Airport Extreme or Droboshare to connect Drobo with Aperture wirelessly

I use a Drobo as my primary storage for referenced image files and use my Macbook Pro to store the library.
I'm frequently not able to work in my office and want to be able to put the Drobo on the network in my office (upstairs), connect it to my wireless network and continue to use Aperture anywhere in the house.
I have tried to connect my Drobo (and a normal USB2 hard disk) via my Airport Extreme base station (after installing all of the latest updates a couple of days ago) and Drobo does work with that - including Time Machine.
However, when I open Aperture when I'm using Drobo (or USB2 drive) as an airport disk, the referenced files on the Drobo (even though Drobo is mounted) all appear as off line. I am assuming this is because the reference to the files is slightly different (ie Airport Disk/Drobo/Images instead of /Drobo/Images).
So that rules out the AEBS?
Has anyone got experience with DroboShare to network a Drobo AND use an existing referenced file structure? I want to be able to use the Drobo connected when in the office, but switch to DroboShare when I'm not and therefore the Drobo must be treated as the same path. Because Drobo is on the network I can only assume that the path changes and therefore this wouldn't be possible?
Does anyone have any positive experience with getting an existing (without having to move all the masters to a new path) referenced library to work with either an AEBS or a Droboshare?
If I can't use Drobo in this way, Droboshare is a pointless exercise for me and I've tried my best to get the AEBS to work but the path change is screwing things up. If anyone has managed to get Aperture to work with the AEBS I'm all ears!
Thanks

Neither the DroboShare or the Airport Extreme will allow the Drobo to work with an existing referenced file structure unfortunately, as Aperture maps the path against each file as a fixed path rather than relative (IMO), so the inclusion of the network component places the Drobo on a different point in the path and Aperture simply looks at each path reference and says 'I can't find it' instead of being able to figure out that the drive is simply at a different point and find each file from there.
Looks like Apple fixed this issue with Time Machine as an existing time machine backup can now be referenced over a network when tied to an Airport Extreme. When you connect the drive for the first time it takes time machine a while to figure out where the backup is, but it does find it automatically eventually. So it is really just up to them whether they change the code or not in Aperture to allow users to switch from network to local connection.
The only option right now is to start from scratch with a referenced structure on a networked Drobo (or USB2 drive). That would of course work fine if you accessed the referenced files in Aperture over the network, but if you tried to access them with a direct connection you'd most likely run into the same difficulty.
In addition, there are no guarantees that when you are relocating masters or performing vault backups over a wireless connection or wired network that the files going across the network are actually being checked in at the other end. This was the same issue with Time Machine and that's why Apple locked USB2 drives out of Time Machine when you connected to an AEBS. Apple would have to ensure that the code not only referenced files correctly over a network but also ensure that files being written over the network (more specifically network packets) are checked in correctly at the other end.
Head over to http://apertureprofessional.com/showthread.php?t=13393 for this same topic (with more information)

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Hi all,
I have just purchased the Airport Extreme and have it connected to my ADSL router. All works fine but if the airport looses power (as the household power went off momentarily today) then once it powers back up it will not connect to the internet unless I unplug the USB hub connected to it first.
Anyone with similar experiences?
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I would contact Apple to take advantage of your free 90 days of tech support by phone since your product is "new." Let them tell you what the problem is.
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I have an older Airport Extreme (disc shaped) that we use with my wife's PowerBook (OS 10.5.8) and my MacBook Pro (OS 10.9.4). We currently only have Airport Utility on her Mac, but I want to upgrade the utility so I can use it on mine.

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if I update the Airport to the latest version, and "control" it with my MacBook Pro, will the older G4 still be able to use the signal from the new Airport?
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ANOTHER Airport Extreme base station dropping connections

