Airport Extreme with ATT Router for Open DNS use

I'd like my whole home network to have a filter on it so all computers and hand devices are protected. I get my internet with an ATT router which I can not change the DNS servers. ATT says they can not be changed. But I have an airport extreme directly connected to the ATT router. The extreme supplies wi-fi to the house. I can not change the DNS settings in the extreme. They are grayed out. I'm assuming it has something to do with the connection to the ATT router. Does anyone know how I can put a DNS address in the extreme?
Some of the settings on the extreme are:
Internet Tab: connect using DHCP, DNS Servers "grayed out", Domain Name "grayed out"
Network Tab: Router Mode (off (bridge mode))
thanks!

Does anyone know how I can put a DNS address in the extreme?
Not sure what you mean that you cannot enter the DNS numbers on your AirPort Extreme configuration page.
Open up AirPort Utility and select the Internet tab
Look at the first DNS entry there. There should be a cursor at the beginning of the DNS Server Box. If not, click to set the insertion point at the beginning of the box.
Simply start typing in the DNS server number that you want to use.....208.67.222.222...... and it will overwrite the grayed out values there.
Do the same for the second DNS box....208.67.220.220.
Click Update at the lower right and you are all set.

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Airport Extreme off a Router which provides DNS - Guest Networks

I am sure that I am not alone here.
I have a BTBroadband wireless ADSLModem/Router which provides DNS for the network.
Off tyhe router is a Netgear switch which has connected to it an Airport Extreme. Also off this switch I have many other peripherals - such as Time Capsule, iMac etc.
So the arrangement is simple in logical terms:
BT Modem------->Wireless Router (which allocates DNS)---------->Switch----------->Airport Extreme etc.
IP Settings as follows
192.168.0.1 for Wireless Router - which allocates DNS in range 192.168.0.2 to 0.150.
I have allocated a fixed IP on the Airport Extreme of 192.168.0.151
The devices thart run off this are all having DNS allocated by the router - not the Airport Extreme.
So - how do I set up (or can I set up) the Guest Wireless Network?
Let's assume Router Wireless Network is call MainWireless with a Password MainWord, The Airport Extreme is acting in Bridge Mode and has the exact same 'Create a wireless network' called MainWIreless and Password MainWord (as per best practices in using these to provide the best 'network hopping' capabilities for devices (I actually have 2 other wireless devices from TimeCapsules that operate the wireless in the same way).
All of this works fine.
However when I set up the Guest Network on the Airport Extreme - simply by enabling it - I provide a new Guest Network name of GuestWireless with a password GuetsPassword. In theory it should all work fine, however the devices connecting to the Guest Network cannot get to the internet (effectively I don't think that the 'iPhone for example' is being allocated a correct IP Address - in fact I know that it isn't as its a 169 range and a different subnet).
So - the only way I can think of doing this is to go into the Network Settings on the Airport Extreme, Change Bridge Mode Wireless to DHCP and NAT and then go into Network Options. Here I am a bit lost and need help.
To summarise - Main Router Address 192.168.0.1 allocates range 192.168.0.2 to 150, Airport Extreme Address (static) address 192.168.0.151.
Airport Extreme DHCP and NAT Network Options has:
IPv4 DHCP Range - I have set to 192.168.0.152 to 255
Guest IPv4 DHCP Range 10.0.0 152 to 255
NAT Port Mapping Protocol is switched Off
- This won't even save.
Should be simple I would have thought. Think again...
Please help - mwhat should I / can I do to enable a guest wireless network?

Thanks for all that - I suspected as much (and I did mean DHCP not DNS).
So - if I disable DHCP on the HomeHub3 IP 192.168.0.1, and set the Airport Extreme IP Address at 192.168.0.2, what do I do with DHCP and NAT settings to have a Main and Guest Wireless Network?
I can easily change the order of things if necessary to be :
BT Modem (192.168.0.1 with DHCP disabled)--->Airport Extreme (192.168.0.2 (set to get DNS from 192.168.0.1) )--->Switch---->Various wired and wireless devices.

