Airport Extreme in Bridge mode with Linksys WRT610N

Is there a way to wirelessly connect my AEBS to a Linksys 802.11N (WRT610N) router. I think this is called bridge mode. My need is to have the WRT610N connect upstairs to the cable modem and then my computers hard wired into the AEBS bridging the 802.11N coming from the Linksys.

Apple does adhere strictly to the standards. Unfortunately there is no "standard" for wirelessly extending a network. A strategy is loosely described by a strict definition is not made. Therefore usually this does not work between manufacturers and sometimes doesn't even work between devices from the same manufacturer.

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New Airport Extreme in Bridge mode -- some devices have no internet access

I just bought a new Airport Extreme as my old one which was probably 7 years old required restarting every day. My setup is as follows: DSL cable modem to Linksys Router (for a long set of convoluted reasons, I can't remove this layer) and then Airport Extreme. This is how I had it set up with my old one. The only difference is I recently started looking into using "Back to the Mac" on MobileMe and in order for it to work, I set my new Airport Extreme to Bridge mode due to dual NAT. I have an iMac, PC, MBP, MBA, iphone 4, AppleTV and ipad. All was working fine last night when I set it up. 24 hours later, for some odd reasons, I can't have my PC accessing the wireless network at the same time. If I did, it would knock my iMac off the network and says some other device is using the same IP address. For a while, only my iMac (my main computer) can access it and even my iphone can't. At this very moment, my iphone, imac and MBP all have access to the wireless network. My MBA and iPad has no internet connection. I've restarted Airport Extreme, Linksys, and modem more than once... If I switch back to "Use Public IP Address" instead of Bridge mode, everything works except for "Back to the Mac"... Help!

Hey Bob, Thanks...I have already repeated that multiple times yesterday and today but to no avail. I tried to get into the Linksys router control panel but unfortunately we can't remember the username and password (the router is not mine). The make things even more complicated, the router is actually part of the internet package provided by the ISP and they use a PPPoE to log in. Theoretically, we could do a hard reset but the problem is the ISP will not release the PPPoE information unless we sign a long and complicated form saying we want to bypass their Linksys router. We can do that but this process will take days and weeks... Our ISP confirmed that the Linksys router is set to max out at 5 DHCP but we can only connect 3 machines at a time. They are coming out to take a look tomorrow but in the meantime I have reset the Airport Extreme to "Distribute a Public IP Address" mode which will allow access to all computers/devices. What's even more weird is that if I did the Bridge mode, it messes up the Linksys router's own network as well. We can't even just sign into that network... Any ideas why?

How do I put AirPort Extreme in bridging mode from iOS app?

I need to put my AirPort Extreme into bridging mode. I've searched here and the Net and can only find how to do it from a Mac. Can someone please tell me how to do it from the iOS AirPort Utility? This is a Windows and iOS device only network. I do not have any Macs and the Windows version of the utility so far only supports the Express.

Thanks for the response, although I was a bit crestfallen at first, since I had already got that far but could not change the Router Mode. Your response did let me know I was indeed on the right path so I started thinking about what else might need to be changed. I finally figured out that before selecting "Advanced" you need to:
Select Internet Connection
Change from PPPoE to DHCP in the top group of three buttons
Then continue as you described
At that point I could change the Router Mode to Off and I'm happily WiFi-ing with my spiff new Apple router. Ah well, that's what I get for not having any Macs

Setup airport extream in bridge mode with ethernet

how do i setup airport extream in bridge mode with ethernet connection to extend wireless coverage. thanks for help.

We need some additional information to be able to provide the correct answer for your question.
What is the make and model of your "main" router?
What device will you use to set up the AirPort Extreme? Mac? iPad/iPhone?
If you have a Mac, we need the operating system that you are using on the computer. If you are not sure, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac. Post back with the OS X Version number that you see there.

