Airport Extreme wired AND extend network - Need Input

I just bought 2 Air Port Extreme units (the latest 5th generation). I'd like to use them in the following configuration:
1. Unit 1 connected to my cable modem, providing wireless service and wired to a switch which distributes the connectivity to a few other places in my house via ethernet cable.
2. Unit 2 on the opposite side of the house, extending the wireless signal from Unit 1, and hardwired to the ethernet in the house. Then several other items plugged into Unit 2 for connectivity.
Problem is, I seem to have 1 of 2 choices:
1. Configure Unit 2 in bridge mode. Hardwire to network works and connectivity works, but there is no wireless turned on, hence no wireless extension.
2. Configure Unit 2 to Extend Network. Wireless is extended, and works fine. Items can be plugged into Unit 2 and get connectivity, but I cannot connect Unit 2 to the wired network.
Am I right that I can't get what I want - Unit 2 wired into the internal ethernet network AND extending the wireless network from Unit 1?

Connect them in a "Roaming" network which is the best wireless network available.
Roaming Network (Ethernet-connected Wi-Fi base stations)
For 802.11n Wi-Fi base stations, creating a roaming network is by far the best choice. This will provide the best throughput between the base stations and your Wi-Fi devices.
This set up requires that your Wi-Fi base stations are connected via Ethernet.
The primary base station provides DHCP Services, while the extended base station will be configured to use bridge mode.
All Wi-Fi base stations within the roaming network should use the same passwords, security type (Open/WEP/WPA), and network name (SSID).
These would all use the same "Create a wireless network", same password, same network name, same security, etc.....
Sounds like you can do this with all the cables you have througout the house....
You would not use "Join", "Extend", or "Bridge"..... You would choose "Create a wireless network" on all the base stations.......

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I have both a simultaneous dual band and a regular dual band airport extreme on an extended network will the 5ghz work at its full potential if its the one that is extending the network?

I have a A1143 model Airport extreme with dual band capabilities but not simultaneous, i'd like that to run on the 2.4ghz band, while i have a A1408 model airport extreme as the "extender" but i want to make sure that even though im running the 2.4 and the newer model is extendeding it, my simulataneous dual band will still work to its full potential (ie: 300mbs i think is the max for the 5ghz)..?
notes: no i can't use the newer model as the primary and the older model as the extender.

I am assuming that your simultaneously dual-band Extreme is using the same Network Name for both radios. If that is the case, and depending on the distance between AirPorts, the extending Extreme is most likely just extending the 2.4 GHz radio. That would leave the 5 GHz wireless network basically "untouched."

How to add old airport extreme 11g to new airport extreme 11n to extend network?

I am trying to use my old Airport Extreme 11g to extend my wireless network from my newer Airport Extreme 11n. Are they compatible?

They are, but you may want to think twice before using this approach. The reasons are: 1) The extended network will only operate in the 802.11g Radio Mode, and 2) The overall bandwidth will be reduced by half for each base station added. Since this will be a "g" network, you'd be getting around 25-27 Mbps maximum of bandwidth.
If you still would like to pursue this, please check out the following Apple Support article for the details.

Airport Extreme 802.11ac extending network

I have 2 new Airport Extremes with 802.11ac capability. I know that the best way to use the two to extend my network is to place one in bridge mode and connect the two via ethernet cable. I would like to bridge them wirelessly but I want to make sure its via 802.11ac and not b/g or n. Is there anyway to do this? How can I determine what type of wireless connection exists between the two.

What you are telling us is that the AirPort Extreme that your friend lent to you was located where it could receive a good, strong signal from the "main" AirPort.
If you locate the AirPort Extreme such that the signal has to go through several walls, the stronger 2.4 GHz signal will likely be picked up by the "extending" AirPort, since the 5 GHz signals.....which is where the "ac" signals operate.....are quite a bit weaker than 2.4 GHz signals.
When I test here, with the signal having to pass through one wall, I can usually get the extending Extreme to pick up enough of the 5 GHz signal to extend "ac". After the signal passes through 2 walls, no way that I can get "ac" to extend, since the 2.4 GHz signals are much stronger at that location.
The only way that I could find to reliably extend the "ac" signal throughout the house was connect the AirPorts using permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection. Speeds improved as well when I did this.
If you can make wireless work, that's great, but things will be even better if you can connect the AirPorts using Ethernet. Here is what Apple says about that in their support document on extending.
In the case of a wirelessly extended network, throughput may be reduced to less than 60 percent of that of a single device. The general rule is to keep the Wi-Fi network as simple as possible. You can accomplish this by using the minimum number of Wi-Fi base stations required to service the physical network area and by using Ethernet wherever possible.
Extending the range of your Wi-Fi network by connecting Wi-Fi base stations together using Ethernet is always the best option, and will provide the best throughput.
Wi-Fi base stations: Extending the range of your wireless network by adding additional Wi-Fi base stations - Apple Suppo…

Windows XP laptop can't connect to Airport Extreme used to extend network.