Using Airport Extreme with Linksys Router/Modem

I was just told that my Mac mini is excruiatingly slow on the internet because I am using a Linksys router with Xfinity and that Airport Extreme will be much faster. And that I should plug Airport Extreme into the modem. When I checked, I don't have a separate modem. My Linksys is a combined router/modem. What should I do? Do I plug the Airport Extreme into the Linksys box, or do I get a completely different modem that is only a modem? And, if I plug Airport Extreme into the Linksys box, how do I configure the network for Airport Extreme, and what else do I need to do? All help greatlly appreciated...I can barely get onto the Apple website!

When I signed up with Xfinity one of the stipulations was that they would not install a router/modem but only a modem. I had heard of problems with their router/modem and I didn't want to go down that path.
I don't but you mighht be able to get them to change out your router/modem for a modem. I would start there by asking them.
Allan

AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler for Mac 4 use with Touch?

Hello,
I have a 2nd Gen Touch with the latest updated software. I use Airport to connect to the internet on my new iMac 24". Will the AirPort Extreme 802.11n* Enabler software now offered in the Apple store($1.99) for Mac improve communications between the Touch and my iMac?
Thanks

Nope. Your touch is still limited to b/g mode wireless. In fact, if you have an all n network, your touch won't even know that it exists.
Most of your Mac to iPod communication is via the USB cable unless you are using Remote or other applications that can move files on and off.
BTW, that software is to enable early intel Macs to use N wireless. If your Mac is relatively new, you won't need it.
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I have Verizon FiOS service for phone, internet and TV but I only have one TV hooked up for it for just basic cable service with no DVR and no need for widgets. Can I use an Airport Extreme as my router and not use the FiOs router?

I want to use an Airport Extreme as my router. I currently have a Verizon FiOS router. I have Verizon for phone, internet and TV. However, TV-wise, I just have a basic service for one TV with just a regular box. No HD, no DVR. Don't need access to a menu, widgets, on-demand. Can I eliminate the FiOS Router and just use the Airport Extreme and still have phone and internet?

I know that it will increase my wireless coverage in my house but will it increase the speeds?
Not sure what you are asking here. The AirPort Extreme is only going to be as fast as the Internet connection that it receives.....which is 75/75. It cannot take a 75/75 connection and make it go any faster.
If you locate the AirPort Extreme in an area where you need more wireless signal coverage, the AirPort Extreme would deliver 75/75 in that area. But, keep in mind that the AirPort Extreme must connect to the FIOS router using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection.
If you are asking if the AirPort Extreme can wirelessly connect to the FIOS modem router, and extend the FIOS wireless network, the AirPort Extreme would not be compatible with a FIOS product for that purpose.

How to set up Airport Extreme with Charter ARRIS Modem TM902A for the first time for WIRELESS.