Using an Airport Express with an Airport Extreme in bridge mode

Im trying to use an Airport extreme and an Airport express to have good Wifi coverage in a house. The current Wifi is from a Verizon Westfall modem/router. I went into setup on the modem/router and disabled the wifi, then connected the Extreme to one of the 4 ports on the modem/router. I setup the Extreme in bridge mode ( because I believe I dont want 2 differnt routers handing out local IP's, right? . Anyway, it seems to work fine but I'm trying now to hook up an Express to widen my wifi area. I have cat5 ports all over the house that go back to the Exteme's location so its not a problem to connect the Extreme to the Express via ethernet cable. Im wondering if its possible to use the Express hardwired to the extreme while in Bridge mode because I cant seem to set it up properly. Can anyone out there answer that question and/or give me instructions on setting up this scenerio.
Thanks!

I will reset it like you said and then I should have the cable from the Extreme going to witch port on the express?
WAN "O" port
To set up the Express, open AirPort Utility, click on the Express and click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab just below the icons to assign a device name for the Express, device password, adjust Time Zone, etc. Should look like this, in general:
Click the Wireless tab next to Base Station. Adjust as follows:
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Exact same wireless network name as the AirPort Extreme
Enter check mark next to Allow to be extended
Radio Mode = Automatic or same setting as the AirPort Extreme
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Exact same setting as the AirPort Extreme
Wireless Password = Same wireless password as the AirPort Extreme
Verify Password
Setting should look like this, in general:
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab.
Connect Using = Ethernet.
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update to save settings
Things will look like this:
You will see a green light in 25-30 seconds.
Be sure to restart the entire network.

Why do I lose internet connection when I put airport extreme into bridge mode to correct Double NAT issue

I reset my airport extreme router the other day because I was too lazy to reset the password on my private network.
I have been reading the advice found on apple support communities and wide web, but the solutions do not solve any problems and often create new ones.
I'm regretting because everything was working just fine.
But I remember having this double nat error when I first set it up a few months back, but now I cannot resolve it.
I would live with the yellow light, but it seems that this double nat error is preventing my playstation 3 from connecting to the airport extreme.
When I put the aiport extreme into bridge mode, I loose all my wireless networks, even when I reboot the airport extreme and the modem.
I try rebooting the modem, then the airport. and vice versa. No internet.
I switch back to NAT/DCHP and the internet works fine on apple devices, but not the playstation 3, and I have the 1 Double NAT error.
I have a plain stock Motorolla modem and I can dial in and see settings (although nothing about NAT). I didn't see where to see them.
I tried setting the DHCP only but it said it didn't like the settings. is there a stock range i could be using?

I have a plain stock Motorolla modem and I can dial in and see settings (although nothing about NAT). I didn't see where to see them.
Exact model .. motorola make adsl, cable and probably wireless modems.. with some modems and some modem router.. we need exact info. What kind of broadband do you have?
I would note.. some of the motorola cable modems seem to have issues with the apple routers. If you are about due to change modems.. now is a good time.. not another motorola.
If the modem is a straight cable modem, the AE must be in router mode.. but you need to power down the cable modem. maybe for 20min so the new router can pick up the IP address.
You cannot use DHCP alone.. the ISP do not give you a block of IP addresses.
You cannot use bridge with a pure modem.. you will find it works.. but only to one device.
The only reason you get double NAT is the failure to pick up the public IP.
Give the info required..
If you have trouble, I need the actual IP of the modem. the actual IP of the AE WAN port when plugged in. Screenshots are good.

