AIW 9700 Pro boot up problems.

I was wondering if anyone has a setup with the same board-video card. I cant get this card to work without hot pluggin the power cord to the video. I have tried a few PSU's now and nothing seems to work.
Im hearing that this is a board problem. Is MSI aware of this? Anything being done about it? I would love to keep this MSI board, but if something is not working then i guess its Asus time.

Hi,
Is this a new build with all new components?
This would seem to have PSU written all over it. Is it just powering down, or are you getting "Reds" on the D-Bracket - if so, what are they? Is the card ATI "Built" or "Powered By".
Might be a good idea to check connector power cable (for VGA card) for "Iffy" pins. (Sorry about this - but you never know!)
Bonz is probably right though, although it looks a PSU problem - yours seems up to spec - and you say you've tried a few!
BTW, unplugging the mem and switching on with no sticks fitted - at all - could possibly give you the same problem (inability to boot - notwithstanding), so unplugging them would prove nothing.
Axel

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this problem is on my friends pc which is exactly the same as my pc except his ati 9700 pro card is one of the cards that came out within 3 months after it was a brand new card last year or whenever they were released.
ati 9700 pro and 865PE Neo2 FISR2 bios 1.9.
sometimes with games the video goes black and just seems to freeze, the pc is running, but no video signal. the only way to fix it is to reboot with the reset button on the front of the case. happens with no overclocking and running defaults. will be playing never winter nights and every hr or so this happens. tried another 9700 pro card with no problems what so ever.
have heard that the early ati 9700 pro cards have problems with this mobo, and later serial numbers don't. the card with problem was gotten within 3 months after it came out last year. the card that works was new as of the last 2 months.
does anyone have a suggestion othger then new mobo and new ati card? Will flashing the card to make it a 9800 pro fix the issue?

There was a Well known Issue with some of the 9700-Pro's, But Another thing that I read was that the early Board's Had Very Thin PCB's (As they are 1 Layer Less then all of the Rest) and these were the Rev. A1 Boards, Go look in SANDRA Load AGP-PCI-Cardbus Information Module (NOT Vidio System Info) And Scroll to AGP, and Under OEM Harware ID Look across and see if it says REV_A1, if it Does, it may be one that has this Problem. And to Help with the thin PCB Where it is Loose (Looses Contact with the AGP Slot) He Can Try to Gently Push and wiggle the Card some (To achieve Better Contact)..And if this is Not the Case, Than he has another Early Card Problem, as this is a responce from one of the ATI techs.>>>Dated Dec 24, 2003 at 01:10 PM reply
Hi David,
This video card has a know problem with the Intel 865 chipset. The only ati cards that work have to have a serial # with -30 at the end or higher or they will not work. Because this card is discontinued our supplier cannot gaurantee a -30 card as a replacement. We can only exchange for a different item within the first 15 days so the only thing I can suggest is to see if you have a friend that may want to buy the card as there is probably nothing wrong with it and then buy another one. Any of the new 9600 or 9800 series don't have this problem. If you have any other questions let me know. Thanks alot.
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I had seen other with problems getting the 8X AGP to work with this mobo, but i cant get anything to work with it!!!
What else can I do? Is there someting fundamental I have missed?
I am thinking of sending the KT4 Ultra back to the shop and getting a mobo which works with the 9700! Any Ideas ?
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Thanx maesus
1. v1.1
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Originally posted by NovJoe
medafor,
I not trying to pull a fast one on PSU problems, just that it may be one of the possible caused so I expected no finger pointings with regards to the previous post.
Darakiss,
The best way to get good airflow, remove your side case panel and get a good old fan to blow the hell out of it and test to confirm if it's heat concern .
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I have been building my own P.C's for years. Starting with a 386sx, a huge 2mg of ram and Windows 3.11
Everything is connected as it should be.

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The Radeon mostly worked for over a year, [trouble booting cold] now it does'nt. [not with my MSI]
The card works with my old board, LEX BN790E via KT266A, 512mb, AMD XP1700+ and all extras.
that is suggesting to me either your PSU is failing, or it is a Poor PSU with over-optimistic amp ratings (eg Q-Tec). it will all appear to work fine on your older board, as that has lower power requirements, have a look in my sticky Is your problem caused by your PSU? for more info and advice.
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Could people please read the entire post and NOT just the title.
that was a bit rude. people try to help by asking questions and giving suggestions. making responses like that is more likely to make people ignore this topic. Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.

AIW 9700 Pro boot up problems.

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