ALE & BAPI communication

Hello,
When coming to ALE is it preferable to have an intercompany ALE communication...I know its normally Intra company....?
SAme with BAPI is intercompany BAPI communication preferrable...?
What might be the issues...?
Can any one help...
Thanks..
LArry

Hello,
Whether ALE or BAPI , is not a question of intracompany or B2B, but whether you need a sychronous (BAPI) or asynchronous (ALE) communication.
E.g. : there is more than one SAP-System in your company. You want to transfer changes of material master data form one system to the other. If you would do it synchronous, nobody could change a material master if the connection between the two systems is broken ( or the other system is down ) . A bad idea.. . So, you would do it via ALE.
Other case: you build a list on system 1 and need to read some data from system 2. There you could act with a bapi.
Regards Wolfgang

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IDOC/ALE/BAPI/BADI

Hi,
I want to understand the difference between IDOC/ALE/BAPI/BADI in context to a functional consultant.what is the role of each with an EXAMPLE.I want to basically understand with examples w.r.t SD or MM instead of theory which i could get in forum.
What is the role of a functional SD consultant, in these technology mentioned?
If i have to Test a BAPI or BADI what is that i should test???what is the T codes to be tested ? How to go about it??
Like in case of Order to cash testing, i will check if the sales cycle runs well, using T codes, Va01, vl01n, vf01.
Awaiting reply.
Thanks
LK

Hi Lekshmi,
I want to understand the difference between IDOC/ALE/BAPI/BADI in context to a functional consultant.
what is the role of each with an EXAMPLE.
I want to basically understand with examples w.r.t SD or MM instead of theory which i could get in forum.
What is the role of a functional SD consultant, in these technology mentioned?
Idoc/ALE/BAPI/BADI are basically advanced functionalities available in ABAP. These are treated as seperate module by somebody as "Cross Applications".
If we get in
IDOC is the concept which works for Third party communication from SAP.
Scenarion 1:
For example: I am a Buyer from your Company and i don't have SAP system where you have SAP Practice. I had given you one Order for which i need Confirmation and it needs to understand by my system. In this case IDOC is useful to transfer the confirmation details to my system understandable language. This can be acheived by any other outputs like e-Mail/Printout/Fax. But for these kind of Outputs thers is one limitation. those are in document form means if you take the print out it confirmation can be taken as a print out as a hard copy or soft coy by saving into PDF format. but that data cannot be accessed by my system to convert that data for further my own reporting purpose. if we use IDOCs.
These Idocs are transferred through Middleware and reach third party system (in this example my own system which does not have SAP) and store the details. later i can use that data how ever i can for my internal reporting purpose.
Scenario 2:
ALE: ALE also works like above, but the difference is this works for SAP-SAP communication. if i take the above example.... I have SAP System being a buyer and you have SAP sytem. Order Confirmaiton come from your system to my system.
If i have to Test a BAPI or BADI what is that i should test???what is the T codes to be tested ? How to go about it??
Like in case of Order to cash testing, i will check if the sales cycle runs well, using T codes, Va01, vl01n, vf01.
There is no such tcodes to test the enhancement functionality.
I assume you knows SAP SD.
If i take the example of SD Sales Order.
PO Number field is to explain the enhancement testing.
Your client enhanced the functionality of PO Number for which you are doing the testing for example.
now you get inside of the VA01 transaction and put all the headeer data and PO Number and press enter.
then based on the enhancement functionality system will act.
For example.. you had given AAA111 for Customer 123456.
You have entered Inside of VA01 and entered Sold and Shipto numbers as 123456. then entered PO number as BBB111 and press enter.
As per the enhancement you suppose to enter PO number as AAA111 for customer 123456, but you entered as BBB111.
Based on your enhancements system will through the error saying you entered wrong PO Number.
This is the testing part usually Functional Guy do.
Please let me know if you have any further clarification
Thanks & Regards
Venkat

Explain the situation for using ale , bapi ,session ,call transation, di

what is the use of bdcmsgcall,
if any erroe occur in the legacy records how to rectify it?
In what situation we can go for lsmw.
Kindly explain the situation's for using ale , bapi ,session ,call transation, direct input.

