Airport Extreme, single band crashes, TimeMachine & iTunes 7.4.2 & 7.4.1

Hi,
I've been getting random crashes on my Single Band APE. It's running v7.4.2, also rolled back to V7.4.1 with the same problem. 17" MacBook Pro (early 2009 unibody), OS X 10.6.2.
Here is my setup. I'm using the APE to extend an existing network. I've two disk drives connected via a USB hub. One is setup as a TimeMachine drive, the other is just storage, it also has my iTunes music library. Regardless of whether I'm connected via WiFi (n) or Ethernet, when playing music using iTunes and when TimeMachine cuts in, I always get a freeze. Sometimes the whole APE will lock-up, the light stays GREEN and it drops everything, WiFi and ethernet connections alike. This then requires a power cycle to kick it back into life. I use this setup to distribute content within my home, it's only ever crashes with this combination - iTunes & TimeMachine.
Help...

1) The network is extended because I have two routers, one for G and one for N, I've only a single band APE. The APE is designed to do this.
I'm just trying to point out that whether extending your network with either a static or dynamic WDS, there will be an overall bandwidth loss. When network traffic is high, there is a potential of "crashing" the network.
2) TimeMachine does work on the APE and has done so for over 18 months now for me, without any problems, only slight network freezing when it kicks in if using WiFi. It may not be fully supported but it does work, albeit with network restrictions. The freezing isn't the problem, the crashes are.
Again, I am only pointing out a potential problem for the crashes. I'm glad you are not experiencing corrupted Time Machine backups in this configuration.
If you read my post, it was about crashing - the freeze during initial TimeMachine backups adds background information to my post.
Yes, thank you, I did read your post. I took the time to try to offer ideas on why you may be experiencing the crashes to help you resolve them.

Similar Messages

  • Configuring WDS w/ Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n & Express 802.11g

    I currently have an Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n Model: A1301 (located downstairs) and an older Airport Express 802.11g Model: A1084 (located upstairs) which I had been using to stream iTunes to my upstairs stereo (which worked flawlessly). Recently a friend of mine recommended that I reconfigure my network to a Wireless Distribution System setup which would allow me to create a remote wireless node which improves my wireless signal strength upstairs, allows an interface to Airplay to play our music from our iPod's/Pad's and also provides an hard-wired Ethernet connection for my newly delivered Network Extender for my cell phone. So I followed the URL: support.apple.com/kb/HT4262 to assist in this conversion and found that I was unable to configure my network as desired. While this documentation is very good, there is one snafu that I worked out that finally allowed a successful setup. Follow the instructions for:
    - Connecting a WDS main base station to the Internet
    - Configuring a WDS main base station
    - Configuring a WDS remote base station (See last line of instructions for the correct WDS Main ID)
    Ensure all Wi-Fi base stations are powered on and allow them time to appear in the AirPort Menu Extra.
    From the AirPort Menu Extra, select an 802.11g Wi-Fi base station to configure as a WDS remote.
    In AirPort Utility, select the WDS remote Wi-Fi base station in the Base Station Chooser, and click Manual Setup.
    Select the AirPort icon from the Toolbar, and click on the Wireless tab.
    From Wireless Mode select Participate in a WDS network.
    Click on the WDS tab.
    From WDS Mode, select WDS remote.
    Enable Allow wireless clients (see the first note below).
    If not already supplied, enter the 2.4Ghz AirPort ID of the WDS main, then click Update.
    There are two Apple ID's for the dual-band Extreme (2.4 & 5.0Ghz). Be sure to use the 2.4Ghz ID which is listed under the "Summary Tab" of the utility. What is confusing is that in the AirPort Utility, when you position the mouse cursor over the graphic of the Extreme on the left-hand side of the GUI, you are presented with a yellow dialog box which displays the 5Ghz ID and this can be misleading especially when you are trying to connect to an older 2.4Ghz Express ...

