Allocated space without DBA_DATA_FILES

Hello good folks,
I'm building a process that will check the space of the tablespaces and send feedback. So my question is this : how can I have the allocated space of a tablespace without using dba_data_files?
My user account doesn't have access to dba_data_files and will not have select permission granted any time soon.
So how can I circumvent this restriction?
Thanks everyone,
Frank

Helio : I don't see how creating a table would help my situation. I'm not planning on having access to that view.
Paul : I don't want to enter in too many details, but basically, the DBA departments wants us to monitor the tablespace usage without giving us the tools to do it so they can bash my department for blowing quotas. They give us reports indicating the allocated space, which is how I know my information is higher than supposed.
I want to create a process that will check daily and give us feedback so we can act on it if need be.
I could always just check the Free space, but I would prefer having a complete solution that includes the allocated space.
Asking to the DBA for rights on the views is always possible, but I would rather do without if it's possible.
Eduardo : I'm beginning to think that this may well be the final answer to this question, meaning there is no solution without asking for help. Damn things can be complicated for no just reason sometimes.

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>> Since I am not deep into the DB stuff (yet )
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