How to set up Airport Extreme with Charter ARRIS Modem TM902A for the first time for WIRELESS.
When Charter Tech goes to your site, have them connect the modem up, but do not connect the modem to your iMAC or MacBook Pro. What you want to do is connect the Airport Extreme to the iMac or MacBook Pro first with the Ethernet Cable. You have to do this to configure via Airport Utility to set up the Base Station Name & Base Station Password.
You will then create/configure a Wireless Network, create your Wireless Password that will be entered on each of your Devices, example, Apple Tv, your iPhone, etc., you want to allow access to your Wireless Network you are creating.
Wireless Security will be -> WPA/WPA2 personal or just WPA2
Enter the Wireless Password you want
Verify the Wireless Password (enter it again)
After it is created you will see it on the Airport Utility window with the name you created for it and to the left, will be a Dot (circle that will be yellow).
Next you then want to unplug the power to the Airport Extreme, and then take the end of the Ethernet cable you unplugged from the iMac or Lap top MacBook Pro and connect it to the back of the Modem.
Next unplug the power cord from the modem and wait about 5 minutes, then plug the power back into the Arris Modem and wait until all lights come back on the modem wait
about 5 minutes, then plug the power cord back to the Airport Extreme and you will see it the light blinking yellow. Wait about 5 to 10 minutes, during this time Restart you IMAC or MacBook Pro, and once it is back up click on the Airport Utility and you should see on the Airport Utility screen.
For INTERNET to the left the light should be green and you should see the Airport Extreme also appear and the light to the left on the screen should also be green. If they are, you then should be able to click on the Wireless Symbol on top of bar of the screen and click to select the Wireless Network Name you created.
If you Do Not See the light (Icon) next to INTERNET turn Green, or if you see the Internet Light Green, but the Light (Icon) next to the Airport Extreme is yellow, unplug the power again to the modem and unplug the power again to the Airport extreme and wait about 15 minutes or up to 30 minutes. Then plug the power cord back to the modem wait till all the lights light up then, plug the power cord back into the Airport Extreme and Restart your iMAC or MacBook Pro.
The Airport Extreme light should change from yellow to green. Open up the Airport Utility to see what the indicators are showing they should both be green. Again select Wireless network you created under the Wireless Icon on the top right of the screen. Open Safari and see if you are able to Route to a web page or the apple site should appear.
WHAT TO DO IF YOUR AIRPORT EXTREME WAS PREVIOUSLY SET UP FOR USE WITH ANOTHER CARRIERS ROUTER OR MODEM.
NOTE: If you already had your Airport Extreme connected for example, I previously had ATT Uverse and the Airport Extreme was connected to the Wireless Router Model 3801HGV, I disabled the Uverse Wireless and used the Airport Extreme for the Wireless signal in bridge mode, as the Airport extreme Signal is much stronger than the Uverse router, and I was able to obtain a Wireless signal with the Airport Extreme way much better with no signal loss which was very very frustrating with the Uverse router.
Anyhow if you had it hooked up like this, now that you will be using it with the Charter ARRIS Modem TM902A, you will need to reset the Airport Extreme to clear out the old data it has in memory, with the previous set up otherwise it will not work. Trust me I spent 6 hours trying to make it work reading all Apple Support Community questions and answers relating to this type issue/problem others have been having trying to get their set up working. I tried all the tips, and I finally decided just to see if by chance I would be able to connect with someone with Charter Tech support who might be familiar with Apple to be able to assist me and by luck I did. He told me why it was not working and was all due the previous configuration with the ATT Uverse router was still in memory with the Airport Extreme. Finally it was 10:30 PM when I decided to call Charter Tech Support and I had been working on this since 3:00 pm pacific. I did not call them earlier as all the post I read said they never received any good help from Charter. After calling them I finished up by 11:00 PM and was able to finally connect Apple Tv, iMac, iPhones and Macbook Pro. We love our Apple Product and Happy all is connected with the new
Internet Provider Charter. I must say the speed is way way much better than it ever was with AT&T Uverse.
THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL NEED TO DO:
First you will need to unplug the Airport Extreme, then by taking the tip of a pen or paper clip end you need to push the reset button on the back of the Airport Extreme and hold it
down and at the same time plug the power cord back into the Airport Extreme count to 5 or 10 then release the reset button. Then once he light in front of the Airport Extreme stops blinking you need to plug the Ethernet cable from the Airport Extreme to your iMAC or Macbook Pro, and restart which ever one you have, then open the Airport Utility once it is back up. If you see airport extreme pop up with the old network name or it shows and yellow triangle click on the Airport Extreme ICON it will not let you configure it but will ask if you want to get rid of it or remove and just do it. Then Again restart your iMAC or MacBook Pro, open up Airport Utility again, and on the top left you should see under “Other Airport Base Stations” the MAC ID for the Airport Extreme.
You will then create/configure a Wireless Network, create your Wireless Password that will be entered on each of your Devices, example, Apple TV, your iPhone, etc., you want to allow access to your Wireless Network you are creating.
Wireless Security will be -> WPA/WPA2 personal or just WPA2
Enter the Wireless Password you want
Verify the Wireless Password (enter it again)
After it is created you will see it on the Airport Utility window with the name you created for it and to the left, will be a Dot (circle that will be yellow).
Next you then want to unplug the power to the Airport Extreme, and then take the end of the Ethernet cable you unplugged from the iMac or Lap top MacBook Pro and connect it to the back of the Modem.
Next unplug the power cord from the modem and wait about 5 minutes, then plug the power back into the Arris Modem and wait until all lights come back on the modem wait
about 5 minutes, then plug the power cord back to the Airport Extreme and you will see it the light blinking yellow. Wait about 5 to 10 minutes, during this time Restart you IMAC or MacBook Pro, and once it is back up click on the Airport Utility and you should see on the Airport Utility screen.
For INTERNET to the left the light should be green and you should see the Airport Extreme also appear and the light to the left on the screen should also be green. If they are, you then should be able to click on the Wireless Symbol on top of bar of the screen and click to select the Wireless Network Name you created.
If you Do Not See the light (Icon) next to INTERNET turn Green, or if you see the Internet Light Green, but the Light (Icon) next to the Airport Extreme is yellow, unplug the power again to the modem and unplug the power again to the Airport extreme and wait about 15 minutes or up to 30 minutes. Then plug the power cord back to the modem wait till all the lights light up then, plug the power cord back into the Airport Extreme and Restart your iMAC or MacBook Pro.
The Airport Extreme light should change from yellow to green. Open up the Airport Utility to see what the indicators are showing they should both be green. Again select Wireless network you created under the Wireless Icon on the top right of the screen. Open Safari and see if you are able to Route to a web page or the apple site should appear.