Have a time capsule for main wireless. PC works fine connecting to it. Have added Airport Extreme to extend network. The mac sees it fine and the PC can connect to it via airport utility but won't connect as wireless and the internet. Running WPA2. Have the latest firmware in each. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for clarifying. If you don't mind, let's double-check your extended-network setup configuration:
o Open AirPort Utility and select the Time Capsule (TC), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then, click Wireless.
o Verify that both “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu and “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox are selected.
o Next, select the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Verify that “Extend a wireless network” has been selected from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu. Also verify that the correct Network Name is shown for the network you want the AEBSn to extend.
Do your settings match these?

Airport Extreme used to extend network malfunctioning

For several years I have had a modem with a current generation AE used for wireless and an older AE used to extend that wireless network. The configuration that has worked for me has been to set the first AE in bridge mode and use the second to extend the first AE. All are connected via ethernet. It has always worked...until recently.
I found that when I unplug both my AEs and turn the wireless portion of my modem on to help with testing (it was usually off), my problems (drastic latency, drops, etc...) went away. The modem alone seems to work as it should. I decided to set up my network from scratch to see if that would help. It has not and I wanted to get some expert advice.
Here are my steps and the issues.
1. I shut everything down and only turn the modem back on. I test the signal via the wireless and it works fine every time.
2. I reset the current generation AE and begin to set it up. I configure the AE to be in bridge mode. As soon as the modem updates, the network has gone down the tubes - nothing works. Internet access is poor or unavailable from the AE and modem. If I unplug the AE, I'm back up and running from the modem with no issues.
3. I am not even trying to use the 2nd
Current AE firmware is 6.3.4
MBP release 10.10.2
Any help would be appreciated?

You should be using the setup "wizard" to configure the AirPort Extreme. Are you doing this? You should not have to set up the AirPort in Bridge Mode....the setup utility will do that for you automatically, assuming that everything is working.
Try the setup again using the "wizard". If you are still having problems after a few tries, then try the "other" AirPort Extreme temporarily.
If the "other" AirPort works, you may have a defective AirPort Extreme.

HT4262 Airport Extreme "Snow" to "Extend Network" (rather than WDS)

Can I use "extend" rather than "WDS" to increase wireless coverage on the "Snow Dome" Wireless G version of airport Extreme?
I see this option for the new airport Extreme base stations that have 802.11 N.
I DON'T see this option for the new airport Extreme base stations that have 802.11 N.
I want to extend my ATT U-Verse wireless network.
I want to extend my friend's wireless network (Non-ATT / unknown smaller provider)

Can I use "extend" rather than "WDS" to increase wireless coverage on the "Snow Dome" Wireless G version of airport Extreme?
No, the "extend" feature was introduced in 802.11"n" routers. You have an older 802.11 "b/g" device which is not compatible with the "extend" feature.
I want to extend my ATT U-Verse wireless network.
ATT U-Verse routers are not compatible with Apple products if you are trying to "extend" using wireless only.
I see this option for the new airport Extreme base stations that have 802.11 N.
Correct
I DON'T see this option for the new airport Extreme base stations that have 802.11 N.
I'm guessing that you meant to say.........Extreme base stations that are 802.11"b/g" only....and not N as you mentioned. As mentioned above, this older version of the Apple router does not have a setting to "Extend a wireless network"
I want to extend my friend's wireless network (Non-ATT / unknown smaller provider)
Apple's "extend" feature will only work with other Apple 802.11n routers, if you are trying to "extend" using wireless only.

