Airport Extreme & Express Network

I have the Airport Extreme as my base with three Airport expresses acting as extenders, one downstairs and two daisy chaining to an outdoor area about fifty feet away. We have an old house with heavy plaster and stucco walls that just kills signals. In setting up Airtunes, can i use one of the extenders or do i need another express to be the airtunes carrier? Am i limited on how many expresses are on the system. New to the apple world, but loving how easy things seem to work.
thanks

An AirPort Express can serve for AirTunes and for network extension at the same time.

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Airport extreme/express network setup

i'm sure this has been covered in general but lan equipment and requirements vary widely (plus most of my wireless experience is w/non-apple routers), so here goes. i have the following hardware
airport extreme (802.11n) running 7.5.2 (might downgrade to 7.4.x based on comments in this forum) connected to cable modem
2 airport express (v6.3) connected wirelessly to ap extreme
1 airport express (v6.3) connected via ethernet (wd powerline) to ap extreme
what i'd like:
ap extreme base to be the only SSID & DHCP server on the network.
the 2 wireless expresses to provide wider coverage in the main house.
the express connected via ethernet to provide wireless signal/access in the detached guest house (trying to run it wirelessly does not get a strong enough signal, hence the powerline ethernet), but only as an extension to the extreme base.
when a device (laptop, phone, etc.) connects, it should use the closest / strongest wireless signal, but always think there is only 1 network/connection config. and, when one moves between house and guest house, connected device will auto 'roam'.
whoever set this up, set the extreme to be running in WDS mode (WDS main). however, it complains that it is the only WDS device on the network (see next ???).
the 2 wireless expresses are set to 'Participate in WDS' (WDS remote)
in order to get the ethernet-connected express to work, i had to give it its own SSID and set it to 'Create wireless network'.
it does work, but there are 2 networks, no roaming, and error message on ap extreme base re:WDS config.
questions:
1) what mode should the extreme base use ('Create wireless network' or 'Participate in WDS network')?
2) what settings (WDS or wireless) for the wireless expresses?
3) what mode should the ethernet-connected express use ('Create wireless network', 'Participate in WDS network' or 'Join wireless network')?
4) anything special i need to know to get the roaming to work reliably?
5) any suggestion (due to missing questions :-)?
tx for any info. i could try all the permutations & combinations of config (actually, i've already tried a number of them , but tired of running up/downstairs and to/fro resetting devices, so i thought i would ask for help from people with more experience background.
mack

Hi, mackiemesser. Welcome to the forums!
So if I understand correctly, your setup looks like this:
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• Express #1, Express #2, and the Extreme should be set to "Participate in a WDS."
• The Extreme needs to be told that Expresses #1 and #2 will be WDS Remotes. (You'll have to enter their MAC addresses.)
• Expresses #1 and #2 need to be told that the Extreme will be their WDS Main. (You'll have to enter its MAC address.)
• Express #3 should indeed be set to "Create a wireless network" but should use the same SSID and password that your other wireless network uses.
• All Expresses should be configured to operate in Bridge Mode. In Manual Setup, click "Internet" in the toolbar and choose "Off (Bridge Mode)" from the "Connection Sharing" popup menu.
• The Extreme should not be in Bridge Mode. It should instead "Share a public IP."
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A few suggestions:
• Write down the MAC addresses of all your Extremes. This saves a lot of time when you're setting up the WDS.
• Sometimes after you change the WDS settings for one AirPort on the network, it confuses the other AirPorts in the WDS, and you get network problems until all of the AirPorts agree on WDS information. In this case, if you can't see an AirPort in AirPort Utility, connect that AirPort to the computer via Ethernet. In fact, it might save time to gather all your AirPorts and plug them in next to your computer for the WDS setup process so that you can easily connect via Ethernet if necessary.
• Using a WDS dramatically decreases your network performance. Every time you add a WDS Remote, you decrease your maximum network speed by 50%. Newer AirPorts support 802.11n and have a feature that allows you to extend your wireless network without as much overhead as a WDS, but all AirPorts in the wireless network that's extended must support 802.11n.

