Airport Extreme question from a possible buyer....

Hey all!
I was thinking about buying an Airport Extreme so I can wirelessly backup to my hard drive for my macbook. The price I can deal with, don't worry, but here is my question:
Can I use the Airport Extreme with my current router?
Currently, I am using a BT Home Hub (v1.0) with a belkin router (with the DHCP not set to give out ip addresses) which extends my network (perfectly) and gives out the same ip addresses the Home Hub does.
Can I replace the Belkin Router with an Airport Extreme? This is so I can extend the network and share my hard drive so that all mac users in my house can backup.
For this to work, I need to be able to disable DHCP on the Airport Extreme and insert my LAN ethernet cable into the WAN port (is that right??) and hopefully the Airport Extreme will send out the same network that the Home Hub does.
-- Can I do this? --
Reason I am asking is because I don't want to fork out loads of money on an Airport Extreme, only to find out it doesn't work and be really disappointed and have wasted £120!!
Thanks, James

Hi James,
I use a similar setup, usually without any problem. The last week has been a different story though, both in function and in Apple's responsiveness to problems. I would recommend reading the thread here before making the purchase. At the very least, it would be a good idea to wait until Apple acknowledges the problem and brings a fix forward.

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sliderski wrote:
I have got a new AEn base (firmware 7.2.1). I seem unable to get an IP address using DHCP from the cable modem
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