Airport exytreme dual band with a wired ethernet card

Hi!
i just want to know if it's possible connect my airport extreme dual band, without a wireless card, just the regular pc etherneet cards?
Thanks

Hello milolopez. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
i just want to know if it's possible connect my airport extreme dual band, without a wireless card, just the regular pc etherneet cards?
Yes, you can connect a wired device to one of the LAN ports on the DB AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS), by Ethernet, for connectivity.

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I have an airport extreme (dual band) set up with a dual band Time capsule extending the 5ghz band .. however the mac address that the time capsule says its using is the 2.4ghz band.. I only noticed this while setting up static IP addresses on my network... does this mean it is extending the 5ghz network on a 2.4 ghz band? how do i set it up to just extend the 5ghz properly.. any clarification would be appreciated.
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See my answer to your other post.

Best way to use Airport Extreme dual band with Netgear FR114P?

Years ago a friend connected via ethernet our G4 (10.4.11) and an old Blueberry iMac (10.4.11) to a Netgear FR114P Router(?) which is connected to a modem from TimeWarner Cable on our second floor. We also have an ethernet connection downstairs for a Windows XP laptop. We can all get on the internet easily, but we have never been able to connect wirelessly or to let one printer serve everyone in the house. My grandchildren now all have these wonderful Apple devices (iPhones, iPads, iPods, Macbooks), and I would like them to be able to connect wirelessly, and I would like to have a real network so we can all use the printer and scanner, but still preserving the integrity of our hard drives. We just bought 2 refurbished iMacs, an Apple Extreme Base Station (dual), and an Apple Express access point. How best to proceed to achieve the desired outcome? If the language is not too technical, I think I’ll be able to follow the directions.
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Years ago a friend connected via ethernet our G4 (10.4.11) and an old Blueberry iMac (10.4.11) to a Netgear FR114P Router(?) which is connected to a modem from TimeWarner Cable on our second floor. We also have an ethernet connection downstairs for a Windows XP laptop. We can all get on the internet easily, but we have never been able to connect wirelessly or to let one printer serve everyone in the house. My grandchildren now all have these wonderful Apple devices (iPhones, iPads, iPods, Macbooks), and I would like them to be able to connect wirelessly, and I would like to have a real network so we can all use the printer and scanner, but still preserving the integrity of our hard drives. We just bought 2 refurbished iMacs, an Apple Extreme Base Station (dual), and an Apple Express access point. How best to proceed to achieve the desired outcome? If the language is not too technical, I think I’ll be able to follow the directions.
I am reluctant to mess with the Netgear connection which is working. I am hoping I can remove the hard-wired G4 and put the 27” iMac in its place. Then, I am hoping I can connect the AEBS to the Netgear router and somehow magically create a situation wherein all the computers & some of the devices can talk to each other and to the peripherals wirelessly? Is that possible? I’ve read some of the discussions, even one about a Netgear FR114P, but it was dated 2007 so I’m not sure it applies to my situation. Should I just get rid of the Netgear? I don’t want to spend 20 hours without any kind of internet connection and get into a frustrating situation as one of the previous writers did. I am happy to proceed methodically and get it right the first time. Thanks so much for reading this long-winded thing. If this problem is already recently addressed in this forum, perhaps you will be kind enough to give me the link.

Configuring WDS w/ Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n & Express 802.11g

