Airport Extreme or Airport Snow/Graphite?

Hi Folks,
I've got a collection of machines that I'd like to use to experiment/learn about LANs but want to be on the right page. From what I understand, the latest airport base station (Extreme?) will accept machines equipped with the latest and including the original cards, but setting up a network with the original bases (Graphite/Snow) will not allow clients equipped with the later cards (Extreme). Is this correct? Also, I'd like to mix in PC machines into the LAN. Wouldn't it be a mistake to get the earlier base stations (Graphite/Snow) if I plan on future clients with Express cards? But, having an Express station would allow both Express and orginal airport equipped machines. Correct? There's backward compatibility with the Express. I have two Mac towers with original airport cards, one laptop equipped with original. I suppose if I just wanted to keep the LAN with only machines equipped with original cards, the earlier base stations would be fine. But this would liimit my ability to allow addition of future machines equipped with the current cards. Yes? I hope I haven't confused anyone. Just don't want to plunk down my hard earned money on the wrong base station.
Thanx in advance.

Hi Folks,
I've got a collection of machines that I'd like to
use to experiment/learn about LANs but want to be on
the right page. From what I understand, the latest
airport base station (Extreme?) will accept machines
equipped with the latest and including the original
cards, but setting up a network with the original
bases (Graphite/Snow) will not allow clients equipped
with the later cards (Extreme). Is this correct?
No, 802.11g (Extreme) clients can connect to an original Apple base station (802.11b). 802.11g is backward compatible.
Also, I'd like to mix in PC machines into the LAN.
PCs can connect to Airport networks.
Wouldn't it be a mistake to get the earlier base
stations (Graphite/Snow) if I plan on future clients
with Express cards?
You mean Extreme cards, and the faster 802.11g is better than 802.11b for internal file transfers, but if you have a slow internet connection and that is what you are just using then 802.11b is usually sufficient.
Personally I would get an 802.11g base station.
But, having an Express station
would allow both Express and orginal airport
equipped machines. Correct?
Yes
There's backward
compatibility with the Express. I have two Mac
towers with original airport cards, one laptop
equipped with original. I suppose if I just wanted
to keep the LAN with only machines equipped with
original cards, the earlier base stations would be
fine.
There would be no speed benefit to your 802.11b clients in having an 802.11g base station. However you would be able to use WPA which is more secure than WEP, so is certainly something to think about.
But this would liimit my ability to allow
addition of future machines equipped with the
current cards. Yes?
No, Extreme (802.11g) clients will be able to connect to an 802.11b base station.
iFelix

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