that we use because it gives internet telephone and tv feeds here in France).
The AExt has an ethernet connection to the livebox and is set up as the main WDS machine; the AExp is connected wirelessly to the AExt as a WDS relay station. It all works fine - I've set the airport wifi network up with a different name to the main livebox wifi network, and can access it using my Mac machines all over the house. But my wife has a Windows 7 machine that she uses for work ... and it fails to see the airport network (but is able to connect to the livebox wifi without any problem).
I don't know Windows 7 very well, and there seem to be very few options that you can configure. The wifi adaptor is a Dell 1390 (only b/g connections according to an online manual); but the old airport boxes only support b/g compatible connections, so that should work.
I've set up a wireless network on the W7 machine that matches the airport profile: WPA personal security ... but my understanding is that this will not change whether the W7 machine can see the airport network (but only affect how or whether it connects).
Not sure what else I can do? Any thoughts on how I can reconfigure my airport WDS network so that the W7 machine can see it (and connect to it)?
Thanks - andy

Are you trying to configure the Express to "join" the wireless network?
If yes, the message you are receiving is likely an indication that you do not have the correct security settings selected for the Express. Unless the security settings between the wireless router and Express match up exactly, the Express will display the error that "an error occurred, etc".
The easiest way to confirm if you have this problem is temporarily set the main wireless router to "no security" and try to connect the Express that way. If you can connect, then you know that it is a security issue.
Please tell us the exact setting for security that the wireless router there is using and we'll try to give you some more ideas.
The Express will connect. It's just a matter of finding the right settings.
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Airport Extreme & Express "extended" but signal is still weak

I have a brand new Airport Extreme 802.11n and an old Airport Express 802.11g
Airport Extreme is set to "extend wireless network"
Airport Express is set to "join a wireless network" - green light is on and says its connected to the network.
Airport Extreme is downstairs at home, Airport Express is upstairs. Also have Apple TV upstairs.
Apple TV is only getting a two bar signal at the moment from Airport Extreme (and takes forever to transfer files from main computer downstairs). Want to extend network by plugging in Airport Express upstairs and getting stronger signal for Apple TV.
Yet when I plug in Airport Express upstairs - right next to Apple TV - and the green light is on, etc. Apple TV still is only getting two-bar signal - so it appears it's not picking up "extended network" via Express.
Isn't this how an extended network is supposed to work or do I have it all wrong?
THANKS!

Joining a network using the older "b/g" model will not extend the network.
In the case you describe, your Apple TV is connected to the main base station and so is your Airport Express. The Apple TV cannot connect to the Airport Express.
Also, if you do set up the WDS, you would want to put the Airport Express about half way between your main base station and the Apple TV...
If you want to stay with your old Airport Express, you will have to set up a "WDS" network on both devices. However, the speed of your network will be cut down to 54mbps instead of 130 on 2.4GHz band or 300 on the 5GHz band.
I replaced my older Airport Express units with the newer "n" models.
See this Apple doc on how to set up WDS for the older units.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2044?viewlocale=en_US
Also see this document.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1515

Change password airport extreme+express

I have an airport extreme and two express for wideout. I wanna change my wifi-password. How to easily do that? I have tried to use Airport and changed the wifi-password in the extreme. But then the express goes away with yellow sign with !. How to do this?

Change to the password that you want to use on one AirPort Express
Click Update to store the new setting
Wait a full minute for the Express to restart with a slow, blinking amber light
Power off the Express
Change to the password that you want to use on the other AirPort Express
Click Update to store the new setting
Wait a full minute for the Express to restart with a slow, blinking amber light
Power off the Express
Change to the password that you want to use on the AirPort Extreme
Click Update to store the new setting
Wait a full minute for the AirPort Extreme to display a green light
Power up one AirPort Express and wait a minute for a green light
Power up the other AirPort Express and wait a minute for a green light

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