    My Express is the A1264 802.11n model. My Extreme is the A1354 model.
    The most crucial issue is the the Tivo, because the Premiere only works with Ethernet (I dont' have and wont' buy the upgraded wireless doohickey), but of course I would prefer that the Express also act to extend the signal, and I particularly want it do so using WEP access (or nothing, see below), since I have a second Tivo which ONLY works wirelessly and which ONLY works using WEP, not WPA.
    Since there were so many different issues and needs going on, I was excited about the Dual Band because it meant I could potentially get 5G speeds for my iPad and perhaps the Tivo Premiere connection, while allowing a completely separate band for the OLD Tivo.
    The other option I've been trying out (to accommodate the Tivo2 that can't handle WEP) is having no security, but making the networks hidden.
    A third option I tried to make work was to create a "guest network" for just the Tivo2.
    But what I'm finding out (it's what I always struggle with...networking is a nightmare.) is that if you take one from Column A, Column B disappears, so to speak.
    The way it used to work on the non-dual band Extreme was as I mapped above, and the Tivo2 and my iPad used the wireless signal with no problem while the Express was Ethernet connected to the TivoPremiere, but it did so using WDS, which doesn't even seem to exist as a possibility, forget teh fact that it undermines the speed boost (so I read)
    I've frankly never been able to understand the differences between the various modes and structures, and believe it or not I'm very smart and very comfortable with computers and Macs, having worked on them for 25 years.
    And one of the biggest reasons I've had such a hard time is because of the many times that I have updated after making changes, Airport Utility tells me it worked, but nothing happens and then after too much frustration I end up unplugging and shutting down every single piece of equipment and rebooting everything and then it DOES work. Sometimes. But I can't be doing that every time I make one tweak, I'll go insane!
    And the number of pin-resets I've done on the Express, the Dual band, and even the cable modem would make your head spin!
    So there's my story. Kinda. Does it make any sense? At least in terms of my goals?
    Your help is more appreciated than you can imagine.

  • Airport Extreme Dual-Band Base Station Is excessively slow

    Let me start off by stating this is my first apple support discussion and I have no experience in these forums but rather forums elsewhere.
    My Airport Extreme Dual-Band Base Station is completely updated as of DEC. 30, 2012 running version 7.6.1 and I have the latest airport utility, so bare in mind some of the previous fixes I've Read seem unavailable to my setup
    Our household has 7-13 of the following devices connected in a 24 hour average:
    5-6 iPhones all running iOS 6 (1, iphone 3gs; 2-3, iPhone 4; 2, iPhone 5)
    1 iPad 2 wifi only running iOS 6
    2 MacBook Pro 13" early 2012 models one running mountain lion and the other running lion
    1 mac mini early 2011 model running mountain lion server and is connected outside the network as a public server
    1 Apple TV latest model(1080p) latest updates
    1 LG 47" 1080p 3D TV
    3 blueray players
    2 Windows 7 PC one a laptop and the other a desktop
    1 HP All-In-One Printer
    1 AT&T MyCell Antenna
    My problem is as follows:
    My network is running rather sluggish. the base station is getting at the very minimum good signal strength to all my devices most of them getting great signal, so I doubt it be the result of range. I've tried messing with the channels and radio settings but have yet to find a correct optimal settings. I've tried searching around these forums as well as in other areas and have not found a suitable solution. my apple TV lags and jitters a lot. I have trouble airplay to it because of what I've read elsewhere which is latency issues. I have no clue how to test latency. I have realized that it isn't a matter of noise in the area because noise doesn't pass 15% and signal is optimal in all areas. of where the devices are. I've noticed connecting my server directly gives me 47Mb/s as compared to the Ethernet connection of 32Mb/s so I am clueless as to a solution. I know that with my old router the wifi speeds were outstanding but that router kept disconnecting wifi clients and then reconnecting them. sadly this is happening again with the apple router. last night my iPad would not stay connected and our network had so much lag that I couldn't even load the youtube app let alone a video. also buffering takes an odd amount of time sometimes 3 minutes. for a 30 second video on youtube. I have no guest network active and I have a wpa2/wpa personal encryption set on the network. I could use some serious help. the people of my household have no problem returning the apple router but I think to urge otherwise. if I could get some help in a solution that would be fantastic.
    Thanks in Advance,
    Blaine Miller

    Can you tell us whether your "modem" is a simple device with only one ethernet port or is it a "gateway", which is a combination modem/router with 3-4 ethernet ports?

  • How to get Powerbook G4 12" OSX 10.3.9 to access Airport Extreme Dual Band

    I recently purchased a new MacBook Pro 13" V 10.5.7 and a new Airport Extreme Dual Band.
    Prior I had been using a Powerbook G4 12" OSX 10.3.9 and an older version of the Airport Extreme (old saucer dome shape) and they worked no problem.
    Now I have the new airport Dual band set up. The new MacBook accesses it no problem. The Powerbook will not access for some reason. The Airport ID shows up on airport icon menu on the powerbook, but when I enter the password it will not access. It says wrong password. It is the correct password for the Macbook though?
    How can I get the Powerbook to access it?
    If you need more info please ask and I will provide.

