AirPort Utility can't see either AEBS or AirPort Express using either comp.

I have an AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) and an AirPort Express (APE). The dsl connects to the AEBS via ethernet (in the first slot), and the AEBS connects to the desktop via ethernet (in the second slot; it has no AirPort card). The PowerBook (PB) connects to the network via its AirPort card, and the APE is used to extend the network range.
All of this worked as of last night.
This morning when I woke the PB, it wouldn't connect to the network automatically. I tried to connect manually, but it wouldn't accept the password. (Maybe I'd forgotten, when's the last time I had to enter it?) I went to the desktop to set up the AEBS to reset the password. Both the AEBS and AirPort Express showed up on AirPort Utility (AU) on the desktop before doing so.
After resetting the password, neither showed up in AU. (I suppose it's not surprising that the APE wouldn't, but the AEBS is connected via ethernet, and the ethernet is working or I couldn't connect here as set up.) I get the message that AU can't detect any Apple wireless devices. I rescanned several times with no luck. And I have pressed the reset button on the AEBS to no avail.
I also can't see either the AEBS or the APE with the PB, which does have an AirPort card, as I mentioned.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Theirry, I had (among all the other things I'd done) already pushed the reset button for a little while, but that didn't work. So, not knowing what else to do, I pushed it and held it while I counted to ten three times, and that worked. Probably one could get away with less.
After that, I had to start over again with the AEBS on AU, but I gave it the same network name and the password I thought I remembered, and the APE rejoined it automatically.
I hope that helps.

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