Airport Graphite and G4 1.0 dual MDD upgrade

I have a G4 1.0 dual MDD on OS 10.4.5 with Airport card and using an original Graphite Base station. All has worked just fine with occaisional reset needed on a SBC DSL Speedstream modem. Will I benefit in download speed in real time to upgrade to a newer Airport Extreme Basestation or is the Airport card B a bottleneck? Could I replace the Airport card with a PCI wireless G access point in the tower and gets things to work faster or is it really a waste of money (both new base station and PCI card) for negible gains? Main concern is OS updates are being packaged with 124 MB files and I just spent over 2 hours completing the downloads and installs for OS 10.4.3 to OS 10.4.5. Will a "new" wireless setup really cut the time down by a factor of 4 or 5? Thanks

The bottleneck is the ISP. Most ISP services have effective download speeds slower than the ABS.

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The difference between the airport graphite and snow??

I bought an old graphite base station hopeing to use the airport card inside to use in my MDD Mac. The Lucent card functioned perfectly except it has a built-in antenna so you can not the antenna cable in the MDD nor can you fully close the access door.. The antenna is where the receptacle should be. I understand there is a different card in the snow (not extreme) base station. Does any one know whether that card has a built in antenna or a receptacle for an external antenna? I know there are the old style airport cards on eBay foe about $30 but old airport base stations run about $5 at garage sales.

The antenna is built into the case in the Snow model. Click here for more information.
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Airport Graphite and Extreme

Hi: I use an Airport Extreme to give access to all my network computer (wireless and wired) to the internet. Recently I had to find the way to extend the wireless coverage in my office using an old AP graphite I had. I just connected it to one Ethernet Port and then wireless computers out of the range of the AP Extreme, connect to the Graphite instead. The point is that there is some kind of conflict that makes the computers to lose the access to the internet but not to the network. It seems to be the fact that both have the same IP address (10.0.1.1) but I've not been able to change it to the Graphite one. To recover access, I have to restart both AP units and voila. But when I use my laptop somewhere else and I come back and try to connect it to the internet, I have to restart the APs. Please help me to configure the AP in the right way to solve this issue. Thanks.

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How can I get AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow 4.2.5 to work with OS10.6?

I've upgraded to the latest version of Mac OS and now AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow 4.2.5 won't run. Any suggestions on how to either run this utility or otherwise get access to my old Snow Dual Airport via another method? Airport Utility doesn't see the device, despite repeated scans. My computer and iPad connect no problem to the device, but both iPod and iPhone won't take and hold an IP address. (If any one can help me solve this issue, I can live without access the Airport.)
Thanks,

I've upgraded to the latest version of Mac OS and now AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow 4.2.5 won't run. Any suggestions on how to either run this utility or otherwise get access to my old Snow Dual Airport via another method?
Unfortunately, you will need another Mac running a much earlier version of OS X to be able to install AirPort Admin Utility and make any settings chances to the router.
Since the normal life of a wireless router is around 5-6 years of use, now might be the time to consider a new router that will provide far better performance than the older Graphite/Snow AirPort.

Quicksilver ethernet and extreme AirPort graphite

I have have an original airport graphite. I use the graphite airport to run my home network. I have a Dual 800 power pc g4 "quicksilver" desktop with an original airport card, running 10.4.11, a 2 GHZ Intel Core Duo iMac with an AirPort Extreme Airport card,running 10.4.11. A 2.1 GHZ intel Core Duo Mac Book with an AirPort Extreme Airport card running 10.5.7, and a first generation ipod touch running 3.0.I have a DSL modem from Qwest
If I buy an air port extreme can I take out the original airport card from the quicksilver and run an ethernet cable from the airport extreme to the quicksilver and gain some faster performance? My other two macs should function just fine with the a wireless extreme and I in theory get much better range with my ipod touch
will this work? will it be difficult to set up or should it just be prety much plug and play

well since no one saw fit to answer my question the answer is yes! it does work I drove to the local best buy......if you can call local 120 miles, purchased the air port extreme drove home and had everything running in 35 minutes, and the touch hauls ***

Need AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow

hey there.....any help would be greatly appreciated.....
I ave passed along my graphite base station to my brother in law for his new iMac and it seems he needs the "AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow" to get it set up. The new "Airport Utility" doesn't seem to recognize it. Is the utility still available for download? I can't seem to find it anywhere?
Another option....is it possible to copy and paste the utility into my iDisk and have him download it from there?? Not sure it that will work??
Again...many thanks for any help anyone can offer!!!!!