How to setup a printer with Airport Extreme + Express Network

Ok so here's how things are setup. I have an Extreme connected to my cable modem creating the wireless network. I have a PC that doesn't have a wireless card, so I setup an Express next to it. The Express takes in the wireless signal, and the PC is connected to the Express through ethernet and has a successful connection. Next I want to connect my printer to the USB port of the Express and share it over the network. It doesn't work plug and play. From the Airport utility, the express recognizes the printer, however, the computers on the network do not see it. Can this be set up to work? If so, what am I missing?
Thanks

If you are on PC's, you will need to download the bonjour for windows.
just google it.

I am unable to see my Airport Extreme/Express on my MacBook via Airport Utility

I have two issues:
1. I am unable to see my Airport Extreme and my Airport Express via my MacBook Air's Airport Utility when I scan for Base Stations. However, the computer is happily connected to the wireless network of my Extreme (the Express is used to extend range)
2. I am unable to see a HDD that is connected via USB cable to the Airport Extreme.
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks

Further info:
Setup
MacBook Air running OS X 10.5.8
AirPort Extreme Base Station
AirPort Express used to extend range
AirPort Utility v5.5.3
The MacBook Air is actually connected to the wireless network provided by the two AirPorts!
Oddly, I see both AirPorts just fine when using my older PowerBook G4 with an older version of the AirPort Utility.
In addition, I cannot see the external HDD connected to the AirPort Extreme Base Station, and my wireless printer (HP D410a) suddenly stopped working via the MacBook Air. However, it works just fine from my iPhone, which is connected to the same AirPort Extreme/Express wireless network.
Recently, at the request of Sky Broadband, I switched to fixed IP addresses instead of DHCP, as I was having issues with the DHCP set-up.

Few questions about Airport Extreme/Express

I have a few questions about Airport extreme/express:
1 Can you access hard drive trough express?
2 I have cable NOT wireless modem. What would be the best option (speed-wise) to connect to internet- connect modem to Extreme and access internet wirelessly from it? To connect modem to Extreme and imac?
3 How fast is read/ write from hard drive connected to Extreme?
4 How many hard drives can you connect to Extreme (or Express if that is possible)?
5 Can you remotely sync Ipod nano/ shuffle using Extreme?
I really hate wire clutter around my desk. What I intend to do is to connect hard drives and printer to Airport Extreme and access them remotely. That would leave empty desk:).
Thanks

1. You cannot connect a hard drive to the Airport Express USB port.
2. The speed of wireless networking is faster than the speed of most cable internet services. Therefore, you won't notice any difference in your internet connection speed between (a) a cabled connection directly between Mac and modem or (b) a wireless connection between Mac and base station and modem.
3. Apple has not published any specs on the speed of hard drive access for the Airport Extreme N Base Station. Several people have posted their own measurements (do a search in this discussion forum), and generally those results are not very good.
4. Apple has not placed a limit on the number of drives you can attach to the Airport Extreme N Base Station (with use of a hub). How many do you want to connect?
5. You cannot remotely sync an iPod using the Extreme Base Station.

Extreme/Express network problem - short wave intereference?

Hi,
I have an extreme base station, an imac core duo in the same room and an express in the livingroom about 20+/- feet away. I want to stream music to the livingroom and extend the network so my ibook gets a strong signal in the living room. I had this all set and life was good for a few months. Suddenly weak or no signal, music cutting out, losing connection on the ibook. Often no connection in the LR and blinking orange light on the express. I reset express, triple checked and restarted everything to the point of starting from scratch. Thought maybe it was microwave (when not on?) fridge or cordless phone (phone now in a different place). I do have concrete walls. The kitchen was recently remodeled, the only new appliance is the microwave, and there are new cabinets and a wall was removed. But no conclusions to the problem.
Then the other night a friend looked at my neighbors yard and said "what is that big antenna?" It's not new, but the neighbor appears to have a shortwave or CB or some setup. It's been there all along. Sometimes I heard voices on the cheap speakers I used to have in the office... I thought is was CB from the nearby highway but come to think of it ... always the same voice.
So... I know NOTHING about shortwave or CB stuff. Is this likely my problem? I am waiting to see them in the yard so I can ask what it is. If it is my problem, is there anything I can do to resolve??
Thanks!
Holly
imac intel core duo Mac OS X (10.4.8) ibook g3, airport extreme, express, ipods galore....