Westell 6100G in bridge mode with Linksys BFSR41 wired router

I have had a long go-round with V tech support over slow DSL speeds since March 2011. They sent me the Westell 6100G to replace an ancient Westell that had provided satisfactory service for many years, connected through my LInksys BFSR41.
Initially, I connected the Westell directly to a PC and did not see any improvement in speed (always around 1.3M since March). So I re-connected it in bridge mode with the LInksys. Slow speeds continued, plus periodic hiccups, where the connection would simply not exist, although the lights were all good and the LInksys said "connected. Cure was to wait or power down modem and router. The following week a V tech called and said they had made changes to the network and fixed a problem with my line.
Thereafter I did see a vast improvement in speed as tested by Speedtest.net and Speakeasy.com (usually 2.8 M or thereabouts). But I still had the "hiccups". Now you see it, now you don't.
V tech support said, "connect the Westell directly". This indeed solved all intermittance problems. But I need the router and I need it to do the DHCP addressing dynamically as I frequently swap out machines. FYI this is a PPOe connection.
I hope someone on the forum can help me before I spend anther 2 hours in voicemail limbo.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Well, my heat/humidity solution helped, but has not solved my problem. My connection still disappears at unpredictable, though less frequent intervals. Any and all ideas willl be appreciated.
Thanks

HT4259 Cant extend airport extreme in bridge mode?

My configuration is: Internet Cable Modem --> Airport Extreme (bridge mode) --> Airport Express (extend)
My primary wi-fi base station (airport extreme) is set to bridge mode because the cable modem has the DHCP enable. Is it possible to extend it wirelessly with an airport express in other room of the house?
Thanks!

What is the approximate distance from the AirPort Exteme to the location of the AirPort Express?
12 meters (another room)
Distance here in and of itself should not be a problem.
How many obstructions are there in the signal path between the AirPort Extreme and the AirPort Express?
3 walls, 1 cordless phone
A single wall can absorb anywhere from 10-20% of the signal or more depending on the type of construction. If the wallboard/insulation type has foil backing...as many walls do...even more of the signal is likely being absorbed.
At best, the AirPort Express is picking up a signal that is likely 30-35% degraded. At worst, it is getting a signal that has degraded 70-80%, possibly more. As I said, the Express can only repeat the quality of signal that it receives.
The effect of the cordless phone is unknown, but I would note that cordless phones are the main culprits that interfere with wireless network signals in a home.
How many obstructions are there in the signal path between the AirPort Express and the general remote area where more signal coverage is needed?
No obstructions (same room).
Thanks for that info.
I would suggest that you move the AirPort Express closer to the AirPort Extreme. by 5-10 meters. You may need to experiment with several locations to see if the performance improves in the remote area where you need more wireless signal coverage.
Anything that you can do to eliminate or minimize obstructions in the wireless signal path will help. As an example, I cannot get an acceptable signal in my home in any area where the signal must pass through more than 2 walls.
If you do not notice any significant improvement, your home is simply not going to work with a wireless signal extension setup....and you will need to consider connecting the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express together using a permanent wired Ethernet connection. As you might imagine, there is no signal loss in a wire, so this type of setup will work much better than what you are trying to do.
If I put the extreme and express side by side wirelessly (same room) is there a way to know if I am connected to the main or to the repeater?
You will need a Mac laptop to check. There is no need to locate the AirPort devices side by side...they can be located where they are now.
Locate your Mac laptop very close to the AirPort Extreme
Hold down the option key on the Mac while you click on the AirPort icon at the top of the screen
Look for the BSSID and jot that down
The BSSID is the specific ID of the AirPort device to which you are connected.
Now move the laptop very close to the AirPort Express
Perform the same test
If your Mac is connecting to the Express, you will see a different BSSID
If you see the same BSSID as the AirPort Extreme, the laptop is still connecting to the AirPort Extreme....and the Express is not extending the signal at all.

Can i connect hard drive to airport extreme in bridge mode

I just bought a hard drive and want have it connected to my airport extreme which is in bridge mode so that I can use it with U verse. Will I be able to backup my files on my macbook without connecting the usb on the hard drive to the macbook itself?

Will I be able to backup my files on my macbook without connecting the usb on the hard drive to the macbook itself?
This all depends on what you mean by backup your files.
Apple does not support Time Machine backups to a drive at the USB port of the AirPort Extreme, so if you are planning to use Time Machine, the better strategy would be to connect the drive directly to your Mac.
If you want to drag/drop or copy/paste regular data files to the hard drive, that should work OK
Remember that the drive should be formatted in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as most store bought drives will come pre-formatted for Windows NTFS.
The USB port at the AirPort Extreme is under powered, so you almost always have to use a powered USB hub with a hard drive here....even if the drive has its own power supply.