AirPort Admin Utility, version 4.2, which works with Graphite and Snow base stations, can be found within the download of AirPort 4.2 (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/airport42formacosx1033.html).
I tried it on my MacBook running Mac OS X 10.4.10, with a Graphite base station, and it works fine, so far as I can tell.
I did not actually try to install AirPort 4.2 using the installer, because I was afraid of messing with my system when all I wanted was the utility. Here is how to get it:
- Download the disk image AirPortSW42.dmg from the Web page mentioned above. If the installer launches, quit the installer.
- Double-click the disk image to mount a volume named "AirPort 4.2 Update."
- Within the AirPort 4.2 Update window, ctrl-click on "AirPortSW.pkg."
- Select "Show Package Contents."
- Open the "Contents" folder.
- Double-click the "Archive.pax.gz" file, which causes an "Archive.pax" file and an "Archive" folder to be extracted to the desktop.
- Open the "Archive" folder, the "Applications" folder within it, and the "Utilities" folder within that.
- The AirPort Admin Utility is there. You can move it to Applications/Utilities and discard everything else that was downloaded.
Thanks to Tesserax (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5136389&#5136389) for recently explaining how to extract an AirPort utility from a download package.
Although I have never seen "AirPort Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow," it probably was the same thing as AirPort Admin Utility, just renamed.

WDS with Airport express and Dual ethernet Airport base

Can the airport express and dual ethernet airport base create a wds? I can't find the options on the airport base's software.

coloradoapple, Welcome to the discussion area!
The Dual Ethernet (snow) AirPort base station (ABS) does not support WDS.
Only the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) and AirPort Express (AX) support WDS.

Whats the Largest Drive and/or Partition on G4 MDD/Fw800 dual 1.25?

Whats the Largest Drive and/or Partition on G4 MDD/Fw800 dual 1.25?
Hi, Protools user here, using my G4MDD/Fw800 and Macbookpro, i like of course to have interchangability, if i can.
1- Whats the maximum size internal partition my G4 can read? one drive of 750gig?
2- Whats the maximum size Fw800 Drive my G4 can read? one drive of 750gig?
2a is it the same for fw400?
3- Are there 2 separate internal buses on my G4 MDD?
I just bought a 500 gig hitachi, IDE, popped it in an OWC fw800 case and was having errors dragging huge folders from my g4's internal 233gb drive to the Fw800 on the external bus
Hope everybody understands my questions. Appreciate some help.
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For 10.3, the HFS+ size limit is 16TB.
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The Mirrored Drive Doors Macs are not limited to built-in IDE/ATA 128 GB Drive size limit.
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There are two IDE/ATA Busses for hard drives in your Mirrored drive Doors G4. The front pair of drives are ATA/66, the rear two are ATA/100. The CD/DVD nest is supported by a separate ATA/33 Bus.
Drive size limits do not explain why you are getting errors. More information is needed.

"problem reading configuration" Bug in Admin for Graphite and Snow

Background: Bought a used "graphite" (M5757 SN PW9495EYH93) for a friend with only dial-up access. Downloaded Airport Admin for Graphite and Snow. System seemed to be operating fine - I could see it on WiFi and even connect. Of course I was missing some passwords, so I needed to get it back to default settings by doing a hard reset-"perform a local reload". Support article HT2439 provided instructions: I plugged in a wired connection.
But "Auto" address selection didn't seem to work - I kept getting "problem reading configuration" messages.
So I tried "Manual" for entering IP address and password.
OOPS! When selecting "manual" for setting the IP address, the IP address triplets entered were reversed when saved in the device. Or at least they display reversed in AirPort Admin, while other nearby AirPort addresses display correctly.
For instance, when I set the device to the Apple default address of 192.42.249.13, the address displayed in AirPort Admin was 13.249.42.192. This was reliably repeatable, and worked around by entering the desired triplets in reverse order. Once I inverted the triplets and got the IP address I expected into the AirPort, configuration proceeded smoothly.
This bug can lead to frustration finding and reconfiguring AirPort devices, communicating over ethernet (since of course the network address and subnet masks work perfectly, but not as expected) and displaying/changing configurations. I didn't spend more time investigating the boundaries of the problem after finding the work-around and getting this particular AirPort working, but the problem might be the cause of some of the other configuration issues that seem to crop up regularly.