Hi ashok,
chk this.
the functionality of both idoc and bapi are same.
the main difference in BAPI is it is used for Third party application like JAVA, VB etc.
and IDOC is used transfer data from the SAP to sap or non-sap system.
For details refer the contents below
ALE
ALE is SAP proprietary technology that enables data communications between two or more SAP R/3 systems and/or R/3 and external systems. When a new enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution such as R/3 is implemented, companies have to interface the ERP system with legacy systems or other ERP systems.
ALE provides intelligent mechanisms where by clients can achieve integration as well as distribution of applications and data.
ALE technology facilitates rapid application prototyping and application interface development, thus reducing implementation time.
The ALE components are inherently integrated with SAP applications and are robust, leading to a highly reliable system.
ALE comes with application distribution/integration scenarios as well as a set of tools, programs, data definitions, and methodologies that you can easily configure to get an interface up and running.
BAPI
BAPIs provide a stable, standardized method for third-party applications and components to integrate into the Business Framework. These interfaces are being specified as part of SAP's initiative with customers, partners and leading standards organizations. Also, SAP has implemented the emerging Object Application Group (OAG) specifications with BAPIs.
Session method.
1) synchronous processing.
2) can tranfer large amount of data.
3) processing is slower.
4) error log is created
5) data is not updated until session is processed.
Call transaction.
1) asynchronous processing
2) can transfer small amount of data
3) processing is faster.
4) errors need to be handled explicitly
5) data is updated automatically
Session method is to populate the data by filling BDC structure
and keep as session to process from SM37 to post in appropriate Transaction.
Call transaction method is to post the data directly into the Transaction from an Executable program.
Session method SAP defined Function modules.
U can see more help on the differences in the SAP help.
hope u got an idea.
rgds
anver
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Ale - bapi interface

WE need to create applicant for hr recruitement from external data
via idoc and ale bapi .
first we generate the ale interface
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Check basic type ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA01 Basic type ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA01 exists Basic type ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA01 is released
Basic type ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA01 is linked to logical message ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA
No predecessors exist Check segment Z1ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA Segment Z1ZAPPLICANT_CREATEFROMDATA consistent Check segment Z1BPEDUC Segment Z1BPEDUC consistent Check segment Z1BPEMPLOY Segment Z1BPEMPLOY consistent Check segment Z1BPQUALI Segment Z1BPQUALI consistent Check segment Z1BPVACASS Segment Z1BPVACASS consistent Checking outbound function module ZALE_APPLICANT_CREATE has been generated Checking inbound function module ZIDOC_INPUT_ZAPPLICANT_CREATEF has been generated
Second we configure the partner profile
after that we do a test to create an applicant from an idocbut we have this message error
make an entry in all required fields even if we put data in
all fields of all idoc segments.
Best regards

Hi Mohamed,
first of all, welcome to SDN! Sorry, this is the wrong forum for your question, the experts in the <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/sdn/collaboration.sdn?node=linkFnode2-3&contenttype=url&content=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.sdn.sap.com%2Fforum.jspa%3FforumID%3D50">ABAP forum</a> will probably help you.
Regards, Stefan

ALE BAPI standardmaterial

hi,
first ,i m newhand in ALE BAPI
for the purpose of transfering MatMaster Data from one client to another i want to use BAPI(standardmaterial) in distribution model (BD64).
of course i have set the necessary points in IMG , but what confused me is how can i generate through the method of this object type ?
in the context of ALE/IDOC(MATMAS) we can generate idoc through Tcode bd10 , but in this bapi scenario(standardmaterial/save/idoc type:matmas_bapi) it seems not work .
please kindly suggest

HI,
Steps for outbound interface for material master
1, create port
2,create RFC destination
3,create partner profile(here you have to assign process code MATM to mesage MATMAS this prcess code will calls the outbound function module to fill the Idoc)
4 create CDM.
Otherwise refer the below link:
aptechnical.com/Tutorials/ALE/MaterialMaster/Distribute1.htm
Regards,
suresh.d