I think my network connectivity problems predate the latest Airport software update by a few days.
Our MacBook Pro's randomly drop an Airport connection when they are near a secondary access point operated in Bridged Mode.
My one-year-old Airport Extreme/Time Capsule had been working fine in 2.4GHz b/g/n mode with a gigabit switch and a link to a Comcast cable modem, all set up in the northwest corner of the house. I decided to replace it with a new, dual-band Airport Extreme/Time Capsule so that we could separately operate a faster 5GHz "n" network for modern notebooks along with the 2.4GHZ b/g/n network for older notebooks and iPhones.
We substituted the new Airport Extreme/Time Capsule for the old model and it now serves IP addresses to 5GHZ network devices. The old Time Capsule was moved to a new location in the southeast corner of the house, connected to the network via Cat 6 Ethernet, and also set it up to join the same 5GHz wireless "n" network in Bridge Mode -- it is an access point, but not serving DHCP addresses.
Now, whenever a laptop is near that device, it accesses the LAN through that Airport Extreme's 5GHz WIFi connection. The problem is this: every few hours (though sometimes sooner - its random), our MacBook Pro's lose their network and Internet connections (not simultaneously though). This only happens if the laptops are physically closest to the older, Bridged wireless access point. It can happen in the middle of Web surfing and always, when they wake from sleep. It NEVER happens if the notebooks are physically closer to the new Airport Extreme (and hitting it's 5GHz signal) and the iPhones NEVER lose their Internet connection to the separate 2.4GHz b/g/n network.
When it does happen, we have to Restart the notebooks to re-establish an Internet connection, though I suppose restarting the Airport Extreme/Time Capsule also might re-establish the connection. Sometimes, I can just move my laptop back to the northwest corner where the main Airport Extreme/Time Capsule is located and get right back online through that access point. But usually, I just sit in the back room, restart and rejoin the network through the secondary, wireless access point. Turning off/on Airport (at the MacBooks) accomplishes nothing and neither does Network Diagnostics.
This affects two new, MacBook Pro "n" laptops running 10.5.8, but does not affect the iPhones. So, it only seems to be a 5GHz issue. I don't think it's RF interference because I've tried three different 5 GHz channels. I've also tried reducing the secondary Airport Extreme's transmission power to 50% and, more recently 25%, to no avail.
This morning, it started happening again, so I finally used the Airport Utility to turn off the Wireless Mode of the secondary device for my next test (thanks to the Ethernet connections, it's still visible on the wireless network). We'll see if this solves the wireless connectivity problem.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? I wonder if it is some odd, configuration issue.

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Next, the AirPort Express (AX) must be the newer "n" version of the product. Check the label on the side of the AX for the model number. This needs to be Model No A 1264.
Next, using AirPort Utility on your PC, select the AEBS and click Manual Setup. Then click the Wireless tab below the icons. Make sure that a check mark is entered next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Then check the AX using Manual Setup. Click the Wireless tab to check that the setting for Wireless Mode is "Extend a wireless network" and that there is a check mark next to "Allow wireless clients"
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Extended AirPort Extreme Network Unable to Connect