Hello Dudlington. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
The "Airport Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow" seems to be at version 4.2.5 for OS X and was released in April 2008, yet only supports the "dual ethernet" versions.
Not to worry, the "Dual Ethernet" and "Snow" actually refer to the same model. The 802.11b Snow is the predecessor to the 802.11b/g AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) and followed the "Graphite."

AAU for graphite and snow can't find base station

I've always been able to find an answer on the discussion lists before, but I don't see where anyone has posted about quite this same problem:
I have a dual-ethernet (aka snow) airport that I'm using with a new model MacBook Pro. I'm using the Airport Admin Utility for Graphite and Snow (AAU for G&S) to manage the airport, and all had been working well until the past couple of days. I was having signal problems with the MacBook Pro but not with my old ibook G3. IStumbler showed more people in my apartment building were using the channel I had set so I thought I'd switch in case that was the problem. AAU for G&S on the MacBook Pro couldn't recognize the base station but the old AAU on the G3 ibook did so I changed my channel and the signal must have improved enough for the MacBook Pro since I was then able to connect to the Internet with the MacBook. But I still couldn't find the base station with the AAU for G&S.
I did a hard reset (or the equivalent) per support doc "Resetting the AirPort Base Station (Dual Ethernet)" and tried to reload the software per another support doc "AirPort Base Station (Dual Ethernet) : How to reload software from Mac OS X". When I hooked the MacBook Pro up to the airport by ethernet, I still couldn't find the airport in the AAU for G&S. And now after the reset, I can't see it anymore on the old utility on the G3 ibook.
While the MacBook Pro was hooked up to the airport by ethernet, I was able to connect to the Internet that way, and I'm wirelessly connected to the airport right now (which is hooked up to my cable modem). But if I need to change my channel again or do something else to the base station, I'm stuck--the AAU for G&S can't find it.
Is anyone else still trying to hold on to their Snow airport and either run into or solved this kind of problem? Very grateful for any assistance!

Thanks to everyone who read my question, but I seem to have found a solution to this which only goes to show if you mess around enough ... Anyway when my AAU for G&S couldn't find the base station by scanning, I had tried using the "Other" option and entering the IP address that I saw in the Network Preferences Advanced window. That didn't work, but this morning I notice that there was another IP address, slightly different for Router. Since my Airport Snow is functioning as my router to my cable modem, I tried that IP address and voila, I can bring up the settings on my base station and reconfigure them. I've done this several times successfully so far. Of course I now may have to get rid of the old Airport since the network interference in my apartment building is now getting ridiculous, and I'm hoping the the newer Airport Extreme will help me to find a wireless space that will work consistently without dropouts.

Parallel WiFi Graphite and AE

Got Airport Express set-up for parallel wireless network. I have cable
modem>router>gigabye switch with the AE plugged into the router. All
is working well for my private, no kids, wifi network:)
Question: Would it do me anygood to plug the AE into the switch? My
guess the answer is no. Both the MacBookPro and the Squeezebox music
device support "G" and they are in 50 feet of the AE. They aren't
gigabyte ethernet wired for sure, but would the AE pump out faster
over "G" out of the AE via the faster switch?
Also the AE is set-up to automatically choose channel. Is it smart
enough to choose the right channel that is furthest away from my
Graphite and some other fellow's wifi next door? I'm getting some
pumping of the signal strength by one bar.
The good news there are no dropouts on the music now, and the browser/SlimServe now sends commands to the 1.25 Dual PowerMac acting as a server faster and I get faster refresh on the browser remote control.

I answered my own question. Running the AE through the switch as opposed to the router works. Don't know if it really makes any difference, but I assume data is moving to the AE faster from the 1.25 Dual to the switch, and then to the AE. The AE of course would still be the bottleneck on its way to feeding the Squeezebox.

A Time Capsule, Airport Express and AT&T 2Wire walk into a bar...

Alas, I'm sure this question has been asked before, but my reserach keeps turning up separate answers. So I thought I'd turn to this forum for some advice. Ultimately I'm seeks suggestions on various ways to configure my network to allow easy backups, connection two rooms, and wirelessly print from anywhere.
I have a:
Time Capsule (dual band) - used for Time Machine backups
Airport Express (older)
and new 2Wire 3800HGV-B wireless modem/router from AT&T (for U-verse internet/TV)
My room configuration is:
Living room with TV, internet connected DVD player, and new AT&T 2Wire Wireless U-verse modem
Home office with 2 desktop comptuers (no wireless cards) and a USB printer.
Two roaming laptops which move around the rest of the house
The livingroom and the office can't be connected with a physical wire.
What I was hoping to do was setup my office with the Time Capsule in the office as a wired hub, and then use it as a wirelessly bridge to the 2Wire network. But as I understand it, a Time Capsule can't be used as a bridge to a non-Apple product. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Alternately I could always get wireless cards for the desktop computers, but this leaves the printer.
I've read suggesitons of people who have used their TC as the primary router, disabling wireless on their AT&T 2Wire, and hooking the two together with ethernet. Others who just join the TC to the 2Wireness network. But really what I'm seeking is a way to join the two rooms.
Any thoughts? Am I asking the right questions or providing the right information?
Much thanks,
dana.