Post AccountngEmployeeExpnses ALE/BAPI

Hi all,
I have to send Employee expenses fro HR to FI using ALE/BAPI.
I configured ALE/BAPI and added object AcctngEmplyeeExpnses in distribution model.
I want to know what is transaction to post data from Sending system to reciever system.
Thanks
Shash

Hi Kanth,
You can use process code BAPI for your inbound message type ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP.
This process code will call function module IDOC_INPUT_ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP to post the above IDoc.
If you set to trigger by background job in the inbound partner profile (t/code WE20)then you need to run/schedule a job for program RBDAPP01. Otherwise, the IDoc will be process immediately.
Hope this will help.
Regards,
Ferry Lianto
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PURCHASE ORDER CREATION USING ALE ( BAPI )...

HI,
I DESPERATELY NEED SOME ADVISE IN CREATING A PURCHASE ORDER USING ALE....I AM VERY NEW TO ALE SO CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN IN STEPS WHAT TO BE DONE IN DETAIL....PLS HELP ME OUT IN THIS REGARD....I WILL GET SOME DATA AS INBOUND IDOCS AND I NEED TO CREATE A PURCHASE ORDER USING ALE USING BAPI( BAPI_PO_CREATE1 ).......HOPING A QUICK REPLY ASAP.....

Hi Gianluca,
I need to do the same as per the original post and your answers gets me halfway there. My remaining question is how to get the PO to output the PORDCR messgage on the outbound side (also a SAP system)? Or do you have to output the PO as an ORDERS message and map that to the PORDCR message in something like XI or other middleware?
Thanks for the help.
Johan

Regarding ( ALE-BAPI ) Configuration

Hello all............
Iam working on ALE & EDI for some time.
In the Distribution Model View ( BD64 ) there is a option 'ADD BAPI'.
I have gone through the documentation regarding this issue but could not get the exact break through which I was looking for.
Can anyone give me the exact steps for configuration to be followed right from creation of PORTS for Outbound & Inbound configuration of Purchase Orders using ADD BAPI.
Thanks in advance,
Ajay.

Hi Ajay,
The distribution model is used in ALE scenarios, which is basically master data replication. For transaction data like Purchase Orders there is no need to maintain the distribution model. Just maintain the partner profiles (WE20)!
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ALE-BAPI-Scenario to XI with several BAPIs

Hello
Descritpion of the current situation:
I configured an ALE Distribution model to transfer the HR payroll accounting data from an single SAP 4.7 system (WebAS 6.20) into 8 different SAP-Accounting-Systems (SAP R/3 4.6C). The model contains 14 BAPIs-Calls which are sent to SAP XI (3.0 SP17) and forwarded to the corresponding SAP-R/3-System, depending on the company-code.
SAP XI demands for each BAPI an RFC-Sender-Adapter which contains a programID. For each programID I have to configure an TCP/IP-RFC destination in the sender system which contains the corresponding programID. The ALE distribution model configuration (BD64) allows only to use logical systems as receiver. So I have to create 14 logical systems with the same identification as the 14 TCP/IP-RFC destinations. In addition I was only allowed to create TCP/IP-RFC destinations with a length of 10 characters, because the field for the logical system isn't longer.
My questions are the following:
1) Is there a possibility to avoid the creation of 14 logical systems in this situation?
2) Are there User-Exits or BADIs to map a different RFC-Destination in ALE before executing the BAPI-Call (i.e. depending on the logical system AND the BAPI)?
3) Does anybody have a similar model and what are the experiences?
Thanks
Beat Mueller

