Airport Extreme + unpowered USB hub + Lacie Porsche drive = FAIL

This is more a warning than a support question: we've recently lost two (TWO!) Lacie Porsche USB2 drives by connecting them to our Airport Extreme (802.11n) via an unpowered USB hub.
The drives themselves are now unusable (their little lights light up but there's no other signs of life).
I suspect it's the fault of the drive rather than the Airport Extreme, and most people connecting HDs via unpowered hubs simply report that they don't work rather than actively up and die, but it's worth knowing that this is a risk. Hope it saves somebody else the heartache.

its commonsense and risky. tx anyway for your experience.

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The printer was connected using Bonjour and is working fine. The other devices connected to the USB hub aren't getting picked up. They did work at one point, but are no longer viewable from the computers (MAC Book and Windows XP). How can I re-configure the Extreme or my computers so that they'll work again?

DLNA = Digital Living Network Alliance. DLNA works in a Server-Client fashion with the Server providing the means to stream audio/video files to the client. DLNA servers are also called media servers. The AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS), with an attached USB HDD at best, can perform as a media storage device ... not as a server. You would still need a media server (either hardware or software) to perform this role.
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Hi, I've had this same problem now for more than 1 year, and nothing had solved it, until recently. I think I know what the problem is.
It turns out that not all USB 2.0 hard drive enclosures are the same. I had been using "Metalgear Substance II" enclosures for my 500-GB drives, and I had assumed all along that these were fine... I had assumed that one USB 2.0 enclosure was as good as the next USB 2.0 enclosure. WRONG!!!
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A big bright light blinked on in my head regarding my issues and problems with the Apple Airport Extreme Base-station and all of the problems I'd had with multiple drives, the AEBS locking up etc.. All of my issues had been associated with using the el-cheapo Metalgear enclosures.
As soon as I replaced the Metalgear USB boxes with MacAlley boxes, everything started to work great. No more issues with my Airport locking up. None. Problem fixed. Problem solved.
I can only assume that NOT ALL USB 2.0 BOXES ARE THE SAME. USB 2.0 does not mean that the transfer rates will actually be at 480-mbps. Quality matters. DO NOT USE METALGEAR BOXES WITH APPLE EXTREME. There may be other brands with suck just as much. I can vouch for the MacAlley boxes. They work great... and there may be other boxes that work too. There must be some issue with Apple Airport Base Station timing out on slower USB 2.0 crapola equipment... something that causes it to hang.
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I'm having a serious meltdown. I've been at this all day long and I've reviewed SEVERAL, if not all, discussion threads. I've seen my question many times on many threads, but yet to find a solution!
Just got the hub, and I tried today to connect the Belkin USB hub so I could get my external hard drive accessible from my Mac. My external drive worked fine on my PC. I recently moved to Mac.
Printer works with no issue at all, but my external drive does not even list in either the Disk Utility or System Profiler. It just doesn't get recognized. I've tried EVERYTHING...switching ports, connecting directly to my Macbook, restarting, etc., etc., etc. NOTHING.
Anyone have any insight to this? I'm ready to throw in the towel.

Ok I'll try that! Uh oh...now I can't even see the external drive on my PC! I also spent some time looking at the manufacturer's website to see if there's any software I may have downloaded before using the hard drive, but the website is not helpful in that capacity (www.cavalrystorage.com). I don't remember having software when I first started using it. Furthermore, I just looked at paperwork I received when I got the drive back in Nov.06 and it says not to use "the CD if you have Windows", (to install a driver, perhaps?) which of course, I did. But now I can't find what disc I may have gotten with the drive. It also had no specific instructions for a Mac. Although the external drive has wonderful reviews, and says you can use it with a PC or Mac. I hope this helps. I certainly appreciate your help!
I'm starting to think something has gone awry with the external hard drive? I've tried connecting through the hub (my printer works at least!), direct to AirPort, and direct to laptop and nothing.

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Okay I connected a hub to my USB on the airport extreme. Now I can see both hard drives however I get an IP address conflict and the network basically shuts down. Is there something I am missing here?

Try reading the entire conversation, Duane, and you'll realize that I'm fully aware of the fact that he's talking about a USB hub. And let me point out the fact that your misunderstanding makes no sense because even if I had thought he was talking about an ethernet hub, an ethernet hub has no IP address of its own.
His problem is that he gets an error message indicating that an IP that has already been allocated is being used by another device. A USB hub gets no IP nor does a simple USB external drive. Still, when he plugs in the hub that error message pops up. Why? The only explanation I could come up with is that one of the drives he is attaching to the USB hub isn't a standard external USB drive.
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i gotta question.. i was wondering i can add a 4 port
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+How does it work? Just connect the external hard drive to the USB port on the back of your AirPort Extreme and — voilà — all the documents, videos, photos, and other files on the drive instantly become available to anyone on the secure network, Mac and PC users alike. It’s perfect for file sharing, collaborative projects, and more.+
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Hi all,
I have a airport extreme (5g) with a Lacie HDD (2 years old) connected to it in my living room.
Now when i'm busy on my HDD, copying stuff or watching movies, my macbook tells me that teh connection with the HDD is interrupted.
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I have an HP 4500 printer connected to airport extreme with usb. All our portable notebooks print via air but cannot get iPad to be recognized for printing. Do I really have to have one of the other HPs listed?

Rufus Cat-
Even if it was compatible, AirPrint does not work through a USB link, only Ethernet or WiFi.
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Airport Extreme + unpowered USB hub + Lacie Porsche drive = FAIL

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