Best Airport Extreme Wireless Radio Mode with Old and New Macs and PC

I'm running Airport Utility 5.3.2 and am running / connecting to the Internet with a new Airport Extreme 802.11n Gigabit Ethernet (the new squared off one) with "Version 7.3.2".
In addition to my new MacBook Black (which has 802.11n, I have two other older Maxs that run 802.11b/g (and also a PC that has 802.11.b/g/n).
Currently, the Airport Extreme's "Wireless" "Radio Mode" is set to
802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)
But, reviewing the Radio Mode menu, I see there are a number of choices that seem "faster" - 802.11n only (2.4 GHz), 802.11n (802.11a compatible) and 802.11n only (5 GHz).
Can I set the Radio Mode to any of these other settings and still have my older Macs (and the PC) connect to the internet using this Airport Extreme? Or, do I have to leave my Airport Extreme Radio Mode set to what appears to be a slower speed 802.11n (802.11b/g compatible) setting to allow others to use this Airport Extreme Base Station?
FWIW, I do have an older Airport 802.11g version 5.7 still connected and set up and the older computers can / could connect through that. However, I was hoping to give that one to a friend for their use elesewhere and wanted to have only one Airport Extreme set up at my house.

"you'll use N+B/G at 2.4 GHZ."
I guess you means that I should continue with my current setting on the Airport Extreme - which is "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)" - if I want all my computers to access the web via the Extreme. Correct?
I'm too much of a novice to try a "bridge" mode setup.
However, your suggestion (I think) "It would be more reliable and faster speed if you could connect both routers to using ethernet" does give me hope.
My Verizon Fios modem is actually a router. Indeed, I have my TiVo box connected to the Fios modem/router.
If I connect BOTH of my Airport Base Stations to the Fios modem/router and then do the following:
(1) set the newer "Extreme" Base Station to "802.11n only (5 GHz)" and
(2) keep the older Base Station (running 802.11g) as is
then my (and others') newer computer(s) with 802.11n can connect at high speed via the Extreme and older computers can still connect using the older Base Station.
Correct?
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Airport extreme in bridge mode

I currently am wireless with an ATT Uverse. However signel is weak in a far part of the house. i do have an airport extreme we have used in another location. Hosw do I connect my airport Extreme to also us?

what is the make and model of your ISP box?
open airport utility and for the apple box (i assume extreme) connected to the ISP box, is it set to 'off/bridge mode' under the network tab? if not, make this change

Airport extreme in bridge mode or not?

Hello
I have an Thomson TG789vn non-apple router and a AirPort Extreme. The Thomson-router is connected to the Airport Extreme with a ethernet-cabel and the thomson is set in DHCP/NAT and the Airport Extreme is set in bridge mode.
Is this the best setup for my Airport Extreme, or is it better to set the non-apple router in bridge mode and the Airport Extreme in DHCP/NAT-mode?
Regards
Morten Joki Haukeberg

I think if you are using Back To My Mac you need your A.E. in DHCP/NAT-mode
That is correct.
Also, if you want to create a guest network, i think the A.E needs to be in DHCP/NAT-mode.
That is also correct.
Its just a bit tricky to set the non-apple router in brigde mode, thats why I would like to know first,
Is is usually more than a bit tricky to try to completely reconfigure a modem/router or gateway to act as a simple modem. Sometimes, it is not possible, other times very difficult to easy. It all depends on the device.
In most cases, it would be much, much simpler.....if you want to run the AirPort in DHCP and NAT mode, to use a simple bridge mode modem.....rather than try to reconfigure a modem/router.
If possible, ask your service provider if they might be able to furnish you with a simple, bridge mode modem.....if you want to use the AirPort as the main router providing DHCP and NAT functions for the network.

Adjusting Airport Extreme 11n to work with Linksys Adapter 11b. Possible?

What adjustments, if possible, do I make to my AirPort Extreme 11n Router to allow my Linksys Desktop Adapter 11b to connect another PC wirelessly to the Internet?