I just got a Charter Modem. Model TM822. While I was moving, my Airport Extreme was still at my old place.
I have a Linksys WRT320N I used for the initial Charter setup.
I can get my Airport to work here, but the Internet light on the Modem flashes Yellow.
Hasn't caused any issues so far but one thing I did notice.
On the Linksys there were 3 DNS servers listed.
The Airport Extreme only lists 2 and i don't see where I could add another, only change whats already there.
I tried everything above, but light on modem still flashes yellow.
I have the technicians cell phone. Told me "that shouldn't be" and gave the same advice listed above.
I'll break down and call Charter one day, see if it's on their end. NSA tracking may need a reset LMAO.

How can I set up an Airport Extreme as a router, in conjunction with my AT&T modem/router?

I am trying to set up an Airport Extreme as my router, and I am currently using an AT&T modem/router combo. I am wondering what would be the easiest way to do this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the ATT modem/router to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Extreme. This cable must remain in place permanently.
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility on your Mac
Click on Other WiFi Devices
Click on AirPort Extreme xxxxx
The utility will take a moment to analyze the connection, then a screen similar to this will appear with your AirPort Extreme instead of an AirPort Express
Type in a short simple name that you want to use for the wireless network
Type in a device name for the AirPort Extreme
Enter a password that will be used for both the AirPort Extreme and wireless network
Verify the password
Click Next
The utility will setup everything for you. When the message of Setup Complete appears, click Done and close AirPort Utility.
The AirPort Extreme wireless network is now available.

Airport Extreme with Airport Express for extending WiFi Network...

I have had an iMac for quite a few years now and never needed WiFi until this week. I purchased a Macbook Air, an Airport Extreme and an Airport Express over the last 24 hrs. I opened the Airport Extreme first and followed the somewhat easy installation procedures. My iMac is wired via Ethernet cable to my Airport Extreme. The Airport Extreme is connected to a Motorola Cable Modem using Time-Warner. I also happen to have a Verizon Network Extender connected via Ethernet cable to the Airport Extreme. The spot where I most frequently would be using the Macbook Air, is about as far away from my iMac and Airport Extreme Base Network Router as you could be. The WiFi works, shows only one bar on the Airport icon. Consequently I want to plug my Airport Express in near this location to give me a better WiFi signal (and thus perhaps faster performance). I have read both the Airport Express Manual and the Airport Extreme Manual but neither talks all that much about the network extension function with the exception of connecting a stereo to an existing WiFi network. I am wondering what the specific steps are to add the Airport Express as a Network Extender. I also wonder if my Macbook Air will be able to access my iMac as the iMac is connected via Ethernet to the Airport Extreme vs. using the Airport Network. Any help will be most appreciated.