I currently have an Airport Extreme Dual-Band 802.11n Model: A1301 (located downstairs) and an older Airport Express 802.11g Model: A1084 (located upstairs) which I had been using to stream iTunes to my upstairs stereo (which worked flawlessly). Recently a friend of mine recommended that I reconfigure my network to a Wireless Distribution System setup which would allow me to create a remote wireless node which improves my wireless signal strength upstairs, allows an interface to Airplay to play our music from our iPod's/Pad's and also provides an hard-wired Ethernet connection for my newly delivered Network Extender for my cell phone. So I followed the URL: support.apple.com/kb/HT4262 to assist in this conversion and found that I was unable to configure my network as desired. While this documentation is very good, there is one snafu that I worked out that finally allowed a successful setup. Follow the instructions for:
- Connecting a WDS main base station to the Internet
- Configuring a WDS main base station
- Configuring a WDS remote base station (See last line of instructions for the correct WDS Main ID)
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From the AirPort Menu Extra, select an 802.11g Wi-Fi base station to configure as a WDS remote.
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Select the AirPort icon from the Toolbar, and click on the Wireless tab.
From Wireless Mode select Participate in a WDS network.
Click on the WDS tab.
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The other option I've been trying out (to accommodate the Tivo2 that can't handle WEP) is having no security, but making the networks hidden.
A third option I tried to make work was to create a "guest network" for just the Tivo2.
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The way it used to work on the non-dual band Extreme was as I mapped above, and the Tivo2 and my iPad used the wireless signal with no problem while the Express was Ethernet connected to the TivoPremiere, but it did so using WDS, which doesn't even seem to exist as a possibility, forget teh fact that it undermines the speed boost (so I read)
I've frankly never been able to understand the differences between the various modes and structures, and believe it or not I'm very smart and very comfortable with computers and Macs, having worked on them for 25 years.
And one of the biggest reasons I've had such a hard time is because of the many times that I have updated after making changes, Airport Utility tells me it worked, but nothing happens and then after too much frustration I end up unplugging and shutting down every single piece of equipment and rebooting everything and then it DOES work. Sometimes. But I can't be doing that every time I make one tweak, I'll go insane!
And the number of pin-resets I've done on the Express, the Dual band, and even the cable modem would make your head spin!
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My Airport Extreme Dual-Band Base Station is completely updated as of DEC. 30, 2012 running version 7.6.1 and I have the latest airport utility, so bare in mind some of the previous fixes I've Read seem unavailable to my setup
Our household has 7-13 of the following devices connected in a 24 hour average:
5-6 iPhones all running iOS 6 (1, iphone 3gs; 2-3, iPhone 4; 2, iPhone 5)
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2 MacBook Pro 13" early 2012 models one running mountain lion and the other running lion
1 mac mini early 2011 model running mountain lion server and is connected outside the network as a public server
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I've had a WDS network between two older Airport Express (802.11g version) units for a couple of years, one connected to my DSL-router, and the other one connected to my desktop computer. This way I was able to get my desktop computer on the wireless network.
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How to get Powerbook G4 12" OSX 10.3.9 to access Airport Extreme Dual Band

I recently purchased a new MacBook Pro 13" V 10.5.7 and a new Airport Extreme Dual Band.
Prior I had been using a Powerbook G4 12" OSX 10.3.9 and an older version of the Airport Extreme (old saucer dome shape) and they worked no problem.
Now I have the new airport Dual band set up. The new MacBook accesses it no problem. The Powerbook will not access for some reason. The Airport ID shows up on airport icon menu on the powerbook, but when I enter the password it will not access. It says wrong password. It is the correct password for the Macbook though?
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Unable to set up dual band with my 1st Gen Airport Extreme

Not sure if my 1st Gen Airport extreme supports this but I unable to figure out how to setup dual band networking. I have certain devices that work on 2.4 Ghz and some that work on 5ghz. I trying to improve my network speed by separating the devices that can use 5ghz. Any advise please?

1st Gen AirPort Extreme will do either 5 GHz or 2.4 GHz....but not both simultaneously.
Simultaneous dual band was introduced in the 3rd Gen AirPort Extreme.
Simplest solution.....the current AirPort Express will do simultaneous dual band. You could then reconfigure the AirPort Extreme to extend the 2.4 GHz network for increased coverage.
Be careful with 5 GHz as this is pretty much a "same room" or "line-of-sight" deal since 5 GHz signals are much weaker than 2.4 GHz signals....they won't penetrate through walls or other obstructions nearly as well as 2.4 GHz signals.

Dual band with Time Capsule extending AirPort Express - is it possible?