Airport Extreme dual band extended network, 1 airport drops off

Greetings,
I have 2 brand new airport extreme base station purchased (2-2011)
I setup them up correctly and it functions fine for about an hour or two, then the extended airport (the one not connected to my LAN via ethernet) drops off the grid. I can't ping it (Statically assigned IP) and Airport Utility can't find it. iStumbler reports it's still up for an additional 10 minutes. The light is steadily flashing. If I reboot either one of the airport extremes it all comes back up automatically, however only for a few hours. I tried this with firmware 7.5.2 and 7.5.1 with the same results. I also reset both to factory defaults and re-configured once again. same results?
Thoughts?
LJS

Hello,
Have you resolve your problem?
in airport utility - Internet - DHCP - DHCP Lease what is the length of the lease ?

Airport extreme wired AND wireless at the same time?

Very sorry for this newbie question. Can i have my iMac wired to my computer with ethernet and wireless at the same time?
If so, what ports to i plug what into?
My guess is modem-wan port on extreme and a cable going wired from the ethernet port on the extreme to the iMac?
Do i need to do any configuring?
Thanks!

The operatibe word here is EXPRESS
To the best of my knowledge the ethernet port on the express is for ethernet IN not out
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/AirPortExpressSetupGuide.pdf The pertinent diagrams are like page 20 - 25
Now you can actually do what you are talking about with an extreme.. an extreme can, in theorey operate as an remote/relay taking incoming signal giving you one - four out bound ethernet ports
that info can be found in the manual on setting up a WDS
the only thing to remember is .. the weakest leg controls.. if your wireless signal to the relay is poor. any thing using the relay for access will also be poor
I have found out the hard way about that
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Airport Extreme wired to existing network

Henry B:
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Did all you suggested. However how do I find the new USB harddrive on the network. I cannot find it.
By the way thank you for all your help today. This is why I would never go back to brand X !!

A suggestion... You are making it extremely difficult for Henry or anyone else to help you. Stop starting new threads. Instead reply to posts in one thread. That way Henry or anyone else can quickly scan through, see what was suggested, what was tried, and perhaps come up with some new suggestion.

Airport Express extending network needs to be restarted daily

I'm having a really annoying problem with my Airport network. Here's the configuration:
Den: Latest generation simultaneous Dual-Band Airport Extreme
Living Room: older 802.11g Airport Express used only for AirPlay
Office: older 802.11n Airport Express wired to the Airport Extreme via ethernet, extending network
Hallway: 802.11n Airport Express wirelessly joining and extending network
Bedroom: Latest generation simultaneous Dual-Band Airport Express wirelessly joining and extending network
I have an older house which is not terribly big but the radio-opaque walls make it difficult to propogate wireless, thus the need for so many units.
It all works pretty well except for my bedroom Airport Express (simultaneous Dual-Band). On a daily basis it will lose connection with the network or go so painfull slowly that it's pointless. The only solution is to do a reboot of the unit which works temporarily (good connection / good speeds) My son likes to watch Roku in our bedroom and that Roku uses the WiFi that the Airport Express should provide. Needless to say troubleshooting wifi when your 3 year old is crying because he can't get 30 seconds of streaming before the signal craps out is not fun. Anybody have any suggestions???

"Hard reset" the bedroom Extreme to preclude the possibility that some corrupted internal parameter is limiting its performance. Consider doing that with all of them. They will subsequently need to be reconfigured.
Configure the den Extreme to provide a unique name for its 5 GHz network, and ensure all the devices capable of using it are using it, and not 2.4 GHz. Find out what your Roku is capable of using.
The key to solving problems, if your challenging requirements are solvable, is to start with as simple an installation as possible, then progressively add to it. Find out the maximum usable range of your den's Extreme in both 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, then position any devices used to "wirelessly extend" its signal roughly half the distance to that Extreme - not a different base station. The ideal location for the Roku's Express may not necessarily be in the bedroom.
Run speed tests each time and make sure you are not trying to "extend" a weak signal. "Extending" a weak signal makes it stronger, but no faster that what it receives.
That's all you can do.
... I thought "N" networks minimized that problem.
You're right about that.
The thing is I get decent wireless reception in the bedroom WITHOUT the express plugged in.
I wonder if those devices are really using the Express you think they are. That's the problem with multiple base stations. There are ways of addressing this question but not with the current AirPort Utility version.

Can't Connect to Internet using AirPort Extreme Card and DLink Router

I have tried just about everything, but I can't seem to connect my MAC OS X 10.3.9 to the internet. I am using the Airport Extreme Card and no networks show up. I am trying to connect to my DLink router. I was told by DLink that it is compatible with AirPort Extreme cards, but the guys at Best Buy were unable to connect to their wireless routers, other than their Mac Router. Please let me know if you have a solution! Thanks

dannabee, Welcome to the discussion area!
What Mac do you have?
Do you have iMac G5 or a Power Mac G5?
Did you install the AirPort Extreme card yourself?

