Airport extreme slow in feb-2012

With update 7.6 me airport extreme became slow. Worst of all, with this upgrade, I lost my administrator functionality to downgrade the firmware to a good workinf release. Can anybody help?

My download speeds are 40Mbps and have been for over a year. After the firmware 7.6.1 / utility 6.0 update my Airport extreme and airport are under 8Mbps, however my hard wire connections are still at 40Mbps. What gives? Any thoughts Apple gurus or am I going to have to purchase a non-apple wirless router?
Thanks

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I am having problems with my dual-band airport extreme. When connecting to the external internet, I'm seeing high ping responses (>500ms) after about 5-10 minutes of resetting (hard reset) the Extreme and initially seeing 15-30ms response times.
I've tried:
1. Moving the router physcially in the house (no improvement)
2. Trying different channels on both 2.5 and 5 (some, but inconsistent improvement)
3. Multiple hard resets and reconfiguring the Extreme
4. Reinstall the firmware (haven't tried going down in firmware)
5. There are no cordless phones in the house
6. Absolute speed to the internet is strong (above my provider's stated speed)
7. If I connect my Macbook pro directly to the cable router, everything (ping + speed) is great.
8. Seeing slow ping responses both on my MacBook Pro and a separate PC
Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot? Seems like it a problem with the wireless connection and/or interference.
thanks!
Dale

had a 5th gen Extreme that I bought with 7.5 and immediately upgraded to 7.6. Saw the exact issue you described. exchanged it for a 6th gen Extreme, and am experiencing the same behavior again... both with 7.5.2 and 7.6 firmware.
everything is hunky dory when plugged directly into my cable modem.
third time's a charm, hopefully.

Airport Extreme slowing down internet connection to a crawl

Hi,
Can anyone explain this one?
Just this afternoon my internet connection slowed to a crawl. Pages would stall loading and I couldn't even collect emails. There was a connection there. A Google search might take a minute or so but anything else would barely flinch.
So I did a few restarts and complete power downs of all my peripherals, computers and network devices but no joy. I called my broadband provider who did a remote test of my cable modem and confirmed it was responding well.
So I removed the Airport Extreme from the network and connected directly to the modem. All was fine, in fact that is how I am working now. But when connecting the Airport Extreme back in I have this extremely slow connection. I have looked at both the Network preferences and Airport Setup Utility. Both claim the connection is good.
I also have an old G4 in another room. It was switched off during all the goings on this afternoon but I powered it up to see if the same problem persisted. Sure enough it does, as it is also connected via the AE. However, the local connection between computers is just fine.
So how do I resolve this? Why would the AE cause such an internet slowdown?
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Colin

I've had similar symptoms on my network. Here are network details:
Comcast is the ISP
I have an Extreme and an Express set up as a single wireless network.
Extreme is plugged in to the cable modem. Express is an extension of the Extreme.
Devices that are regularly "on network": Mac Mini (G4), MacBook, Mac Pro, 2 TiVO Series 2.
All Macs are running 10.4.10.
Symptom: Over the course of 3-6 weeks, wireless access slows to a crawl for the Intel-based MacBook and MacPro, but not the PowerPC Mini. All web sites, email traffic, etc., for the Intel Macs becomes painful: CNN's home page loads in minutes, not seconds, for example. Unplugging and replugging the Express doesn't do anything. Powering off and on the Extreme resolves the issue. For now. There are no pending firmware updates for the Express or Extreme that I'm aware of.

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If such option won't be available soon, can SCVMM do this on deleting a VM:
1. revert to the latest checkpoint, delete the checkpoint
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3. delete the VM.
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Wired Mac on Airport Extreme slowing down Wireless network?

I have an Airport Extreme 802.11n and a MacBook Pro 15" (unibody). I recently added a MacMini Core 2 duo as an iTunes server, and since it didn't have 802.11n (it's an older one), I shut off the WiFi and ethernet cable'd it to my Airport Extreme. It works great; I can see the Mini in Shared devices from the MacBook Pro, share the screen, and my Apple TV syncs beautifully as well.
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btw I did recently upgrade to the 7.4.1 firmware (at the same time I did the Mini addition… poor science, I know), and so I tried reverting it back to 7.3.2 to see if that made any difference, and it did not.