    I had the same problem with dual-band Time Capsule connected to G4 Powermac DP running Leopard and Powerbook G4 667 running 10.3.9.
    After trying many things, I finally ran software update on my Powerbook, then found there is an Airport update 4.2 addressing a password / security compatibility issue.
    Powerbook connected with TC just fine!

  • WDS between AirPort Extreme Dual-Band and old AirPort Express

    I've had a WDS network between two older Airport Express (802.11g version) units for a couple of years, one connected to my DSL-router, and the other one connected to my desktop computer. This way I was able to get my desktop computer on the wireless network.
    Yesterday I decided to upgrade the one connected to my DSL-router to an AirPort Extreme, because I needed the extra Ethernet connectors. Since the new AirPort Extreme Dual-Band has some fancy new features, I decided to go ahead and re-configure it all.
    However, I'm having issues with the Airport Utility for Windows and WDS when I try to add my Express' Apple-ID to the Extreme's list of WDS externals. My Extreme is the unit I've decided to use as a WDS main. When I try to configure the hardware, I get an error saying in Norwegian (as I run Norwegian Windows and Airport Utility) that translates into something like "WDS requires multiple Apple wireless devices. Add at least one WDS peer." in English. That's pretty bizarre, because I just added a WDS external, and it is indeed an Apple product. Just to be sure, I tried with my other Airport Express - same error.
    Now, I've tried to work around this issue by setting up the Express as the WDS main instead, since I don't get the same error message when configuring it. The Extreme was still connected to the DSL-router, but the Express was now set up as a WDS main. This didn't help much. I still got the same error message when setting up the Extreme as a WDS external. And yes, I entered the Airport-ID correctly - I've double and tripple checked them all.
    To me it looks like the Airport Utility either doesn't recognize the Apple-ID as an apple one when configuring the Extreme, or it's seriously bugged when handling the list of WDS externals. But I could be wrong.

    I am having the exact same problem here.
    Any solutions yet?

  • Airport Extreme (Dual band) with Time Capsule (Dual band) Extension problem

    Hi
    I have an airport extreme (dual band) set up with a dual band Time capsule extending the 5ghz band .. however the mac address that the time capsule says its using is the 2.4ghz band.. I only noticed this while setting up static IP addresses on my network... does this mean it is extending the 5ghz network on a 2.4 ghz band? how do i set it up to just extend the 5ghz properly.. any clarification would be appreciated.
    thanks in advance

    See my answer to your other post.

  • Airport Extreme dual band and g WDS

    I currently run an n and g network on two individual single radio airport extremes, both configured as access points. I have a couple remote AP Express units conected to the old g model airport extreme in WDS mode.  I know, don't fix somethig not broken, but I'm thinking about consolidating my wireles base stations  into a single new air port extreme.  Since I have older g model air port express units I understand I need to set up WDS on the new airport extreme g radio/network, but I think I'm hearing that WDS on the g radio will also affect the new airport extreme's n radio network performance.  Sorry but I'm having some difficulty finding any search or google results, most being years old.
    Just wanted to confirm that the n and g radios and networks in the new air port extreme base station are independent....  or not.
    I am currently not running any Lion computers, but several are 10.6.8 and I'm using airport utility 5.5.3.
    Thanks

    So the two aiport extreme radios are not independent?
    They are independent, but if you configure the device for WDS, you will in effect have two "g" wireless bands.
    With WDS settings, the 5 GHz band will only operate on wireless "a" mode.....54 Mbps..... which is the same speed as wireless "g".
    The 2.4 GHz band will operate as if it were a "g" wireless router.
    The bottom line is that while you will have two bands, both will operate at "g" speeds. So, there would be no advantage at all to even having dual band if you use WDS. You gain nothing over what you already have.

  • (How) can I use my Airport Extreme to send FLAC files/iTunes to my stereo?

    (New to this topic.) Is it possible to use my Airport Extreme Base Station to send FLAC and iTunes music files to my (ParaSound P3/A23) stereo system wirelessly?
    If so, how?
    (Not interested in iOS devices doing this - just, effectively, in using my 'mid-2011'  2.7 iMac (10.7.3) as a music server
    TIA!

