AirPort: Setup over WAN/Bonjour?

Hi all
Can anyone explain me the difference between these 2 features of the AirPort Extreme:
- Allow setup over WAN
- Allow setup over the Internet using Bonjour
What's the difference? And what should I do to setup the Base Station over WAN or Bonjour?

This is a guess, but I think that for the second option to be active, the first option would have to be active.

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By checking the box "Allow setup over WAN" you can now configure the base station over the Ethernet network connected to the WAN port (Wide Area Network port) of the Airport Express.
AirPort Utility 6.x: Give your base station or AirPort Time Capsule a name and password
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This assumes your office is wired to the Airport Express with Ethernet.
Once configured, you can connect to the base station wirelessly.
See the Setup Guide here:
manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1613/en_US/airport_express_80211n_2nd_gen _setup_guide.pdf
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Open AirPort Utility, select the AirPort Extreme, and click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab located just below the row of icons
Remove any check mark that might be in the box next to Allow Setup over WAN
Click Update to save your settings and the AirPort Extreme will restart in 25-30 seconds
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I have setup a dynamic global hostname and am sharing the connected disk over the WAN with Bonjour, and am able to backup files to the disk connected to the airport extreme over the internet when away from home. Very handy. My question is: are these file transfers encrypted? I've been searching around, but have been unable to find a definitive answer.
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iBartley wrote:
This is the main router. I have forwarded 548. I am trying to use the public Ip from ISP. I have am connecting from a windows machine. Can I still connect through icoud?
Ok, there are several things wrong here.
1. If the AE is the main router you do not port forward.. you simply tick that hard disk will have wan access.
In the airport utility you tick, share disk over WAN.
Now I don't have the new AC model but I expect it will be the same.
2. The public IP from the ISP is generally dynamic and keeps changing.. unless you pay for a static IP. It is hard to get dyndns working for the AE.. I used to think impossible but Tesserax has been able to do it.
3. Windows cannot access the AE using AFP protocol.. when you tick the share disk with wan.. only AFP protocol is exposed.. because it is reasonably secure.. SMB (windows) protocol is not shared with WAN ever.. it is only shared in LAN.. and most ISP block the ports due to the internet containing several zillion windows computers with sharing turned on and no security.. The entire internet would collapse if they allowed SMB.
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Port 548 mentioned is AFP.. not SMB.
Only the Mac can access the AE hard disk.. so using BTMM makes good sense.
4. The only way I would recommend you attempt remote access via windows is using a vpn router.. and put the AE into bridge mode and access directly via vpn to the whole network.. this is a professional solution and is the way any buisness would do it. It is secure and any computer or ipad or iphone with vpn client can access the network.

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