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I have an Early 2009 Time Capsule and an Early 2010 AirPort Express.
Currently the AirPort Express is downstairs where the broadband connection enters the house, broadcasting at 5Ghz Wireless N only. Extending it is the TC upstairs which broadcasts the signal as Wireless B/G/N 2.4ghz and Wireless N 5 Ghz. This is because the TC has greater range so if it is in the middle of the house it will reach pretty much everywhere, or so I thought.
I would like to put the TC back in two network mode (2.4 and 5 ghz) because my macbook keeps switching to the 2.4ghz network, decreasing latency and throughput even more. Is there a way to have the AirPort Express channel the 100mb internet to the TC but still have the TC broadcasting in dual network mode so as to reach the whole house with maximum throughput? And would it be possible to have the AirPort Express also broadcast at 2.4ghz G to use my iPod touch and older laptop there? Currently its broadcasting at 5ghz because otherwise the TC extends the 2.4ghz which makes the whole setup much slower.
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Is there a way to have the AirPort Express channel the 100mb internet to the TC but still have the TC broadcasting in dual network mode so as to reach the whole house with maximum throughput?
Unfortunately, this is not possible. The AirPort Express can only broadcast a single band at one time, not dual bands. If you have the TC setup to "extend a wireless network", the TC will only extend the signal that it receives, which is a single band signal from the AirPort Express.
And would it be possible to have the AirPort Express also broadcast at 2.4ghz G to use my iPod touch and older laptop there?
As we pointed out, the AirPort Express is a single band device. It can broadcast a 2.4 GHz signal or a 5 GHz signal, +but not both simultaneously+. So, if the Express is broadcasting 5 GHz, it cannot also broadcast 2.4 GHz at the same time.
To do what you want, you need an simultaneous dual band AirPort Extreme in place of the AirPort Express. The Extreme will broadcast both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands simultaneously, and if your TC is a simultaneous dual band device, it will extend both the 2.4 GHz and 5 Hz bands.

New Airport extreme dual band and older version.

I purchased a new dual band Airport Extreme base station.
How can I make use of an older version of the Airport Extreme 802.11n (non dual band) in my network?
Can I hook the 2 up together to boost up the range or coverage of the network?
If so, how far apart do they have to be?
Also, does the main AEBS have to be as close possible to the modem in order to work better? my modem is in the basement in the mecanical room. What would be the best to get the best signal througout my house?

Hello mike1970. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
How can I make use of an older version of the Airport Extreme 802.11n (non dual band) in my network?
Two examples would be: 1) Connect the old AEBSn to the new one by Ethernet, and then, configure them for a "roaming" network. In this type of network allow you to roam with a portable wireless device and still be on the "same" network, and 2) Configure the old AEBSn to extend the wireless range of the newer one in what is called a dynamic WDS. The major difference between a WDS and the roaming configuration is that the two base stations would not need to be interconnected by Ethernet.
Can I hook the 2 up together to boost up the range or coverage of the network?
Yes, both only one of the newer AEBSn's wireless radios. Most likely, it would need to be the 2.4 GHz radio as the signal can travel farther and not be impacted by objects ... like walls.
If so, how far apart do they have to be?
That would depend on what would be between them. In a room with no Wi-Fi obstacles, you could probably place the second AEBSn 50-75 feet away to boost the signal another 50-75 feet.
Also, does the main AEBS have to be as close possible to the modem in order to work better?
No.
my modem is in the basement in the mecanical room. What would be the best to get the best signal througout my house?
The best way would be to have the house wired for Ethernet, and then, place a Wireless Access Point (WAP) at each location that you would want wireless coverage.

Dual Band with PPPoE

I am having some network issues in my house and I would love to be able to set up a dual band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) network so that I can get the best speed for my Macs while still being able to use my iPhone, etc. at home. At my disposal: one 802.11n AEBS (2007 model, not dual band), one Time Capsule (2008 model, not dual band), and one 802.11n Airport Express (2008 model, not dual band). I had tried setting up a dual band network following Apple's instructions in Designing Airport Networks pdf but the kicker seems to be that I have PPPoE DSL and cannot put the unit into bridge mode with this setting. Two questions:
1. With my current hardware, is there a way to set up a dual band network?
2. Do the new AEBS/TC allow dual band mode when connected to a DSL modem using PPPoE?
Sorry, I am sure this is answered already elsewhere; I couldn't find the exact answer.
Any help is appreciate

1. With my current hardware, is there a way to set up a dual band network?
Yes. You have several options to choose from with the available equipment:
Note: ">" represents an Ethernet connection
1) Modem > Time Capsule (TC) > 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn)
2) Modem > TC > 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn)
3) Modem > AEBSn > TC
4) Modem > AEBSn > AXn
2. Do the new AEBS/TC allow dual band mode when connected to a DSL modem using PPPoE?
Yes. Only the device directly connected to the modem is required to be configured for PPPoE. All other routers should be configured as bridges.
You also have several variations of connecting base stations wirelessly as well.