Hi
Here's the List of the Object-Methots and BAPIs for Checking:
CompanyCode.GetPeriod:
- BAPI_COMPANYCODE_GET_PERIOD
CostType.GetFixaccountList:
- BAPI_FIXACCOUNT_GETLIST
GeneralLedgerAccount.GetDetail:
- BAPI_GL_ACC_GETDETAIL
AcctngServices.DocumentDisplay:
- BAPI_ACC_DOCUMENT_DISPLAY
AcctngServices.PreCheckPayrollAccountAssign:
- BAPI_CODINGBLOCK_PRECHECK_HR
AcctngEmplyeeExpnses.Check:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP_CHECK
AcctngEmplyeeExpnses.Post:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP_POST
AcctngEmplyeeRcvbles.Check:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_REC_CHECK
AcctngEmplyeeRcvbles.Post:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_REC_POST
AcctngEmplyeePaybles.Check:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_PAY_CHECK
AcctngEmplyeePaybles.Post:
- BAPI_ACC_EMPLOYEE_PAY_POST
Customer.Find:
- BAPI_CUSTOMER_FIND
Customer.GetDetail2:
- BAPI_CUSTOMER_GETDETAIL2
Vendor.Find:
- BAPI_VENDOR_FIND
Vendor.GetDetail:
- BAPI_VENDOR_GETDETAIL
and here are the IDocs for Posting the Documents:
ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP.ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP02
ACC_EMPLOYEE_PAY.ACC_EMPLOYEE_PAY02
ACC_EMPLOYEE_REC.ACC_EMPLOYEE_REC02
Documentation:
4.6c:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/ae/1c4b6e5733d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
Our project had been stopped until now and will be reactivated in April. Have you been successfull posting the payroll form HR to FI/CO via SAP XI? How did you solve it?
Greetings
Beat Muller

RFC, IDOC, ALE, BAPI

HI everybody,
anybody can tell me
1.what is RFC and its use?
2.What is IDOC and its purpose?
3.What ie ALE and BAPI? please tell me their functions.
points will be rewared.

IDocs are simple ASCII data streams. When they are stored to a disk file, the IDocs
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The typical structured file has records, each record starting with a leading string that
identifies the record type. Their specification is stored in the data dictionary.
IDocs is the acronym for Interchange Document. This indicates a set of (electronic)
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customer in your customer master data file, or the IDoc is all the data of a single
invoice.
IDoc data is usually exchanged between systems and partners that are completely
independent. Therefore, the data should be transmitted in a format that can easily be
corrected by the computer operators. It is therefore mandatory to post the data in a
human readable form.
Nowadays, this means that data is coded in ASCII format, including numbers which
are sent as a string of figures 0 to 9. Such data can easily be read with any text editor
on any computer, be it a PC, Macintosh, UNIX System, S/390 or any internet
browser.
The information which is exchanged by IDocs is called a message and the IDoc is
the physical representation of such a message. The name messages for the
information sent via IDocs is used in the same ways as other EDI standards. .
Everybody who has ever dealt with interface programming, will find IDocs very
much like the hierarchical data files used in traditional data exchange.
International standards like the ODETTE or VDA formats are designed in the same
way as IDocs are.
Other EDI standards like XML, ANSI X.12 or EDIFACT/UN are based on a data
description language. They differ principally from the IDocs concept, because they
use a programming language syntax (e.g. like Postscript or HTML) to embed the
data.

SAP ALE / BAPI eWay

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I installed SAP ALE and BAPI eways. But In enterprise designer -> Repository > SeeBeyond -> eWays , these two eWays are not listed down. Is there any specific reason for this.
Please let me know any body have idea about this.?
Thanks.

Yes. Once the BAPI eWay is installed you start off by connecting to SAP to create a BAPI OTD using the OTD wizard.
Don't forget to copy the dll- and jar-files to you eDesigner and logicalhost as mentioned in the documentation for the eWay. Otherwise it will not work.
/Alex

BAPI communication between ECC & EP

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We have configured the connections, user managment in content adminsitration , we are getting the all the BAPI FM info from ECC during building the new iview, but when we try to preview the iview by giving the input to thr FM only the structure is coming data is not coming.
We have tested the FM from SE37 and able to get the dataset.
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Subhash.G

Hi ,
Problem is solved, while giving input in iview we have to give exact details like for customer number it stores like 0000000001, if we give only 1 it's won't interpet as it was in Data dictionary... but while testing in sm37 you can give as 1 for customer number.
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HR & PP intergration-ALE/BAPIs used?