Anything that operates at 2.4 GHz can cause interference with your wireless network. I don't know if shortwave or CB operate near this frequency but I don't believe so.
KB 58543, AirPort: Potential sources of interference

I enabled the guest network feature on my time capsule. Can I configure my airport extremes guest network feature if I use this as a network extender using a "roaming" network?

I enabled the guest network feature on my TC. Can I configure my airport extremes guest network feature if I use the extreme as a network extender connecting my Airport Extreme to my TC via ethernet cable?

Unfortunately no, since the AirPort Extreme should be configured in Bridge Mode if it is connecting to the Time Capsule using an Ethernet connection.
The Guest Network option cannot be enabled when the AirPort is configured in Bridge Mode.
Another way of saying the same thing is that the Guest Network cannot be "extended" either by using an Ethernet connection or wireless. It is only available from the Time Capsule "main" wireless router on your network, not any extending devices.

When attempting to set a password on my Airport Extreme guest network i get this "Advertising a service globally using Bonjour requires a global hostname." What can i do to set password on this network?

When attempting to set a password on my Airport Extreme Guest Network i get this "Advertising a service globally using Bonjour requires a global hostname." What does it mean. Or what i need to do to correct it.

When trying to troubleshoot my problem I discovered a forum that was saying certain NTFS drives work just fine
Apple support says that an NTFS or exFAT drive cannot be used when connected to the AirPort Extreme.
I suppose it is possible that someone might have been using some type of special software on the drive that might perform a "conversion", but without more details, it is hard to know.
Note: ExFAT and NTFS formats aren't supported.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2426

Airport Express disconnects wired internet connection when attempting to extend Airport Extreme WiFi network

I just purchased and airport express to extend my wifi network. My base station is an airport extreme, I have one wired connection and a wifi network. When I go through the recommended steps to set up the express and "extend the network", the airport extreme will no longer connect to the internet via ethernet. I have tried various settings and can't seem to resolve the problem. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Ok so we now have a solution to the problem. A friend of mine came round to work this out with me last night and we were able to get it working, but it is not as easy as I had hoped. Fisrtly we plugged the airport express into my router using the ethernet cable (for this I am using an Airport Express Base Station") and in airport utilities selected the airport express. In edit, we then gave the airport express a new range of IP address which did not conflict with any of the other applications that I have already assigned. We also named the Airport Express with a distinguishable name. We then waited for the changes to be registered then unplugged the Airport Express from the router. I then plugged my AppleTV via HDMI into a tv to test it and selected the new wifi network with the new Airport Express distinguishable name. I was able to watch a video that I have on my ipad directly on my tv without being connected to the internet, and was able to play Airplay presentations.
No the easiest solution, and certainly not something that anyone at Apple has talked me through in my lengthy conversations with them at Applecare.
Hope this helps.

On a network with multiple airports (extreme, express, + time capsule), do they all have to be "guest" capable devices in order to offer guest networking?

Here's the situation: I have three older devices:
a1254 Time Capsule
a1134 airport extreme
a1264 express
none of these support guest networking, according to Apple. If I add a newer Extreme (3rd gen or higher) that support guest networks, will that be possible to offer to guests within range of the Extreme, -OR- do I have to upgrade my entire network of Apple wifi devices? Help appreciated, esp if you have such a setup. thanks!

