Airport Extreme + MBP = No Signal

Hello All,
I've installed a AP Extreme ( fast ethernet ) in my front room, I'm using a new 2.2 Mac Book Pro, I can get full AP signal within about 30 feet, then as i walk to the other end of the house ( a distance of about 70 feet ). The signal drops conpletely, This seems strange, since i have a G5 2.0 DP machine further away behind a brick wall, and it still recives a weak signal ??????. I know about the random dropouts with these routers, but i thought i fixed those with a reset of the base station.
Seems to be very strange
Any help would be great
Thanks
DMac

Then it is very possible that you may have some form of Wi-Fi interference that has been introduced recently in the immediate area that is preventing your computers from getting a good clean signal from the base station.
I suggest you perform a simple site survey, using utilities like MacStumbler or iStumbler to determine potential areas of interference, and then, try to either eliminate or significantly reduce them where possible.

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I've read posts about setting up more than one Extreme, but feeling overwhelmed by all the terms. Also, much of the advice, including articles here, pre-dates the TC. From what I've read, the version of Airport Utility makes a difference too. I have the latest, 6.3.1.
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Hi Again.. !!
There are two basic methods of connection.. wired by ethernet.. much the superior method to be used in every case possible.. (less gremlins!!). Even homeplug (EOP we call them here).. adapters are a better alternative to..
Extend wireless. This is apple terminology for what everyone else calls wireless repeater.
Wireless repeater as the name suggests.. picks up the wireless signal from a wireless source and retransmits it.. in the process it slows all transfers by half.. or more.. so it is inefficient.. only use where wire cannot be run.
Now to your specific question.
First question: Can somebody explain, or point me to current articles, the differences between hardwiring (ethernet) the old AE to 1) the TC or 2) my wired Internet router (Verizon). A third option is, I think, is to set up the old AE stand-alone, connecting via wifi only, in a different part of the house.
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AE stand alone is useless to you.. in stand alone you connect to it but have no connection to the rest of your network or the internet.
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If you connect by ethernet you set up roaming.
See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260
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That's a good, helpful list but we don't really have any of those potential interfereces. Like I said, this signal is down to two bars from five feet away and only three bars from literally six inches away, so there's really not a lot of room for intererence from that distance anywat.
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If you want the Gen 1 Extreme to produce and deliver a 5 GHz wireless network, it can do so, but any 2.4 GHz devices that you have will not be able to connect to the 5 GHz signal.
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Good day to you all.
This might seem like a weird question. I've just rencently purchased my first ever MacBook Pro to enter the Mac family
With it, I also bought an AirPort Extreme. Like others today, I've had a lot of trouble trying to get the thing set up. I somehow managed to get it working, but the signal strength in the far room of the house is too weak.
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Ah, yes. Good idea. Well, in a few year's time, we'll probably move on to better devices, but, for those who do have something that isn't Apple...I encourage you to try it.
I'm using the Cicsco/Lynksys Range Extender that I believe is simply called RE1000; mine was refurbished, too.
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I finally found time to spend (waste) another day trying to get the Extreme working again. No luck. Some observations:
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- I am running Mac OS 10.3.9 on all my various Macs. Apple software updates are current.
This wave of posts reminds me of time when iBooks had a faulty motherboards. This looks like an easier fix, a firmware or software patch.
If anyone has a real solution, as opposed to an experimental one, I would appreciate it. Other posts recommend switching to more reliable third party hardware, I guess it might come to that.
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Waldarsky, Welcome to the discussion area!
I don't know how you ended up in the iMac (CRT) G3 discussion area since you question has nothing to do with that.
I'm buying a new iMac that will have an Airport installed in it. I want my old flat panel iMac 800Mhz G4 to now be wireless. Can I just connect the AE via ethernet and Bam be connected with my old iMac.
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Steve, First welcome to the discussions.
I may be a little confused.
When you have an Internet connection in your house, it comes in at a single access point and from there can be distributed throughout your house to different areas in a couple of different ways.
If you choose it can be done with a wireless router, if your computers have wireless cards installed.
Or you can hard wire them, direct into a wired router, thus not needing wireless cards in your computers. They will connect with ethernet cables (Cat 5 or Cat 6).
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