By default, the Airport Extreme base station will support both 802.11b as well as 802.11g connections. You can use the Airport Admin Utility to check the settings of your Base Station, to make sure this default setting has not been altered to function with 802.11g connections only.
There are a few other considerations when attempting to connect PCs (particularly those running older versions of Windows) wirelessly to an Airport Base Station. A lot of tips and tricks can be found via the links at http://tech.ifelix.net/index.html

Is it ok to use Westell 6100F in non-bridged mode with Linksys router?

I'm a new Verizon DSL customer.
After several attempts I was only able to connect my Verizon 6100F modem with my Linksys wired router in non-bridged mode. I just changed the IP address in my router, and then released and renewed. I did this just yesterday and the connection is fine...so far.
Fyi, I'm using the Linksys for its firewall. I don't need wireless.
Since I didn't bridge the modem, I assume I'm basically using two routers, the 6100F and the Linksys. Will this cause me issues in the future?
I need to decide whether to try again to bridge the modem or just leave it alone.
Thanks.

dslr595148 wrote:
Yes, it is ok.
Here are things that I have ever heard of what can happen (or happens) with Double NAT:
#1 Might not possible to get online, depending on the LAN IP of both routers. But it sounds like you already solved that issue.
#2 NAT and Double NAT cause lag/latency.
I point to two source(s).
a) URL: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15872
Title/Location: All DSLR (dslreports.com) FAQs » AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ » Motorola Info » How do I properly set up a Motorola 2210 with a Netgear router.
b) As to why that theory/concept is true, go to http://www.endlagnow.org/ELN/TakeAction_TopTips.aspx
and read tip number one, there.
#3 If you want to allow users from the net to connect to you, I point to..
http://www.portforward.com/ -> Other Guides -> Port Forwarding Behind Two Routers?
#4 http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/992
Where they talk about Double NAT, VPNs, and visiting secure (SSL) sites.
#5 Some routers may or may not show up when doing a trace route to the outside.
Another problem with double-NAT is some screen sharing methods may not work. Such as Apple "Back To My Mac".
Using and troubleshooting Back to My Mac in Mac OS X 10.5
I just logged on to this forum to see if I can find the necessary steps to turn my Westel 6100F up to "bridge" so I can use my Linksys WRT54G2v1 as the only router on my home network.
PS, I'm subscribing to this thread in case anyone has a link to step by step for setting this up on the Westel 6100F (I can handle the Linksys end of things).
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Message Edited by ElizabethS on 07-11-2009 01:30 PM

Airport Extreme in Bridge Mode for HD Homerun to join network wirelessly

I want capture over the air TV shows via an HD Homerun and store these shows on my mac mini. My current situation in my home makes it very difficult to install a wired ethernet network. I am thinking about adding a wireless ethernet bridge with a an airport extreme or other brand to bring the HD Homerun into the network. I currently have an airport extreme bas station as my router plugged into a cable modem. The mac mini and an imac 1gz and mcb are also wirelessly on the network. I am wondering if this wireless bridge would be adequate to handle the transfer of over the air video to the macmini. Anyone tried this type of thing?

Hello tfrankm. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
In order for the AirPort Extreme to perform as a wireless Ethernet bridge, it would have to be configured to extend a wireless network provided by another AirPort or Time Capsule. Only the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) can be configured as a wireless Ethernet bridge (Apple calls this ProxySTA) by joining a wireless network created by any manufacturer's wireless router or wireless access point.
Unfortunately, the ProxySTA feature offers the lowest bandwidth performance. The following would be the typical throughput performance based on the AXn's configuration on the 2.4 GHz band:
o Wired-to-wireless (Default configuration as a wireless router): 85 Mbps
o Wireless-to-wireless (AXn configured to extend another AirPort or Time Capsule) : 33-39 Mbps
o Wireless-to-wired (ProxySTA configuration): 26-35 Mbps

Airport Extreme in Bridge mode with Linksys WRT610N

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