The problem here is guest network only works if the Apple Router is indeed the main router.. you cannot setup guest network on a bridged router. Although it appears you can, it doesn't actually work.
You could modify the network setup..
Use one device dedicated to a secondary guest network. This would actually work better than using guest but you should have some way to prevent access to computers from guest.. that may be easy or hard depending on the modem you are using.

Help in Planning Network: G5/iBook G4/Airport Extreme & Express?

Hi Folks,
I could use some help setting up a WiFI network to accomplish three goals (see below).
Hardware and Software:
Computers
-Dual Core 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 Desktop Computer (note: NO internal airport WiFi card), OS 10.4.11
-iBook G4 with internal Airport Card (currently with dead HD, awaiting a replacement HD any day). Can't remember is this has an early version of OS10.4 or 10.3.
Airport
-Airport Express 802.11n (MB321LL/A, model #A1264)
-Airport Extreme base station model #A1034 (older unit with 2003 date)
-Airport Card internal card in the iBook G4
Airport Software loaded on my G5:
-Airport Admin Utility v5.4.2
-Airport Disk Utility v1.5.3
** I do NOT have Airport Setup Assistant software on the G5, nor can I locate it on the OS install disks that came with the G5.
Network Goals:
Previously, I've setup a simple WiFi network in my apartment by using only the Airport Express: I connected the DSL modem to the Airport Express and transmitted the WiFI internet signal to the iBook. I haven't had that setup for quite some time; recently I was given the Airport Extreme and I'd like to finally get a network up and running.
I have a roommate that wants internet access so I'd like to setup a WiFi network to accomplish as many of the following three goals as possible:
1) Wifi internet capability.
1a) G5 wired connection to DSL modem/Airport Express as my primary internet connection and for fastest speeds (again, no WiFI card in the G5).
1b) Transmit WiFi internet signal so my roommate can share internet access, but for security purposes limit my roommate from accessing any data/files on my computer(s).
1c) WiFi internet access for my own G4 iBook.
2) WiFi file sharing network
2a) Wireless network so that my G4 iBook can access data/files from my G5 (private network roommate excluded).
3) Stream iTunes.
I have my iTunes library on an external HD, currently connected to my G5. I'd like to broadcast iTunes music to another room. Can the Airport Extreme stream iTunes from my G5 (the latter with no internal Airport Card) to another room where the Airport Express is connected to another stereo receiver/speakers? If yes, can I use my G4 laptop as an iTunes remote control to make music selections?
Question: Can all (or most?) of these goals be accomplished with the hardware/software on hand?
.... so....
Currently, I plugged in the Airport Extreme connected with an ethernet cable to the G5 (using the connection with the <- -> symbol on the Airport Extreme). The G5 doesn't identify the Airport Extreme, which makes me think I need the AIrport Setup Assistant Software?
In any case, I'm lost as to how to configure this setup to accomplish my goals. I've owned Apple since 1994 but haven't delved far into setting up networks.
Any guidance and help would be tremendously appreciated!
Thanks a bunch,
Lovegasoline

Bump.
Can anyone offer some basic guidance?
Do I need Airport Setup Assistant software to configure this network?
Thanks.

Issues with Airport Extreme/Express/PS3 network

I have searched and searched and cannot find the answer to my problem. In my house I have an Airport Extreme, a Linksys switch, and an Airport Express all creating my wireless/ethernet network in the house. Since day one, my PS3 joined our network and I have been able to get online, no problems. Recently though I have decided to attempt to get the horribly difficult NAT type 2 with no success.
Right not I have the Extreme acting as the WDS main and the Express (which delivers perfect connection to the PS3) acting as a WDS remote in Bridge mode. The Extreme is sharing a public IP and I have a DHCP reservation for my PS3 (using the default 10.0.1.253 IP) along with all the PS3 necessary ports forwarded. I have also set up the Extreme to set my PS3 as the default NAT host.
My problem is that I get a "Conflicting DHCP Range" error. I also get a lot of warning messages every now and then saying "10.0.1.x is already in use by *MAC address* 10.0.1.1". I still can get on the internet with my computers and PS3 but I have noticed that signing onto PS network works very rarely.
I absolutely cannot make sense of this. I also don't have my NAT 2 so can anyone help me.

