Allow users to save form data

I am throughly confused about what I need, so I'm sorry, I'm sure this thread is a duplicate of several that are out there, but most of it seems to talk over my head.
I have a VERY old version of Adobe Acrobat (version 5.0, yes gasp in horror). I have the VERY old version of Acrobat Distiller (version 5.0). I have a form that was created in these versions of Acrobat. It works perfectly, even in the new version of Reader (v9), excpet that the form data can't be saved, not a shocker.
What software do I need to purchase to get my old form to allow people to save the form data, WITHOUT them having to download any extensions for their Reader?
I hope that makes sense.

Hi,
LiveCycle Reader Extensions ES is part of Adobe's server product and can be very expensive. In addition to the cost of the sever component, you need to pay a fee to Adobe to apply the reader extensions to each form. It is intended for government agencies and large organisations.
The ability to reader enable a form from within Acrobat is intended for ad-hoc forms that won't be going out to a lot of people.
When you design a form in LC Designer, you can specify the target version of Acrobat/Reader (in the File/Form Properties/Defaults). This allows you to check that all of the functionality that you build into the form, will work for your users.
When you reader enable the form it will still work with the target version that you have set in LC Designer.
When you reader enable with the full LC Reader Extension ES server product, you are basically turning ON features for users with Reader.
However when you reader enable using Acrobat, you are turning ON features like allowing users to save data. But at the same time Adobe are turning OFF some features like data connections.
It really depends on how many data processes you want with the form. If it is small then stick with Acrobat. If you are a large organisation looking to improve data collection and processing then you should look at LC Reader Extensions ES.
Hope that helps,
Niall

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Simon,
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> and they say that they believe that the form is saved in a "different" format.
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> I'm using Acrobat 9 Pro, but the function is only active in the template, not the form created by the template.
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Geo,
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