AirPort Extreme used as a wired/wireless access point at same time?

Can the gigabit ethernet ports (wired connection) on the AirPort Extreme be used at the same time as the wireless-N connection when it is installed to a switch on an existing network as an access point? Will it still broadcast simultaneous Wireless-N dual band signals?
If both are yes, then do you have any other information regarding the cofiguration? Or helpful links that may help me? Thank You.

I have not yet purchased an airport extreme or even tried this. I have an existing network with a simultaneous wireless-N dual band router feeding a main switch. From the main switch I have cat5e wired gigabit connections to 4 PC's then two cat5e cables, each going to a small switch at seperate media centers.
I have one area that I have a single cat5e wire that can not get the wireless signal from the existing router. In addition to the wireless signal problem, I could use a couple extra gigabit ethernet connections to this same area, but can't pull any new cat5's to it.
I was told I needed to install a multi-gigabit-port wireless-N access point or install another switch with a single port wireless-N access point connected to it. As I looked into this, the dedicated wireless-N access points are wireless-N dual band but do not broadcast them simultaneously (it's either/or).
So I was wondering if I would benefit in any way by using the AirPort Extreme instead of the dedicated wireless access point recommended, and if it will give me what I need plus a simultaneous dual band wireless-N connection to the area? I don't know why the IT didn't recommend installing another router like I'm thinking? Don't know if it will even work? If it is a good idea or not? Don't want any conflict or networking problems to have to deal with just because I didn't listen and/or got the wrong item? What do you think?

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I access the internet from Cox cable, then to a Watchguard business class wired router / firewall. I just got an Airport Extreme and I would like to configure it as a wireless access point only. Anything special to do?
Thanks for any assistance.

Hello Mitch Hill. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
To "convert" the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) to a Wireless Access Point, you just need to reconfigure it as a bridge using the AirPort Utility.
o AirPort Utility > Select the AEBSn > Manual Mode > Internet > Internet Connection > Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)

Can I use this as a wireless access point for my network

can I use this as a wireless access point for my network

umm... use what?
A Time Capsule? Sure. It's just like many other wireless base stations. It can run in either bridge or route mode - in bridge mode it's just like an access point linking the wired and wireless networks together.

Using WRT54GR as a Wireless Access Point only

I have a WRT610N as my main router. I want to use an existing WRT54GR purely as a wireless access point and ethernet switch. Any suggestions on how best to do that so I can still access the WRT54GR to make configuration changes? Right now I have the network functionality working by simply not using the Internet port on the WRT54G but by going to 192.168.1.1 I can only get to the WRT610N.

(Restarting this thread).
I made the change you suggested and statically assigned 192.168.1.200 to the WRT54GR. I can reliably access it through this IP address. I connected it to the rest of my network by using one of the 4 switch ports (not the Internet port). I disabled DHCP on it and configured the Wireless settings to be the same (same SSID and Security Settings) as my other wireless router.
What I'm finding is that devices in my house won't assoicate with it. I tried changing the SSID to a different value; devices were able to see the new SSID but when I entered the pasword they told me that no DHCP server could be detected. A wired device that I plugged into another of the 4 switch ports on the WRT54GR was able to pick up an IP address from the main router just fine so I know that basic connectivity is OK.
To achieve what I want (i.e. the WRT54GR just acts as a wireless base station to extend wireless coverage in the house), do I need to connect the WRT54GR to the rest of the network using the Internet port rather than a switch port? If so, what configuration settings do I need to set up so that all the devices can get their IP address from the main router?

Use WRT110 as a wireless access point to connect desktop computer to a WRT160N network.

I am having a problem setting my WRT110 connected to a desktop computer, as an access point to a net broadcast by a WRT160N. The WRT connects to the desktop computer, but does not see the WRT169N network. A laptop with 802.11g sitting next to the desktop is able to link to the WRT160N network, although the signal is weak, but workable. Has anyone any ideas on how to use the WRT110 as as access point rather than a router. I spoke with CISCO technician level 2, and he says it can't be done. CISCO website for WRT110 describes it as three devices in one, one being a wireless access point. CISCO technician says get a WAP, but I think I should be able to use the WRT110. Help appreciated.

Linksys Wireless Routers (WRT...) are simple access points. They don't establish a connection to any other wireless device. They only allow wireless access for clients. That's the definition for an access point: to be a point of access into the LAN for clients. It is a common misconception that a "wireless access point" would always include bridging or repeating capabilities although that is a completely different mode of operation.
What you want is not an access point but a wireless repeater (WRE) or a wireless bridge (WET) or a combination. The Linksys WAPs are versatile wireless devices which can be operated as access point, repeater, and bridge.
Message Edited by gv on 09-11-2008 09:52 AM

How do i set up a wireless access point with ny time capsule

I am using a new Airport Extreme and want to utilize my older TC to create a wireless access point or maybe an aditional router using the same newtwork. What are the steps to set this up?
Thanks
Alamo

You will first need to perform a Factory Default Reset on the Time Capsule.
Resetting an AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule FAQ
Then, temporarily locate it in close proximity (same room or nearby) to the AirPort Extreme.
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click the tab in the upper left hand corner of the AirPort Utility window that reads Other AirPort Base Stations (1), then click the Time Capsule
AirPort Utility will take a moment or two to analyze your network, then announce that the TC will be configured to extend your wireless network.
Enter a name for the TC (you can use the same device name that you used before if you wish) and click Next.
AirPort Utility will take a another minute or two to configure the TC and then tell you that the setup is complete. Click Done
At this point, power down the TC and move it to a location that is approximately half the distance from the AirPort Extreme and the area that needs more wireless coverage.....to give the TC a good strong signal to "extend"
Power up the TC and wait for the green light and then you are all set.