Is the PS3 connected to the express over WiFi or plugged into the ethernet port on the express or both?
You should not need forward ports and set the default NAT host. Just setting the default NAT host will forward all traffic that is not sent to another host to the PS3. I would recommend forwarding ports instead of using default host for security reasons.
You could also try setting static IP info in the PS3.

Airport Extreme & Express WDS Network with 5Ghz possible?

Hi Guys,
is it possible to run an Airport WDS Network with 5Ghz? I´m using an Airport Extreme Base and a Express, but its only possible to run it with Draft N in 2,4 Ghz... so thats not enough... for IPTV.
any ideas...
thanks
Simon

Simon2207, Welcome to the discussion area!
No. WDS is an 802.11g feature and 802.11g only operates at 2.4 GHz.

Airport Extreme & Express both wired, but one network?

Ok, I looked to see if this was answered but I wasn't very sure what to search for. If this has been answered please point me in the right direction.
I have an Airport Extreme Base Station that broadcasts my wireless network and is the router for my wired network throughout my house. My den is on the very edge of the AEBS wireless network but the wired network is in this room. Instead of having the Express extend my wireless network wirelessly, could I instead use my wired network from my AEBS directly to the Express? Then have the Express broadcast the same wireless network?
Essentially instead of;
Cable Modem >---(Wired)---->AEBS>~~~~(MyWiFi)~~~~>Express>~~~~(MyWiFi)~~~~
Could I have;
Cable Modem >---(Wired)---->AEBS>---(Wired)---->Express>~~~~(MyWiFi)~~~~
I still want both the AEBS and the Express sharing my one WiFi network, I just don't want the express to "piggy-back" to do it.
Please let me know what I can do to set this up, or if this has been answered before, point me in the right direction.
Thank You very much.

Rachard1, Welcome to the discussion area!
Yes that is possible.
Configure the AirPort Express (AX) to create a wireless network. Configure it to use the same network name (SSID) and encryption type/level/password as the AEBS.
Configure the AX to use a different channel than the AEBS to reduce interference between the two.
Configure the AX to operate as a bridge (not sharing a single IP address, DHCP server disabled).

Extend Network with Airport Extreme & Express

I am trying to extend the range of a wireless network from one house to another about 80 yards away. I have an Airport Extreme Base Station (ABES) and an Airport Express (AX) which is supposed to accomplish this. I found some instructions in the forums that walked me through configuring WDS. That was easy enough, however, when the AX restarts it doesn't come back up in the Airport Utility. It will come up if I do a hard reset on the AX. The ABES continues to show a WDS error and displays a flashing amber light.
What am I doing wrong? How do I fix this issue?

Karen,,, sorry for the interruption. I have the same issue..... AP Extreme Flying Saucer, AP Express "b", and a new AP Express "n" and would like to stop all the drop outs with my music. So, I'll ask Bob for some help.... I think I already know the answer.....
Bob,,,,, Here is my schematic layout.... Everything is "as the crow flies" and in the same height placement. iMac in bedroom, 1st Stereo in Living room approx 25 feet away, 2nd Stereo in a detach Shop approx 85 feet from the iMac. There is a concrete block wall between the computer and the first stereo and the same block wall along with two big glass windows between the computer and the shop stereo. Again all are in a straight line from the computer.
The new AP Express "n" is in the shop which is the greatest distance. If the wind is blowing hard I have lots of drop outs in both stereo's..... And during other nice weather times everything works excellent.
How can I extend the wireless signal??? I'll buy all "n" stuff if you think it'll do the trick....? I can't raise the Dr. Bott antenna due to cord length.... Oh,, my internet modem is plugged into the iMac not the AP Extreme...
Any suggestions....?

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