So I started poking around a bit more this morning, and ended up doing a slew of tests. A LOT of tests. I tested two different portables and the Mini, tested with the Mini off and on, and tested with Safari 3 or 4 (depending on what was on each system) and Firefox 3. I then tested the portable plugged directly into the wire.
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On my other halfs Vista PC its WORSE than dial up.
Im NOT impressed and am thinking of selling it on eBay.....wish I had never bought the piece of c**p now
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Connecting my Mac straight to my cable modem is solving the problem, but it's awkward that the most expensive router in the market is slow as ****.
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This is my first post and I'd appreciate help.
My Apple TV has worked fine for the last few weeks but started playing up last weekend. It now syncs either very slowly or not at all. Have tried every workaround suggested in this forum. Also spent 3 hours on phone with Apple technician this morning who could not diagnose problem (but has gone away to consult internally).
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By current release software I was referring to the AEBS firmware, the Apple TV software and iTunes. You can run the "Check for Updates" tool for each to make sure that they are up to date.
Since you reported the same problem when connected either by Ethernet cable or by wireless that would obviously rule out any wireless problems such as RF interference. The only possibilities left would be that something else is loading down your network or there is a hardware failure somewhere.
If there is a bad component in the AEBS I would expect it to affect your computer as well as the Apple TV. If there is a hardware failure in the Apple TV I would expect it to show up whether syncing, streaming or watching movie trailers or YouTube videos.
One other possibility might be that if you have any anti-virus software on your computer it might slow things down if it is scanning the files while they are syncing or streaming.
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.9) The more I think, the more I think I shouldn't think more.

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Maybe this is self-evident.
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Does the AE have a greater range? Perhaps I don't need the Express to extend.
I live in NYC and there are so many signals in the air. It seems like having the additional airport helps keep me connected.
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The airport express is g technology not n technology, so it will be at least as slow as your old network. Also, I'm not sure but I think the the range will be a bit longer than with the old g system, but does not have the full potential of an n system.
I've set up my new system but none of my machines are n capable. I extended the system using my old expresses. The speed of the system is no greater than what it was before the n.
I bought the system to upgrade my technology because everytime my Applecare runs out, I get a new computer which isn't too far down the road. I've purchased an Apple TV which will also work better with the n technology when I upgrade. It's either buy it now or buy it later. I'm also hoping that some third party like Belkin will develop a PCIX card to provide n technology to those of my computers that aren't currently n capable. I'm sure there is many like me out there.

Airport Extreme Slowing Internet Connection

Hope someone can provide some direction for me!
A few weeks ago I started noticing slowed internet speeds,but thought nothing of it, and attributed the slow down to peak periods. About a week ago was the first time I ran a speed test due to a noticeable depreciation in connection speed. Then, and still today, I’m averaging about 3.4 mbps down / 6 mbps up both wireless and wired with Ethernet cable through the airport extreme. I have Comcast Blast which, until the slowdown, was averaging 20 mbps down / 6 mbps up.
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Here’s the kicker: when my macbook is directly connected tothe modem (removing the airport extreme), I get amazingly fast internet (26mbps down / 6 mbps up).
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Well, I'll see if you can explain this one:
As suggested, I used Airport Utility to switch the Radio Mode from "Automatic" to "802.11a/n - 802b/g." I was unable to find the option to select "802.11n (5) only - 802.11n only (2.4)."
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     Client Side: [ 4] 0.0-60.0 sec 497408 KBytes 67909 Kbits/sec
     Server Side: 0.0-59.7 sec 497408 KBytes 68253 Kbits/sec
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I then discovered that under "Wireless Network Options..." my checked "5GHz Network" had become unchecked. I re-checked this box and connected both server and client computers to this new network and re-ran the test:
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     Server: 0.0-60.1 sec 392192 KBytes 53476 Kbits/sec
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Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
These settings will help ensure maximum performance, security, and reliability when using Wi-Fi.
For more information on this, take a look at this article:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4199
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Will older Airport Express Base Station A-1084 work with new AirPort Extreme? I want to use it as an access point for my ps3 for watching movies and just connectin to Internet.

I am lookin to plug in an older model a-1084 next to my playstation for a dedicated access point to avoid dropping so many connections since I am at the furthest point of my wifi coverage. Will it work or not? It would be connecting through a AirPort Extreme bought in 2011 -2012.

This will work if you plan to connect the AirPort Express using a wired Ethernet connection back to the AirPort Extreme.
But, it won't work if you plan to connect the Express using wireless only. That's because your older version of the Expess does not have a setting to "extend a wireless network", so it's not possible to "extend" the wireless signal using wireless only.
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