Julie Kruyne wrote:
I am trying to do the exact same thing and am having some difficulties.
It was easier for "WiseJD" because he was using two Apple base stations, instead of your AT&T router.
I select Manual Setup, it just sits there thinking - I can't get into the actual set up.
So you see the Express in AirPort Utility, but when you select it and select "Manual Setup", nothing happens?
When setting up the Express to extend my existing wireless network (AT&T 2WIRE modem and Airport Extreme), do I initially connect the Express, via Ethernet cable, to the modem or the Extreme?
I'll guess that the AT&T device is connected to your broadband connection. Is the 2WIRE device either without Wi-Fi support or is that turned off? How is the Extreme configured, in particular in the AirPort/Wireless panel "Wireless Mode" setting and in the Internet/Internet Connection panel, "Connection Sharing" setting?
If anyone could provide a step by step process on exactly how to set up the Express to extend my existing network, I would be grateful.
I have very little experience with mixed-vendor home networking, but someone should be able to help.

HT4356 I have an HP 4500 printer connected to airport extreme with usb. All our portable notebooks print via air but cannot get iPad to be recognized for printing. Do I really have to have one of the other HPs listed?

I have an HP 4500 printer connected to airport extreme with usb. All our portable notebooks print via air but cannot get iPad to be recognized for printing. Do I really have to have one of the other HPs listed?

Rufus Cat-
Even if it was compatible, AirPrint does not work through a USB link, only Ethernet or WiFi.
I do not see your HP 4500 listed on Apple's list of AirPrint compatible printers. <iOS: AirPrint 101> Therefore you need to take another approach. To start, I suggest you download the free HP App, ePrint Home & Biz. It has limitations, but should get you printing with your existing setup.
There are other printing Apps with more features such as Print n Share and PrintCentral, but they can only be accessed from within other Apps that have the "Open In" option.
Your best option may be to share your computer's printer as AirPrint over WiFi. Programs that are reported to do that well are Printopia and FingerPrint. Your computer must be on and awake any time you want to print. <Printopia for Macintosh> <FingerPrint for PC and Mac>
Fred

I have an Airport Extreme as my router and am using time capsule to extend the network in my new house. My ISP is only providing me 4-5 ip addresses and wants me to set up my router to issue out new ip addresses for all my devices.How do I fix this?Help

I have an Airport Extreme as my router and am using time capsule to extend the network in my new house. My ISP is only providing me 4-5 ip addresses and wants me to set up my router to issue out new ip addresses for all my devices.How do I fix this?Help.
They said I need to change my settings to NAT settings. I haven't been able to figure out or find anything. I have also spoken to Apple Support on the phone for hours without being able to figure out how to do this ( i don't think he knew much either lol.) Please help me because I've got about 15-20 devices in my house that require to be connected to the internet and this is just making things ridiculously slow and painful for me.
Thanks!

It is on DHCP & NAT under router mode yet my isp is still the one issuing ip addresses to my devices instead of the router issuing them

AirPort Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0+EDR Card for Apple Dual Core

Hello everybody,
Where can I buy the AirPort Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0+EDR card for a new Apple PowerMac G5 2.3 Dual core? What websites or locations in Los Angeles sell this card?
What workarounds are out there?
Thank you all for your answers.
Apple G5 Dual Core Mac OS X (10.4.3) HD Cinema Screen

The new Dual Core G5 machines do indeed come shipped in the base models without Bluetooth or Airport Extreme. There will be a solution available through the local ASP's (Apple Service Providers) and Apple Genius bars in the Apple owned Retail stores. Many of the store employees are not fully aware of the situation, however, they should be able to look up the issue in the Knowledge Base.
There is a service part (PN 661-3692), that should likely be available for future upgrades. At present, the part is constrained, and therefore restricted to exchange only repairs. You may want to contact a service provider or Apple Retail location to inquire on availability as an upgrade part, as it is currently not planned as a DIY (do it yourself) activity and would have to be obtained and installed by one of these service providers.
G5/2.3 ghz Dual Core Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Hi. Does anyone know how to extend the airport express and extreme with Cisco Router DPC3925. I have upgrade my wireless to 50Mbps. Thank you

Hi,
Can someone help.
I have a Cisco router DPC3925 provided by the ISP and I cannot extend my wireless with Airport Express.
Also I intend to extend it with Airport Extreme.
Please help.
Thank you.