I have an AirPort Extreme time capsule . I need to extend my wifi network range. Which devise is better ?? Airport express or AirPort Extreme ??

I have an AirPort Extreme time capsule . I need to extend my wifi network range. Which devise is better ?? Airport express or AirPort Extreme ??

Since you have the new Time Capsule, then you will need a new AirPort Extreme to match the performance capabilities of the Time Capsule.
If best quality is preferred, you will need to connect the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme using a wired Ethernet connection between the devices. The advantage of doing it this way is that you can locate the AirPort Extreme exactly where it is needed...and there will be no loss of signal through the Ethernet cable.
A wireless connection will result in a significant drop in performance, but it might be OK for your uses, if you want to try it that way first to see if the performance is acceptable.
It is really important that the AirPort Extreme be located where it can receive a strong wireless signal from the Time Capsule.
A line-of-sight relationship between the Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme would be the goal, with the AirPort Extreme located about half way between the Time Capsule and the general area where you need more wireless signal coverage.

How many wireless devices can connect to an Express which is wired and extending an Extreme network?

How many wireless devices can connect to an Express which is wired and extending an Extreme network?

That is great news I have A1392s. One more question...
If I have an Airport Extreme setup as a router and feeding internet from a modem/ I wire an express (A1392) and "create a wireless network" the airport utility puts the express into bridge mode automatically.
How many wireless clients can I connect simultaneously to the express?
How many wireless clients can I connect simultaneously to the extreme assuming I am using all 50 at the express?
In other words, Could I have 50 wireless clients connected to each device simultaneously giving me a total of 100 wireless clients?
Thans

Airport Extreme wired network can't assign IP address, but wireless works

*Problem details:*
We have three computers intermittently on, wired into the ethernet LAN managed by the Airport Extreme.
We have a few more computers that connect to the wireless network managed by the same Airport Extreme.
As far as I know, no fancy settings hijinks have been attempted. I manage the router, and I only plugged the Airport into the cable modem and connected all the wires to the computers. The WiFi setup went a similar way -- I just turned it on and it sorted itself out. This was eight months ago, mind you -- everything has been going quite well up until this weekend.
But! I got home from a trip this weekend to discover that all the machines that connected over the wired network could no longer get a connection to the internet. Any machine connected over the wireless network, however, was working just fine. Indeed, my macbook pros couldn't even see the Airport Extreme when I turned off their WiFi, connected them over Ethernet and opened the Airport Extreme configuration app!
The wired machines complain that they have a self-assigned IP address. Sometimes, after resetting everything, they look like everything's fine for a moment. Like I said, ordinarily my macbook pro does not even recognize the router over the wired network. However, after reverting to factory defaults and restarting the Airport, the laptop did see it (until a few minutes went by and it realized something was wrong).
I figured that renewing my DHCP lease would fix this problem, but it did not. Nor did turning off Passive FTP Mode (PASV) under Proxies in the Network configuration pane.
I have tried resetting the router to factory defaults, power cycling the modem and router in various configurations, etc. but nothing has worked. In addition, I have verified that connecting any machine to the ethernet directly from the modem will work, so the problem is definitely being introduced by the Airport Extreme.
So I guess my question is: what do I have to poke to return everything to normal? I'd like working wired and wireless networks again.
*Some last few details:*
The Airport is running 7.5.2, but downgrading to 7.4.2 produced no tangible difference.
I have an Ubee D3.0 modem. All lights are green and blinky except the DS light, which is solid amber (and it is green when the modem is wired directly to one of my computers -- it's only amber when connected to the Airport).
Some of the machines that can't connect to the wired network are PCs, so it's not just an OSX thing.
My roommate's XBOX 360 can connect to the internet over the wired port. It doesn't have WiFi, so I'm pretty sure there's no way it could be fooling me.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can muster.
EDIT FOR APOLOGIES:
I didn't realize I was posting this in the "Airport for Windows" section. While a Windows computer's connection is a concern, I would much rather get my Macs online and deal with that first. I can't figure out how to move the message myself.

*An update:*
Several days later, this issue seems to have fixed itself. I suspect there may have been Funny Business on my ISP's end (but then again, it's an ISP).

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