    Yes, add an AirPort Express and convert FLAC to Apple Lossless and iTunes will be able to play them. VLC will not help since you need iTunes to connect to the AirPort Express and VLC will not work with iTunes.
    There may be an exception to this but I've never tried it. You could try using AirFoil to connect to the AirPort Express and play your FLAC files that way but I have no guarantee it will work. AirFoil seems very flexible so it may prove to be a solution for you.
    I'm not familiar with the Sonos Bridge/Connect system so I cannot comment on the quality. I understand that it is comparable to using the AirPort Express but locking at the price it seems a more expensive solution for your needs.

  • Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme + External Hard Drive for iTunes Library

    Hi, I currently have an Airport Extreme (Gigabit) and am planning on getting a MacBook Pro. What I want to do is keep my iTunes Library on an External Hard Drive and attach it to my AirPort so I can access it anywhere in the house (and world). Now I have been reading various reviews that perhaps a Time Capsule would be better for my needs. I don't plan on using it for Time Machine backups right now, just as a NAS Drive. If anyone has any experience with this I would appreciate the advice.
    Thanks!
    Message was edited by: Mr. Macintosh693

    Hi,
    I have something like that working at the moment. My setup is based on a Mac Mini Core Duo [ OS 10.5.6 ] connected to a Time Capsule. I have configured iTunes to store all archived music on the Time Capsule. I use the Apple Lossless format for my CDs and approx 420 titles have taken approx 130Gb from my 1Tb Capsule. In general this setup works well [ especially the optical out of the Mac ] but be aware of the following potential pitfalls:-
    1. The Time Capsule is a little on the noisy side and depending on the quality of your playback equipment, your choice of music, ambient noise and your values of "satisfactory" you may want to put your Capsule or HDD in another room. This seems OK for generic playback, but in my experience wireless is not a good way to go for streaming content.
    2. iTunes v8.0.2 has a preferences capability to allow you to redirect it's archive to the Time Capsule. However, even if you leave the Capsule switched on it goes into a "sleep" mode. Rip a new CD and iTunes won't tell you this; instead it will silently reconfigure itself to store on your local hard drive and then you're left with the challenge of moving your collection piecemeal if you want it in one location, followed by manually updating iTunes to "point" it to the new location of the music.
    One nice thing about the Capsule is that it does allow other connection types. I have mine networked to a PC running Ubuntu Linux and a music player called Amarok and I am able to stream the Mac-Ripped lossless files and play them over Linux perfectly... Works very well. Apparently you can do this with a Windows client and iTunes for Windows, but I don't run Windows as a matter of principle and can't validate that.
    My 1Tb Time Capsule runs hot, too. Not dangerously so, but hot to the touch. There are no cooling fans, but you might want to think about placement; it needs plenty of fresh air circulating around it.
    For what it's worth [ and I appreciate this is going beyond your question ] I also wanted my setup to be able to store and retrieve recorded TV. I have Elgato EyeTV and a USB Freeview decoder. I quickly learned that despite claims to the contrary the performance of the wireless connection just isn't up to streaming video content. So I went out and purchased a pair of Ethernet-over-mains adapters from Zyxel that are absolutely perfect for the job.
    Yes, the Capsule is a little pricey for what is little more than a Hard Drive in a box, but it does work very well.
    Beware the timeout disconnections and the silently re-configuring iTunes thought...

  • Airport Extreme making PC crash + slow

    I just got the Airport extreme 801.11n and I have a linksys wireless G.
    I got the Airport extreme setup with my wifes PC notebook and my intel Macbook Pro.
    When my wife uses google's Picasa photo program to send pictures over email, it works fine until she sends 6 or more then the laptop crashes. When I hook her up to the Linksys she can send as many as she wants (she just sent 15).
    As some of the other posts indicate, it is noticeably slower.

    Also, have you considered installing an Airport Monitoring widget that will tell you at what speed you are connected to your network at? http://www.apple.com/downloads/.../airtrafficcontrol.html
    Unfortunately AirPortTrafficControl doesn't tell you the real speed. If you are connected to a 802.11g network it just generically states "54 Mbps".

  • Airport Extreme dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi & new XBOX 360 Slim

    I'm having issues getting my new XBOX 360 Slim to connect to my dual-band Airport Extreme when using wireless n. I can get it to connect with n but my connection speed on the 360 drops to 1 or 2 mbps, even though the signal remains strong. I can see the speed drop of the 360 using Airport Utility on my laptop. All other devices on the network are fine. When I switch the 2.4 GHz band on the AE to b/g only, then the connection speed on the 360 shoots up to 54 mbps. That of course neuters the rest of my wireless n devices to g speed since most connect to the 2.4 GHz band due to the limited distance of the 5 GHz band.
    Short of finding a solution, my next step is to try a different router brand. I'd rather stick with Apple, but have had more issues with 2 AE models than all of my other Apple hardware combined.

