AirTunes on Express, 3rd Party Wireless

Hi all,
I just purchased a refreshed AirPort Express. What i am trying to do is get it to connect to my 2Wire wireless DSL base station and use AirTunes (and maybe even print).
My 2Wire System has no WEP or WPA protection (my nearest neighbor is a mile away, so i am not worried about it). In the AirPort Admin Utility, I have it set to "Join an Existing Wireless Network" and that works just fine. I can get it to connect and i can see it when i look it up through the 2Wire.
My Problem is, that when i Bring up iTunes, it doesn't give me the bar to choose where I want the audio to go.
I tried opening up the UDP port (5353?) and i still had no success. Then i tried setting the Express up as a DMZ (no firewall) still nothing.
anyone have any clues on how to get this to work?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

More Info
Alright. Fiddling around some more:
I can get the printer to work (in Client or Home Router Mode).
and I CAN get airtunes to work, but only when it is in the Home Router Mode (and i connect to in in the airport menu)
helpful?

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