Is there an Airport utility to connect to specific wireless access points?

(Trying the server forum... not getting any bites in the Airport or Tiger areas). It appears that the factory airport cards found in iBooks & PowerBooks do not always connect to the strongest wireless signal in a network with a mixture of Airport Extreme, Airport Graphite and Cisco Aironets. Is there a utility for Panther & Tiger that will allow a user to pick the access point he/she wants to use instead of allowing the card to automatically select? Windows XP shows you all the access points and allows you to select the strongest signal. Here's an example of the problem: an employee with a new PowerBook is sitting 10 feet away from a new Cisco Aironet 802.11 b/g access point, but his PowerBook insists upon using the much weaker signal from an Airport Exteme 802.11 b/g access point from the floor below him. This is one wireless network emitting the same SSID and encryption. What gives?
Thanks in advance!

hmm well i beleaved that a mac wireless card automatically picked the strongest signal,
but can i ask are they both running at G or B all the time, maybe the stronger signal is only available at B so the powerbook picks up the signal from the weeker access point thats available at G.
I thought that the speed, B or G is dependant on what card connects, that if a B card connects to an access point then the whole access point is lower to B speed, maybe this is so, im not sure, so maybe its not only signal strength but speed as well that determines what access point to join.

Using WRT160N as a wireless access point from TP-WR941N

Hi,
I have a TP-WR941N router connected to the internet. I recently bought a WRT160n in the hope that I will be able to use it as an access point to extend the wireless range.
Essentially, I have the router and modem in one apartment, but need to be able to access the internet from another. The setup would look something like this:
|||===Apartment 2======================|||========= Apartment 1 ==================|||
||| [Computer] ))))) ((((( [TP-WR941N] ))))) ||| ((((( [WRT160n] ))))) ((((( [Computer] |||
||| [Modem]----------------------+ | ||| |||
||| [Computer]-----------------------+ ||| |||
|||==================================|||======================================|||
Is this possible? Do I need to use custom firmware or will the WRT160n work with the supplied firmware? What would I need to set up?

WRT160N router can not communicate with another router on a wireless connection.
You will need to run cable between both the routers.
I think you can try third party firmware.

Airport Extreme's compatibility with PC and MacOS AT THE SAME TIME

I have a PC and a Macbook at home and was wondering if anyone could tell me if the Airport Extreme can handle them both at the same time. I know they're compatible separately, but does that mean they're compatible when used together?
thanks!

The Apple computers hook up quite easily to the Airport Extreme base station.
My experience with two Windows computers is that they will connect...but getting them to "speak" to each other can be frustrating if you've enabled WPA2 security in your base station.
No security set in your Airport Extreme base station? No problem...
YMMV

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How can I set up a guest access point with a Time Capsule and an Airport Extreme? I am using a Telus router with the Time Capsule used as a wireless access point (bridge mode). I don't want the guest access point to have access to my network.

How can I set up a guest access point with a Time Capsule and an Airport Extreme? I am using a Telus router with the Time Capsule used as a wireless access point (bridge mode). I don't want the guest access point to have access to my network.

The Guest Network function of the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme cannot be enabled when the device is in Bridge Mode. Unfortunately, with another router...the Telus...upstream on your network, Bridge Mode is indicated as the correct setting for all other routers on the network.
If you can replace the Telus gateway with a simple modem (that performs no routing functions), you should be able to configure either the Time Capsule or the AirPort Extreme....whichever is connected to the modem....to provide a Guest Network.

Can I use my AirPort as a wireless access point?

Can I use my AirPort as a wireless access point? Can I disable DHCP? How? I have model A1143.

Can I use my AirPort as a wireless access point?
Yes, if it connects to your main router using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection. Connect the Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <--> ports on the main router to the WAN (circle of dots) port on the AirPort Extreme.
Can I disable DHCP
Configure the AirPort to operate in Bridge Mode. That will turn off both DHCP and NAT services. If you are using the setup utility on a recent version of the Mac or iPhone/iPad, the utility will automatically set up the AirPort for you in Bridge Mode when it detects another router on the network.
How?
This will depend on what operating system you have your Mac or PC, or whether you want to use an iPhone or iPad for the setup. Let us know on that.
I have model A1143.
This model would be anywhere from 6 to 8 years old depending on when it was originally sold. Please keep in mind that the useful life.....on average.....for a wireless router designed for home use is about 5 years.