Sorry, but your post is not clear. The topic of this thread is how to extend an AirPort Express or AirPort Extreme with a Cisco router.
This would mean that the main router was an AirPort device and the Cisco would be extending the existing network provided by the AirPort.
Is that really what you want to do?
If not, then it sounds like your Cisco ISP provided wireless router is your "main" router and you will be using the Time Capsule to extend the network.
Please start another post to tell us exactly.......
What device will be the main router providing your Internet connection and wireless network
What device will extend the network
What operating system that you have on your Mac or PC

I am experiencing network failures with my Airport Extremes: the main router is a 2nd Gen, the extension a 5th Gen. The 5th Gen keeps on losing connection with the main router. Any ideas why?

I am experiencing network failures with my Airport Extremes: the main router is a 2nd Gen, the extension a 5th Gen.
The 5th Gen keeps on losing connection with the main router and thus with the internet.
Any ideas why?

Is the second Extreme configured to "extend" the network created by the first? If so its position must be such that it has a strong wireless connection to the first Extreme. If it is at the limits of the first one's wireless range its connection will be tenuous. Place them closer together and determine if that makes a difference.

Airport extreme stopped conneting asking for dns server?

my internet connection sopped out of nowhere and in airport utility it's asking for the dns server(s) numbers which 2 spaces are blank...

For some reason, the communication between the Time Capsule and the Internet modem has stopped working properly.
I would recommend that you do the following as a minimum:
Power-down the modem, AirPort base station, and computer(s).
(OPTIONAL) While all of the devices are powered-down, perform a "factory default" reset on the base station. This will get it back to its "out-of-the-box" configuration and make setting it up much easier, especially if you use the "Assist me" process within the AirPort Utility. (ref: Resetting an AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule)
After the base station resets, go ahead and power it back down.
Power-up the modem; wait at least 10-15 minutes.
Power-up the base station; wait at least 5-10 minutes.
Power-up your computer(s).
In this basic configuration, computers connected to the base station, either by wire or wireless (as appropriate for the base station type), should now be able to access the Internet through the ISP's modem. Once Internet connectivity has been verified, you can use the AirPort Utility to configure the base station for wireless security and any other desired options.