Hi Experts,
My goal is to bring HR time data (Daily work schedules) over to PP for capacity planning.
SAP help says
"When defining shifts within Logistics (LO), the Daily Work Schedule at Logistics Work Center interface enables you to use daily work schedules from Time Management, which constitutes part of the Human Resources (HR) application component. You can use this data in Logistics (LO) to schedule orders and determine the available capacity of a work center. HR daily work schedules and break data must be read locally in the LO system. Therefore, the HR Time Management customizing tables T550A and T550P must be replicated to the LO system using ALE techniques ".
Can you tell me those names of ALEs used here?Can we use 'HRMD_A'?If so,how?
Thanks in advance & would appreciate for a quick reply.
-Ravi

Hi,MohanPemmasani
Thank your help.
1. About the ALE configration I have done correct, it test OK now.
2.I have try to do "Reset after termination", so I have below item settlement in 0000000011 document(when double click, enter to see the detail) , from"0000000012~~0000000016" is the result that I executed the "Reset after termination" operation.
    Document CoCd Pstng Date Typ Run Number Status               User name    Created on Time
0000000010 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Released             UX007814     18.01.2012 16:57:06
0000000012 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Reversal reset       UX007814     18.01.2012 17:13:50
0000000013 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Reversal reset       UX007814     18.01.2012 17:18:58
0000000014 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Reversal reset       UX007814     19.01.2012 11:21:38
0000000015 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Reversal reset       UX007814     19.01.2012 11:22:42
0000000016 SY   28.01.2012 PP 0000000011 Reversal reset       UX007814     19.01.2012 11:42:29
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Posting run PP 0000000011 cannot be posted: Incorrect status
Message no. 3G227
Diagnosis
Runs can only be posted if they have one of the following statuses:
32 All documents released
41 Document transfer has failed
35 Documents transfered
Run PP 0000000011 has another status and, therefore, cannot be posted.
4.I have read the notes you said, but it can't solve my problem.

ALE BAPI and more

1> what are BAPI PARAMETERS?
2> SHDB full form
3> What exactly FORMAT_MESSAGE Function Module does?
4> Mandatory fields for xd01, me21, material master , (regarding Recording)
5>what type of errors will BAPI throws.

hi,
1.what are BAPI PARAMETERS?
like othe rfM'S EXPOTING ,IMPORTING,TABLES ,exceptionsETC
2. SHDB full form
It is a tcode for recording it doesn't have any full form.
3 What exactly FORMAT_MESSAGE Function Module does?
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EXPORTING
ID = SY-MSGID
LANG = SY-LANGU
NO = SY-MSGNO
V1 = SY-MSGV1
V2 = SY-MSGV2
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V4 = SY-MSGV4
IMPORTING
MSG = LV_MSG
EXCEPTIONS
NOT_FOUND = 1
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4Mandatory fields for xd01, me21, material master , (regarding Recording)
to find the manditory fieldds got to paticular transaction and give values,if the system doesn't allow u to move to next screen for some fields consider those are manditory .
5.what type of errors will BAPI throws.
http://sapbrain.com/TUTORIALS/TECHNICAL/BAPI_tutorial.html

BAPI Communication Doubt

hi,
If i'm developing a BAPI for any composite application which will communicate with .NET/Java application(JCo or .NET Connector) to pass data.Assume this scenario is working fine with fetching data for material 100-200 material.Now in a day i added 10,000 more material in my master.Now the performance may degrade and .net/Java application has to wait for the data to come into its environment and often it will get timeout.So how to deal with these kind of situations or What is the Error Handing Process in these types of scenario as my data is going to increase day by day.
Thanks,
Gaurav

Hi ,
im not saying u will get only 1000 Records initially .
im saying tht .
u can restirct the intial display no .of records in portal usually portal takes lot of time to fecth data from R/3 . so thats so first when customer hits on submit it will display 1000 records . but user wont see all the records right then u can provide one serch option to get all the records thru tht option okay so it will go to back end it will get all the records from backend .
similar problem we face in our project so we did the same at that time k .
try to resrtict no of records for initial to fecth data and to overcome timeout error .
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