All This Talk of ProTools Editing Being Better Than Logic . . . Really?

Question

OK so I admit, I've never used Pro Tools. But lately there seems to be this chatter about how Pro Tools audio editing capabilities are so superior to Logics. Are they? What am I missing? Logic seems to do everything with audio that there is to do. OK I would appreciate a slip tool now or then to slide audio around within a region. But you can get around that using anchors in the audio window or sample editor. And sure there's no sample accurate edit in the arrange window. But who cares. That's what the sample editor is for. I guess I just wonder how green the grass really is on the other side. Can anyone shed some light on this for me.

Answer 1

there seems to be this chatter about how Pro Tools
audio editing capabilities are so superior to Logics.
Are they? What am I missing? Logic seems to do
everything with audio that there is to do.
I was a part of some of those threads. I am new to Logic (5 months or so now). I've used ProTools for years and years (and still do for some things).
My posts have consistantly indicated that I love Logic. I now prefer it over any DAW. And for writing it's killer.
But my complaint with Logic has been to do with editing. I am always very quick to add to those complaints that my editing "issues" may just come down to my inexperience - or my not doing things the right way within Logic.
But thus far I've read the manual on editing many times, I've watched relevent chapters of the M Sitter video series many times. I've watched the PRO ASK advanced editing video a number of times. I've scoured this forum. And spent a week in a Toronto studio on a project with a producer who is a long- time Logic user, and watched him like a hawk. So if I am missing some Logic audio editing truths - I've yet to know where to look for them or see them in use.
Below are the specifics you asked for - at least in my opinion. Again .. I hasten to add that I would take Logic over any other DAW. It's a fantastic program and way more advanced than I am.
Your question of specifics:
In general it's just faster and easier to edit in ProTools for these reasons/features:
1. My experience with PT vs inexperience with Logic (I mention that first as it's gotta be a major factor with everything that follows).
2. Protools' way of handling regions that overlap is simple. It's less versatile than Logic, but it's simple and fast. Once you decide on an edit and cross fade for two regions, it doesn't change visually or sonically regardless of what regions are selected afterward. Unless you change it, that is. This is confusing to describe. Regions don't go changing around when you back up through selelctions to check things. If this makes no sense to Logic users - it does to PT users I can guarantee ... In short, when editing a track I would like to be in overlap and crossfade modes together.
3. The "smart tool". I miss it. MISS it. It allows you to Select, Fade in or Out, Trim regions, Move, crossfade, and control the crossfade all with one tool depending on where it is over region.
4. Quick changes to Slip, Shuffle, Grid and Spot modes with one key.
5. 4 or 5 (it's not open just now so I forget) quick user definable Zoom presets with one click.
6. Beat Detective is pretty cool if editing things played by musicians ... who ... well ... have an alternative sense of timing shall we say.
Smaller Issues:
6. SPL is more easily handled in PT for editing audio. You can click anywhere to move it. Not a big deal for most things but very big deal when editing. Also ... one can easily change the behavior of the SPL when stopping playback. Should it return to where you started playback after checking multiple edits? (Very handly when zoomed in) Or should it stay where it stops? You decide. It's quickly changed back and forth in PT.
7. Small issue ... Cutting is one click faster.
8. Region lists are very like an EDL - handy and can be hidden very easily too (not a big deal ... I like Logic way of handling this too).
In short, PT is way less versititle than Logic. But I find if I have to extensive audio editing in a hurry I will invariably dump the file in to PT.
In ase anyone thinks I am bashing any DAW here I will say it again. Read point #1 above. And . .... I LOVE Logic. I work almost exclusively in it now. If there editing tricks in Logic that I've yet to learn then I cannot wait. So far it's my only complaint ... editing audio.
My two cents.
Dee