Is a Happy Marriage Possible? New Airport Extreme & ADSL Modem/Router

Is a Happy Marriage Possible? New Airport Extreme & ADSL Modem/Router
1. I’m writing from a rural town in Southern Nepal, very close to India. I’m planning to create a new WI-FI network at a small monastery here. Ideally, we will have two parallel wireless networks: the first network produced by an ADSL router/modem and a second network produced by another router in “repeater” mode.
2. Earlier, someone suggested that, when I post a question, I should provide as many details as possible about the situation here. Forgive me if there is “too much information”. I have to make a trip to the US to buy new networking equipment, so I very much want to get this right. Once I return here, I’ll be pretty much stuck with whatever I get in the US.
3. The future routers will live next to each other in an office and could be linked by a cable (if this is the best route to go). We do not wish to “expand” the network (in the sense of making a larger WI-FI network), but rather wish to simply have two networks, hence one ADSL router/modem and one router with the “repeater” function (out-of-the-box without any jerry rigging). Both WI-FI signals need to travel approximately 100 (largely unobstructed) feet.
4. If my dreams come true, the second router would be an Apple Airport Extreme (AX). An Apple router would be ideal because my experience with Apple routers is happy: they are easy to set up, reliable, and secure. Moreover, we use Apple computers and iOS devices here (and the new AX has the “ac” thing which will be preferable as we replace old machines with new ones).
5. Yet, from reading posts and having my prior questions answered on this website, it may be that with an ADSL modem/router, all the ease and happiness of the Apple ecosystem is lost: while Apple routers seem to connect with each other easily, problems appear to arise when users try to inter-marry our non-Apple products with Apples.
6. Our current, super-crappy 2wire 2701hg-t (ADSL modem/router) covers the 100-foot distance without a problem when it is working and there is Ethernet flowing to us. Frequently, our connection is very bad, and I may be unfairly judging the 2wire 2701hg-t. But, based on user reviews on the America Amazon.com, the 2wire 2701hg-t is pretty terrible: first it is simply old and second, among other problems, it seems to have a poor quality power supply unit. I do observe that it frequently seems to be recycling from scratch as if it had turned off and restarted. In any case, we are replacing it since it may be about 4 or 5 years old.
7. In previous posts on this forum, “LaPastenague” responded to some of my earlier questions about AX and ADSL. Among other things, he pointed out that (1) line-attenuation may be contributing to our poor connection and (2) we must choose a modem/router that is suitable for “long lines.” I’ve looked at our current modem/router statistics page; however, there are no statistics for line-attenuation or noise. (As you will see below, my strategy is to get the “better” modem/router that is suitable for long lines.)
8. Concerning our ADSL service, these are the facts I’ve gleaned from looking at the current router’s configuration pages:
Connection Type: PPPoE
Currently, the router is configured to use WPA-PSK security.
Connection Speed: Incoming: 1024 kbps & Outgoing: 509 kbps
(The following information may be unimportant at this time.)
Broadband Link Diagnostics:
DSL Synchronization: UP
G.DMT Signal: UP
PVC Connection: UP
PPPoE Service: UP
PPP Authentication: UP
IP Connection: UP
DNS Communication: UP
9. The ISP (Nepal Telecom) doesn’t supply a modem/router; however, they do have a list of (at times ancient) hardware and hardware vendors:
http://www.ntc.net.np/internet/adsl/adsl_vendersConf.php
10. Concerning what equipment is available here, what I have observed is that generally the ADSL modem/routers for sale locally, and in the far-away capital Kathmandu, and in nearby India are often also available in the United States, but they are the cheaper, older models. I will have to buy the new equipment in the US this year. At a different institution nearby, they are using the TP-Link modem/router td-w89016 which they purchased locally, I believe.
11. Based in part on LaPastenague’s earlier advice, I want to buy the TP-LINK TD-W8980 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit ADSL2+ Modem Router (2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 300Mbps, IPv6 Compatible). This appears to be the most popular ADSL device on Amazon now.
Will this modem/router work EASILY with the Airport Extreme in the manner I’ve described? That is, connecting the two with a cable and creating two WI-FI networks.
12. Also, is it generally correct that the best way to connect them is with an Ethernet cable: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23759755#23759755
13. In fact, does connecting them with a cable help alleviate some of the problems that can occur between the Apple device and the ADSL modem/router?
14. If this will work, what “mode” will the AX device be in (again, in order to have two separate networks with separate passwords)? I have heard of the “repeater”, “roaming” , and “bridge” modes.
15. Are there two levels of passwords which need to be considered? Of course, there is the network and network passwords which we create here and which will be different. But, does the Apple also have to have the ISP password like the principle ADSL modem/router?
16. To set this up, what information do I need from the ISP (e.g., passwords, IPs…)?
I think there are a lot of good reasons to use an AX router. Of course, if it is just going to be very cumbersome then, we would be loosing one of the best parts of using Apple products. So, whoever feels knowledgeable enough to reply to this post, please be sincere if you think it is better to avoid the Apple. Apple can rest assured that I will buy other things from them!
In that case, I’d likely buy a second TP-Link device to create a second network:
TL-Wa801NP [AP Mode Multi-SSID Mode AP Client Mode Repeater Mode (WDS / Universal) AP+ Bridge mode (point-to-point / point to Multi-point)].
Thank you in advance. Long live Apple!
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I am not sure if there are different interfaces but my 2wire does an excellent job with line info.
I get into this from browser.. using main IP.. in my case 10.0.0.138/MDC