Airport Extreme dual band and g WDS

I currently run an n and g network on two individual single radio airport extremes, both configured as access points. I have a couple remote AP Express units conected to the old g model airport extreme in WDS mode. I know, don't fix somethig not broken, but I'm thinking about consolidating my wireles base stations into a single new air port extreme. Since I have older g model air port express units I understand I need to set up WDS on the new airport extreme g radio/network, but I think I'm hearing that WDS on the g radio will also affect the new airport extreme's n radio network performance. Sorry but I'm having some difficulty finding any search or google results, most being years old.
Just wanted to confirm that the n and g radios and networks in the new air port extreme base station are independent.... or not.
I am currently not running any Lion computers, but several are 10.6.8 and I'm using airport utility 5.5.3.
Thanks

So the two aiport extreme radios are not independent?
They are independent, but if you configure the device for WDS, you will in effect have two "g" wireless bands.
With WDS settings, the 5 GHz band will only operate on wireless "a" mode.....54 Mbps..... which is the same speed as wireless "g".
The 2.4 GHz band will operate as if it were a "g" wireless router.
The bottom line is that while you will have two bands, both will operate at "g" speeds. So, there would be no advantage at all to even having dual band if you use WDS. You gain nothing over what you already have.

Airport Extreme dual-band 802.11n Wi-Fi & new XBOX 360 Slim

I'm having issues getting my new XBOX 360 Slim to connect to my dual-band Airport Extreme when using wireless n. I can get it to connect with n but my connection speed on the 360 drops to 1 or 2 mbps, even though the signal remains strong. I can see the speed drop of the 360 using Airport Utility on my laptop. All other devices on the network are fine. When I switch the 2.4 GHz band on the AE to b/g only, then the connection speed on the 360 shoots up to 54 mbps. That of course neuters the rest of my wireless n devices to g speed since most connect to the 2.4 GHz band due to the limited distance of the 5 GHz band.
Short of finding a solution, my next step is to try a different router brand. I'd rather stick with Apple, but have had more issues with 2 AE models than all of my other Apple hardware combined.

I had a three year old XBOX 360 before with a newer external n adapter. I use the 360 to do a lot of streaming video from my computers so the n definitely came in handy. The external n adapter worked great with the AE. Unfortunately that 360 died so I bought one of the new ones as a replacement. They must be using different hardware for their new internal n adapter than their previous external n adapter.
My first step will be exchanging the new 360 tonight to see if it is isolated to just that machine. If it isn't, I'm going to try a new Logitech router just to see if that makes a difference.
Again, I can maintain a connection to n just fine with the AE, but the speed is dismal. In g the speed and connection are just fine.
I have not tried disabling encryption simply because I wouldn't run my router without it.

Can an airport express be used as a wired ethernet out port?

I moved my cable boxes which require a wired Cat5 or Cat6 internet connection. Can I setup an airport express by connecting to my home internet wirelessly (via my airport extreme base station) then using the ethernet port on the express to provide a wired access point to my internet for my cable box without having to run a cat5/6 cable all the way from my internet router to the cable box? Or does the extreme only broadcast internet wirelessly?

It can be used as a bridge for ethernet. however, both performance and reliability is extremely bad.
Highly recommended running a wire to your new switch.

Dual band network fro iMac Ethernet

To avoid bandwidth reduction and running long cables, can I establish a dual band network by using my new AEBS 802.11n to signal my iMac and then link my old AEBS 802.11g for a separate network from the ethernet port on the iMac. My difficulty is getting around a stone wall in the house and the difficulty of repositioning the new AEBS.

Yes that is possible. Just be aware that the firewall on the iMac and OS X's Internet Sharing may introduce unexpected difficulties.

Airport exytreme dual band with a wired ethernet card

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