So I figured I'd go with an initial suggestion and attached my TC via ethernet to the 2Wire modem/router in my living room, and make the TC my primary wireless router.
Good plan
since both will be in the same room, I assume I need to disable wireless on the 2Wire
Correct
What kind of configuration do I need to do on the TC, or do I just following the wizard and select 'Extend existing network'?
You can follow the guided setup or I can give you a step by step manual setup. In either case, you will configure the TC to "Create a wireless network".
("Extend" is only used if the TC connects using wireless only....you will be using Ethernet from one of the LAN <-> ports on the 2-Wire to the WAN port (world icon) on the TC.
The guided setup will normally sense that the TC is connected to another router and suggest that the TC be configured in Bridge Mode, which is the correct setting. Otherwise, select the Bridge Mode option when it is presented.
Note....If you have a newer dual band TC, the Guest Network option cannot be enabled when the TC is configured in Bridge Mode. So, if you want a "Guest" network, maybe the 2-Wire could provide that service.
Should I attach this (via ethernet) to the TC or the 2Wire?
Pick a LAN <-> port on either one, your choice, whichever is easier
What should the AT&T DVR be connected to?
I'm not familiar with an AT&T DVR, but if it connects via Ethernet, you can connect to a LAN <-> port on either the 2-Wire or the TC
For printing, my plan is to attach the printer through USB to the Airport Express and then connect that wirelessly to the TC network (though my first attempt at this failed to connect).
Suggest that you get the TC up and working smoothly. Then tackle the Express.

How to setup a network with a time capsule, airport extreme and an airport express?

Hello.
First I want to make it clear all my knowledge off wireless networks is going on forums on the internet, before a couple of months ago I didn't realize wireless networking was so intricate so forgive my lack of experience.
I just bought a time capsule (today, 4th generation), I have an airport extreme bought in January 2011 (they just got refreshed so mine is now one generation old) and the same with my airport express (bought in January).
I originally bought the airport extreme and setup a wireless network using the dual band setup. I have no issues with the 5ghz network and most of my devices run on wireless n so I had no issues with them. my only two wireless devices that can not use the 5ghz network is my iPhone 4's which use wireless n but it has to use the 2.4ghz signal. Problem is in my apartment I am bombarded with other peoples 2.4ghz networks so my signal is terrible 10-15 feet from the airport extreme. Near my extreme I am getting signal ranges around 15mb to 20 mb. When Im about 15 minutes away in my bedroom (so one wall in between) my signal plummets to 1-2 mb. sometimes as low as 0.17mb which is not good. I got the airport express to extend my range and placed it in my bedroom. . After setting up the airport express the signal still was terrible. I researched and realized that if the signal strength ***** then the airport express cant boost the signal as much which makes sense in hind sight. I then researched setting up a roaming network or a WDS network. Per research a WDS network was not recommended b/c I was not using a wireless g network. I attempted to create a roaming network and then realized that you can not use an airport express in a roaming network. This has led me to now buy a time capsule.
First, in my setup do I or should I have the time capsule as the primary? I believe its more powerful than the airport extreme but Im not sure if that matters in a network that is distributing wifi from ethernet (thats how I am connected the extreme and the time capsule)
so can I do
cable modem ETHERNET Airport extreme(in the living room where its always been and works great in that immediate area) (3rd generation) ETHERNET Time Capsule(in the bedroom where I usually get poor signal) (4th gen) and then an airport express connecting to the 2.4ghz signal in the bedroom where the time capsule also is EXTENDING the wireless range?
or should it be the time capsule first bc its more powerful?
I tried setting up this setup and everything is green but I don't know if what I am doing is actually working on full cylinders b/c I am confused on some aspects. mainly on the airport extreme which is the primary device I have under the wireless tab selected create a wireless network and on the time capsule it also is on create a wireless network with the network name being exactly the same. Should it be changed to extend a wireless network? and then bridge mode? Should I have different channels for the different devices that are on 2.4ghz?
I am open to hear ANY suggestions, or ideas to improve my setup. PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!, lol its been 5 long months of poor internet in my bedroom where my wife has her setup with a roku box and wifi tv (I have those hardwired for now) but mainly for her iPad and iPhone b/c its so bad sometimes she has to turn wifi off and use 3G. I have same issue in my bathroom, sometimes Im getting decent signal and sometimes its so bad I can't open the link on an RSS feed in safari which I have to assume doesn't require that much bandwith?
I have no wireless g devices. The only device I need 2.4ghz for is my iPhone 4's but they both use n also. All my other deivices connect on 5ghz and my 5ghz network is decent, a lot better than the 2.4ghz network atleast.