In your case it should be whatever the IP of the 2wire is, followed by /mdc
Give it a try.
As you can see it shows vendor and loads of info about the line.
I rate it the best domestic modem for line info.
A good modem actually albeit a lousy router.
MDC is the diagnostics and Management Console.
3. The future routers will live next to each other in an office and could be linked by a cable (if this is the best route to go). We do not wish to “expand” the network (in the sense of making a larger WI-FI network), but rather wish to simply have two networks, hence one ADSL router/modem and one router with the “repeater” function (out-of-the-box without any jerry rigging). Both WI-FI signals need to travel approximately 100 (largely unobstructed) feet.
You are not repeating.. you are simply setting up two routers which are interconnected, so one is dependent on the other.. ie one is your adsl modem router and that will take the main router function. Your second router is really not working as a router, but as wireless access point (and switch if you plug things in).
That is perfectly fine. You are not roaming in this case since both routers are running different wireless names and networks.. but they are actually using same IP range.. all devices are on the one IP network with two different wireless access points.
4. If my dreams come true, the second router would be an Apple Airport Extreme (AX).
Apple router is fine for this. Easy to configure out of the box.
5. Yet, from reading posts and having my prior questions answered on this website, it may be that with an ADSL modem/router, all the ease and happiness of the Apple ecosystem is lost: while Apple routers seem to connect with each other easily, problems appear to arise when users try to inter-marry our non-Apple products with Apples.
The problem arises when you try and interconnect using wireless extend or repeater.. you are not using wireless to extend, you are using ethernet. Wired has no issues.
11. Based in part on LaPastenague’s earlier advice, I want to buy the TP-LINK TD-W8980 N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit ADSL2+ Modem Router (2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 300Mbps, IPv6 Compatible). This appears to be the most popular ADSL device on Amazon now.
Will this modem/router work EASILY with the Airport Extreme in the manner I’ve described? That is, connecting the two with a cable and creating two WI-FI networks.
It is a good choice.. It should be fine considering how poor your line is.. this modem is proving to have a couple of bugs.. it does not handle torrents well but I would suggest your system is not being used for that purpose. It has some port forwarding issues. Again you are probably not going to overload it.
12. Also, is it generally correct that the best way to connect them is with an Ethernet cable: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23759755#23759755
Absolutely best.. only decent method.
14. If this will work, what “mode” will the AX device be in (again, in order to have two separate networks with separate passwords)? I have heard of the “repeater”, “roaming” , and “bridge” modes.
Bridge. Although if it gives issues there is another method, although rather complex to setup.. not something to worry about now.
15. Are there two levels of passwords which need to be considered? Of course, there is the network and network passwords which we create here and which will be different. But, does the Apple also have to have the ISP password like the principle ADSL modem/router?
Only the adsl modem has the ISP authentication.. it is the box that does the link. The TC just piggy backs.
The passwords on the TC are for its Admin, wireless and disk access.
16. To set this up, what information do I need from the ISP (e.g., passwords, IPs…)?
For ADSL you must have the PPPoE authentication username and password.
So, whoever feels knowledgeable enough to reply to this post, please be sincere if you think it is better to avoid the Apple.
hmmm.. I am biased because I see the issues not all the good stories..
The latest airport and Time Capsule seem to have a few pretty severe bugs.. if they happen to hit you, they are extremely hard to fix if you are in the middle of Nepal. And Apple service centre is a long long way away.
I cannot answer your question from the point of view of a person on the ground in remote area. If the economics of the purchase works for you, great. Go for it.
In terms of wireless coverage.. the Asus AC models or Netgear R7000 kill the Apple. Sorry but it is just fact.
See reviews here.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/113-5-ghz-dn-c
That is average.. if you look at the apple router in the worst location by changing the filters, it comes out worse again.
I cannot post the URL to our local forum here.. (apple doesn't allow it). But in testing with apple clients the asus still beat Apple router soundly.
Pure wireless range is not the only consideration.. but in a mixed environment and since the wireless on the 8980N is not too bad.. then buy Apple router for apple client devices makes good sense.
Maybe the older Gen5.. or two of them.. would do a better job.. with a bit more tested and known hardware.
One thing you do need to check.
Routers from every other brand allow you to select country. Any country from anywhere in the world. Apple routers do not.
If you buy an airport in North America it is coded to North America and offers just a few countries.. USA, Canada I suppose.. what else is North America??
You cannot change it to Nepal.
To get the one for Nepal you must buy the model that covers, South Asia I guess.. I am not sure which it is.
See what the license information is for wifi in Nepal as it might be very different to US and therefore illegal for you to run it in Nepal.
If only the whole world would just bow to America.. we could all follow the FCC regs..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
This only applies to the Apple.. the TP-Link etc allows you to choose Nepal or correct country regulations for wifi.
Buying modems has one tricky bit.. that the actual adsl ATM channel is different in different parts of the world. No modem is usually impossible to setup but some can be difficult if it is pre-configured for US.. this is easy to overcome generally as you can download a firmware for another locality, so you can have local settings.

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