    I had a three year old XBOX 360 before with a newer external n adapter. I use the 360 to do a lot of streaming video from my computers so the n definitely came in handy. The external n adapter worked great with the AE. Unfortunately that 360 died so I bought one of the new ones as a replacement. They must be using different hardware for their new internal n adapter than their previous external n adapter.
    My first step will be exchanging the new 360 tonight to see if it is isolated to just that machine. If it isn't, I'm going to try a new Logitech router just to see if that makes a difference.
    Again, I can maintain a connection to n just fine with the AE, but the speed is dismal. In g the speed and connection are just fine.
    I have not tried disabling encryption simply because I wouldn't run my router without it.

  • New Airport extreme dual band and older version.

    I purchased a new dual band Airport Extreme base station.
    How can I make use of an older version of the Airport Extreme 802.11n (non dual band) in my network?
    Can I hook the 2 up together to boost up the range or coverage of the network?
    If so, how far apart do they have to be?
    Also, does the main AEBS have to be as close possible to the modem in order to work better? my modem is in the basement in the mecanical room. What would be the best to get the best signal througout my house?

    Hello mike1970. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
    How can I make use of an older version of the Airport Extreme 802.11n (non dual band) in my network?
    Two examples would be: 1) Connect the old AEBSn to the new one by Ethernet, and then, configure them for a "roaming" network. In this type of network allow you to roam with a portable wireless device and still be on the "same" network, and 2) Configure the old AEBSn to extend the wireless range of the newer one in what is called a dynamic WDS. The major difference between a WDS and the roaming configuration is that the two base stations would not need to be interconnected by Ethernet.
    Can I hook the 2 up together to boost up the range or coverage of the network?
    Yes, both only one of the newer AEBSn's wireless radios. Most likely, it would need to be the 2.4 GHz radio as the signal can travel farther and not be impacted by objects ... like walls.
    If so, how far apart do they have to be?
    That would depend on what would be between them. In a room with no Wi-Fi obstacles, you could probably place the second AEBSn 50-75 feet away to boost the signal another 50-75 feet.
    Also, does the main AEBS have to be as close possible to the modem in order to work better?
    No.
    my modem is in the basement in the mecanical room. What would be the best to get the best signal througout my house?
    The best way would be to have the house wired for Ethernet, and then, place a Wireless Access Point (WAP) at each location that you would want wireless coverage.

  • Can AirPort Extrem receive radio stream from iTunes?

    Hi,
    Can AirPort Express receive radio stream from iTunes? I know that files in iTunes can be played, but what about Internet radio?
    Can anyone help?
    Thanks,
    Rico

    If you want to be able to stream any audio source on your Mac or PC, you need an application like Airfoil.
    Rogue Amoeba | Airfoil | Select Your Operating System

  • Extending an existing wireless network using an Airport Extreme (dual band 802.11n)

    Hello,
    I currenlty have a wireless network set up inside my apartment using a Linksys E1000 wifi router.  I would like to extend the network into a second room using my airport extreme.  However, I have tried to set up the airport extreme to extend a network and it tells me that it cannot extend my currently network.  I have already restored my airport extreme to its factory settings (using the reset button on the back of the airport extreme) as I used to use the airport extreme as the main base station in my previous apartment.
    Help please!

    Unfortunately, Apple's "extend a wireless network" function was designed as a proprietary feature that only works with other Apple routers.
    It would be extremely unlikely that it would work with a router from another manufacturer if you are trying to "extend" using wireless only.
    Suggest that you use another Linksys "repeater" or "extender" to insure compatibility with your current router.

  • Airport Extreme and Multiple Expresses with iTunes

    I have an airport extreme base station running a bgn network and six airport expresses connected (three wired and three wireless) to stereo systems throughout the house. They seem to stumble all over themselves with an IP address distribution or something that makes them cut in and out after playing for about 20 minutes. I've tried assigning IP addresses but it doesn't seem to work. I'm guessing that one of the wireless expresses loses signal for a second and that causes all the issues. Any thoughts?

    So the airport extreme is setup and the wireless is going. But when I hook up the airport express, I've plugged it in and when I use airport utility through the desktop which is hardwired connected to the airport extreme, the express does not show up the devices list.
    Can somebody explain to me how the airport express is used to boost the signal of the airport extreme using airport utility within windows vista? thanks!

Maybe you are looking for