You wrote so much that I find it hard to address all your concerns. However, here are some thoughts:
1) I'd configure the Time Capsule as the "main" router, connected directly to your cable modem. Configure it to "create a wireless network" and to "Allow this network to be extended". Configure the other devices to "Extend a wireless network".
2) Put any device that's extending the network half way between the main router and the wireless clients. If the signal from the main router is weak at the cllient's location, then the extending device will also receive a weak signal.

Using a current Time Capsule with Airport Extreme and Airport Express Older generation

I am looking to achieve a fast local network that allows streaming of music and video. I have bought a Time Capsule to replace the Telstra router (Thomson Router) by linking it using ethernet cable and then set up a network that also uses and older airport extreme and express router (g standard).
It would appear that the local network speed is slow - how can I assess the connection speed in the local network - both wireless and for ethernet? I believe that there is a speed indication on my two older macs running OSX 10.5 but not in OSX 10.6. Is there a tool to assess the local network speed?
The current set up works less well than previously only using the Thomson router, so the initial results are very disappointing. Not even streaming music seems to work and it stutters to halt.
I had expected that the dual band functionality would allow fast local connections where needed. What do I need to change?
Thanks you.
Tom

Hi Bob,
The two old airports (extreme and express) are connected wirelessly to the time capsule base station with the following use:
- round extreme base station supports a printer only - remote WDS indicated in set up
- airport express supports remote speakers - set up does not indicate WDS status
I noticed in another note to provide a second network name to 5GHz network and connect the modern computers, ipad (seems to be able to connect) and apple tv to the 5 GHz network, leaving the other on the separate network. Also the two computers, apart from the laptops are connected via ethernet to use the GB ethernet, but I am not sure whether that speed is achieved or whether a firewire connection between the two would be better. use examples are:
1. Wirelessly I am trying to use three speakers - computer, apple tv and express - to have to listen to the same music in three rooms.
2. Over ethernet, I am using the the powermac as a file server to mac mini, but would like to be bale to access photo libraries (both Iphoto and Aperture) ideally over the network. It works well with starting the powermac in target disk mode but seems slow over what should be a very fast ethernet network.
The connection with the service providers router and time capsule is bridged - seems to be the only way of providing internet access - however, it also seems to allow for shared devices to be visible across the two time capsule and the Thomson network.
Obviously, this will need some more experimentation but any input would be appreciated.
Thank you and regards,
Tom
PS> Timezone wise I am currently living in Australia - must change my profile one day.....

I bought a new MacBook Pro several months ago. I keep losing my wireless connection (my wife, sitting several feet from me has no problem with her iPad2). I find the quickest fix ix to turn Airport off and back on. Very annoying. Suggestions please?

I bought a new MacBook Pro several months ago. I keep losing my wireless connection (my wife, sitting several feet from me has no problem with her iPad2). I find the quickest fix ix to turn Airport off and back on. Very annoying. Suggestions please?

What kind of wireless router are you using? more importantly which protocol are you connecting with? Are you and wife connecting using the 2.4Ghz band? or do you have a dual band router that offers the 5GHZ band? Are you both connecting vie 802.11 a/b/g or n?
The best thing to do is to go into SYSTEM PREFERENCES and select NETWORK, then select AIRPORT and click on the ADVANCED button.
Under the AirPort tab you should delete all the preferred networks and only add back in your network with the proper security settings and passwords.
If you hold down the option key on your keyboard while clicking on the airport icon at the top on your macbook pro. you'll seesome data that will tell you what band and mode you're connecting at, as well as in an indication of signal strength (RSSI) if you write down and post back that information it'll tell us what's going on.

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