I have two AirPort Extremes. One was set up in the basement directly to my network and is working fine. The other AirPort Extreme was set up upstairs, plugged into the same hub as the downstairs Extreme, and I followed the default setup procedure on my MacBook Pro to extend the downstairs wireless network via ethernet. You can connect to the downstairs Extreme via wireless devices no problem, but when you move upstairs into the range of the Extreme on that level, you are unable to attach to the wireless network. I can see the network, but when attempting to attach via the MacBook, the wireless indicator works for a while, then displays a "!" with no other message. On an iPhone, you are not able to connect at all.
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The router in this home is a Luxul XBR-2300. The AirPort Extremes are plugged into a switch that the router is also plugged in to. Both AirPort Extremes have access to the network/internet-- if you plug a device directly to the AirPort Extreme it can get to the internet via the hardwired connection.
I've been working on this problem for two days, have returned one of the AirPort Extremes thinking it was defective, but I have the same problem.
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If both AirPort Extreme base stations are interconnected by Ethernet they should be configured for a "roaming" network. They are interconnected by Ethernet and are configured for a "roaming" network.
Setup both AirPort Extreme base stations as bridges. Network tab > Router Mode: Off (Bridge Mode). This is how they are both set up.
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Connect to the same subnet of the Ethernet network. They are on the same switch. They are on the same subnet.
Provide a unique Base Station Name. They have unique names.
The Network Name (SSID) should be identical. They have the same SSID, exactly.
If using security, use the same security type (WEP, WPA, etc.) and password. Note: It is highly recommended that you use WPA2 Personal for best bandwidth performance. They are both using WPA2.
Make sure that the channel is set at least three channels apart from the next base station to prevent Wi-Fi interference. Initially the Apple AirPort Utility set both up under "Wireless" settings to "Automatic". Based upon this suggestion, I set the Basement Extreme manually to the first channel choices for 2.4hz and 5.0hz networks. I set the Upstairs Extreme manually to channels at least 3 channels away. NO CHANGE to the problem.
The following are the basic setup steps: I have done the following in an attempt to fix the problem, after changing the wireless channels on both units manually:
Power all the base stations down. Done.
Perform a "factory default" reset on each of the base stations. Note: You may have to perform this more than once to make sure they "stick." Done. Confirmed with rapidly flashing light on both.
Connect one Ethernet cable between the Ethernet switch to the (circle of dots) port on the basement Extreme. Connect a second Ethernet cable between the switch and the WAN port of the upstairs Extreme.
Basement Extreme: Modem-->Router-->Switch-->Basement Extreme WAN Port
Upstairs Extreme: Basement Extreme LAN Port-->Upstairs Extreme WAN Port (Prior to this change they were both plugged in to the switch via the WAN port)
Power up just the basement Extreme. Done.
Set Network Mode option to: Create a wireless network. Done. Set the Router Mode to: Off (Bridge Mode). Done. Verify that you can get Internet connectivity with network clients either by wireless or by wire connections to the basement Extreme. Verified-- can connect with no problems. NOTE: I set this up using the iPhone AirPort Utility using default settings to create a network. I then verified these settings on the MacBook Pro in the AirPort Utility. I manually set channels based upon your recommendation to set them to insure no interference, restarted, and verified that I can connect.
Power up the upstairs Extreme. Use the AirPort Utility to select it. Done. Verify that this unit has not been plugged in after reset until now. NOTE: It now shows in the AirPort Utility Network Diagram that the Basement AirPort Extreme is connected to the Internet, and the Upstairs Extreme is plugged into the Basement Extreme. Before, both were shown connecting to the Internet.
Configure the upstairs Extreme with the Network Mode option set to: Create a wireless network. (Note: Do NOT set it to "Extend a wireless network." Verified. Was set up correctly by default.
Set the Wireless Network Name, Wireless Security, & Wireless Password options to be exactly the same as that used for the basement Extreme. Verified.
Set the Router Mode to: Off (Bridge Mode). Verified. Was set up correctly by default.
Select Update and allow the upstairs Extreme to restart. Extra Step: Manually set the channel to be 3 away from Downstairs Extreme based on initial recommendation, above. Restarted the Upstairs Extreme.
Once restarted verify that you can roam with a wireless laptop or iOS device between base stations and still gain Internet access. Problem not solved.
I followed everything above exactly. Neither my MacBook Pro nor my iPhone can connect to the "Apple Network" out of range of the Basement Extreme. The network line connecting the Extremes is verified and is a good line.
Again, thank you for the very detailed response. I had pretty much tried all of the above other than plugging the Upstairs Extreme WAN directly to the Basement Extreme LAN Port and manually setting channels on both. Did I screw anything up based upon what you wrote? Any other suggestions?
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I have Comcast cable broadband. I connect that to a Linksys router for
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2) Should I be connecting it to the LAN port since it's coming out of
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Can I prevent an AirPort Extreme from "discovering " and connecting to other Airport devices on the same network ?

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What is the AirPort Extreme doing now that you don't want it to do? What does it "discover"? How is it connecting other devices on the same network?

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I had this problem a couple of days ago. Near as I can figure, the drive drops off line periodically. Many people are having this issue. On your Mac, go to finder and see if the MyCloud shows up. Mine didn't last time I had a problem. I ended up unplugging the drive, letting it sit for a couple of minutes, and then plugged it back in. I also disconnected the ethernet cable(not sure if this was necessary). After a few minutes, it showed up in finder. I use Time Machine and Time Machine editor to perform backups daily. I know it's dropped off line if my Mac hasn't backed up in the last couple of days. If it's currently online, and was just unavailable when the Time Machine attempted a backup, I just let it go.
I have the Airport Extreme base station as well. I have been unsuccessful in port frowarding with this thing. I always have a Relay Connection on the Settings-General-Cloud access portion of the My Cloud dashboard. It seems to work fine, and overcoming this issue has dropped to the bottom of my To Do list. As long as Remote Access is on, and it shows connected(Relay or otherwise), you should be good to go. It evidently isn't optimal, but then again neither are my technical abilities.
Hope this helps. I am an average user with average(at best) computer abilities. This is just my average experience. P.S. Moving the drive while it's operating is bad...Mmmkay!
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