How to use Airport Extreme to create a second wireless network with different IP addresses behind an existing modem/router?

Hi,
I have an existing modem/router from my ISP that does DHCP and NAT with base IP 192.168.1.1 distributed in the wireless network. I use this wireless network for our private devices. I could turn off the DHCP server in this first router, but there isn't a separate setting to turn off NAT.
I want to connect my Airport Extreme (4th gen) to this existing router to create a separate wireless network for visiting guests, where IP addresses of 10.0.0.0 etc. are used. So I do not want to use the Airport Extreme in bridge mode, as I would like to keep the devices on the first network 'invisible' for those on the second network. (P.S. when connected in bridge mode, the Airport works well and can distribute a network with a different name from the first. It's just that I would feel more comfortable about our privacy if the Airport were to distribute a different IP range. False security, maybe?)
I've tried doing this by 'Sharing a public IP address' in Airport Utility's Internet tab, leaving TCP/IP's setting to 'via DHCP', setting DHCP addresses to start with 10.0.0.2 up to 200 with all else blank, and not using a standard host nor NAT-PMP in the NAT tab.
When I do this the Airport complains of a 'double NAT issue'. Internet connectivity seems to be OK, but when switching between the two networks on my Mac I get complaints about my IP address being in use by another device intermittently.
Can anyone help in how to get the 'double NAT issue' resolved?
Thanks!

So if someone is connected to the modem/router network they will be able to see the HD I will have put in to the AirPort Extreme?
As I said above.....since the modem/router and AirPort are bridged, devices on the modem/router wireless will be able to "see" devices on the AirPort wireless, and vice versa.....
If they can see the HD connected to the AirPort Extreme, will they be able to access it
Yes, unless you plan to password protect the drive connected to the AirPort Extreme.
or will they still need the password needed to get onto the AirPort Extreme network?
The modem/router and AirPort Extreme are bridged. They are on the same network. All devices are on the same network when the modem/router and AirPort are bridged. Not sure how else that I can say this.
Also, because it is bridged, I shouldn't have any problems accessing the HD I will have connected to the AirPort Extreme from an external location?
Accessing devices from a remote location is never easy....and a topic for a different post/discussion. If you have a "static" Internet IP address from your provider, and have all the details on how to forward ports on your modem/router, you are off to a good start.
Apparently there is some addressing issues because devices can be seen as "Double IP" because the modem/router would have allocated IP's as well as the AirPort allocating IP's thus making connections slower until resolved
When you "bridge", all IP addresses are issued by one device. There will be no conflicts on the network, since they are bridged.
Once again, in very simple terms, you have two doors (access points) that open into the same room (network). One "door" is the modem/router and the other "door" is the AirPort Extreme. They are on the same network....("room") because they are bridged.

Can I disable my Verizon Fios Router Wireless radio, connect it to a switch and use my airport express as my wireless access point connected to an in wall ethernet port?

Here's the deal. I have a Verizon Fios MI424WR router. My house has CAT5 throughout the house. The media panel is located in the garage. I want to take the Verizon Fios Router and cannot it in the media panel so I can connect a switch to it, that way, all my CAT5 can fire throughout the house. Verizon being Verizon decided to connect the router directly in the office.
Can I go this route (Router in media panel, switch cross connect to it) and use Airport Express, connected to one of the in-wall CAT5 ports in my house and then set it up as my wireless access point to provide wifi to my portable devices (iPad, iPhone, Macbook)? Is this possible? Will Airport Express comminicate with my verizon router via ethernet in-wall? Do I have to turn off the wireless radio in the Verizon router? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

That is right, by hard wired I was just making clear wired vs wireless attachment. AirPort family of devices will only act in a repeater mode with their own family members, not FiOS routers. they have to be wired to work.
There are some useful docs you can download from Apple, Support, Manuals, Peripherals, AirPort (just follow thos links from the Support button on the top bar):
Apple AirPort Networks
Designing AirPort Networks
AirPort Express Setup Guide
The last has a diagram of what you are trying to do, though without the house wiring, etc., but the basic principle.

How do I use Airport Extreme to act as a wireless receiver for a Mac Pro?

Hello -
I'm trying to use an Airport Extreme (1st Generation) as a wireless receiver for a Mac Pro but I can't figure out how. My main modem / wireless router (non-Apple) is upstairs. My Mac Pro is down stairs. I'm looking to get internet connection for that Mac Pro downstairs. Is it possible to use the Airport Extreme to connect the Mac Pro to the wireless internet provided by my wireless router?
Thanks for the help.
Nathan

Is it possible to use the Airport Extreme to connect the Mac Pro to the wireless internet provided by my wireless router?
Unfortunately, Apple designed their routers to work with other Apple routers. It would be extremely unilikely that the AirPort Exteme could be configured to work with a router from another manufacturer.
The AirPort Extreme would need to be configured to "Extend a wireless network", but an error message is almost surely to occur when you try this.
There are other alternatives, but they would involve more hardware. Post back if you are interested.

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