ALOT of problems w/ my NEO2-FIS2R mobo!!

Hopefully someone can help me on this board cuz I've ran out of ideas.
Just bought alot of new parts for my new system I'm building.
But, when I was done and ready to boot the system up I just keep getting these annoying bluescreens (WinXP) and every now and then I can boot into Win98 Failsafe (dualboot) and a few rare times I've been able to boot into Win98 w/out failsafe.
The few times I managed to go into Win98 it crashed after a few minutes with all kinds of different errors (like Internal Stackpile problem etc)
Also, the few times I've managed to get to Win98 it can't find my GF4 card, it says it doesn't excists... and it can't install some of the software from the install CD of the motherboard.
The hardware in my new system:
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Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz 800MHz FSB -HT
MSI NEO2-FIS2R motherboard
2x 256MB PC400 DDRAM MAJOR/3RD PC3200
MSI GeForce4 TI4800SE-VTD8X 128MB
2x120GB 7200RPM HDD's
First someone told me that the motherboard doesn't support the MSI GeForce4 TI4800SE-VTD8X 128MB cuase it's not 1.5V compatible, but I've looked around this board and I've seen alot of configurations with the exact same gfx card so I more or less ruled that out (UNLESS, I have to jumper the gfx card somehow, if so, please explain HOW)
The 2:nd thing I'm concerned about is that my RAM isn't compatible with the board, could this be the case?
When I try to boot up WinXP I keep getting a bluescreen saying some hardware failure occured.
But the LED's on the D-Bracket says everything is working fine (4 green led's).
If anyone has any solution or advice of things I can try I'm greatful. I'm stuck and I'm out of ideas.
I tried stuff like only running 1 memory stick (tried em both alone and on different DIM slots)
I pulled our everything but the essentials, still same error(s).
Please, anyone, come with a solution, getting extreamly frustraded.
/D

Thanks for the fast reply.
No, did not reinstall windows, it's recycled from my old computer.
Done it like that on all systems I ever buildt and never had any problems.
The OS fails to launch in Failsafe aswell, and then I'm not using anything but the needed drivers, so that should work.
Going to try out the memtest86 asap.
THe few times I got into Win98 I tried a system diagnostictool and I actually got it to run through every test once and it didn't find any problems with the RAM, HDD's or anything.. still, 60sec after the test Windows crashed and a blacktext came up in the corener of the screen saying it had an Internal Stackpile failure and asked me to change the stack settings in config.sys.
But since I don't run WIn98 normally (just a backup OS on one of the HDD's) I don't really want/care of having it fixed, I want to get WinXP up and running.
So, no need to change any jumpers on my card then? Good (read something about that on one of the Warning papers that came with the board)
Ohhh, and when trying to load WinXP in failsafe I can see that the last thing it loads before it gives me a Bluescreen is GIVEIO.SYS, hopefully that might be of some assistance.
/D

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865PE Neo2 FIS2R

Hello all. I've searched the forums and read alot of posts about my problem, but seem to be missing the information I am looking for. Let me tell you what is going on. I have the MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mobo ver 1, P4 3.0 800FSB, 1 gig corsair twinx XMS 3200 CL2. My problem is when I try to use this RAM my system will not start. No Post, nothing and the D-bracket shows me memory error code. If I use a strip of crucial from my other PC everything works fine (the crucial is 333mhz at 512mb, cl3). I checked out the RAM compatability report on the MSI site and it was pretty confusing to me. I guess my question is, is my RAM compatible or is there a work around to using the XMS modules?
Other components are as follows:
ATI Radeon 9800XT (256)
48xCD-RW
80gig WD drive (PATA)
431w Enermax PSU
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Dink,
great to see someone who has the same config as I have.
My System:
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (Bios 1.8)
CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200C2PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT
My system is running very stable with Ram-Settings at 2-3-3-6-8 in Turbo/Sergeant. Pls set your timings to these values. This should work.
Now a question to you. I have problems with the ATI 9800XT cards.
1) Do you also see stuttering or lags when running 3DMark2001SE? With ATI 9800XT Reference Cards I experience these lags also in the overlay mode and in Games when turning very fast (egoshooters). You can see what I mean when you install this little tool which changes the background of your WinXP desktop to a psychedelic wormhole: http://www.geisswerks.com/drempels/index.html
After you start this funny tool. Watch out for your desktop. If it isn't runnin 100% smooth you have the same problems as I have. The only 9800XT card which isn't causing this stuttering is the ASUS 9800XT. Could you pls. tell me if you also see these lags? You can increase the stuttering by copying some files from Dir1 to Dir2.
These lags have no impact of benchmark results!
2) Pls could you tell me what's the IRQ of your card? 16? Is it shared with the USB Controller?
3) Who is the manufacturer of your card? Ati itself or Hercules, HIS or Saphire??
If you cannot see this stuttering I would bet you have a ASUS.
Greets Digit
from Germany

Thermalright XP-120 and NEO2-FIS2R

Anyone using the Thermalright XP-120 heatsink with the NEO2-FIS2r mobo?

my friend does and he finds it good

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R Problems

I purchased a brand new MSI 865PE Neo2-FISR along with a P4 2.4C(OEM), a Thermaltake Spark 5c cooler and a Corsair XMS Twinpack(TWINX512-3200C2PT) of DDR400 memory.
The install went fine, the system booted and ran very well right out of the box. I installed the Live Update program from MSI and it updated itself. I then used that utility to generate a BIOS flash/recovery disk to update the bios from 1.10 to 1.30. The update worked fine and I rebooted the machine into Windows XP with no problems.
I then decided to do some tweaking in the new 1.3 BIOS. After several unsuccessful memory/Dynamic Overclocking settings the system refused to boot. I tried the Clear CMOS jumper to reset the defaults but it still would not boot. I checked the D-Bracket, 3 red 1 green(lower right) which indicates that the video card is not initializing. I attempted reseating the video card (a PNY Geforce4 TI4200) with no luck, I then replaced that card with a GeForce4 MX440 SE with no luck. I tried four other video cards, 2 AGP and 2 PCI, with no success.
At this point I pulled the board out of the system and let it sit with the battery out of the board hoping that the BIOS would reset to default values. I reinstalled the board with all the hardware and again the same D-Bracket error with no video generated. I tried different arrangements of memory using the new Corsairs and various other DDR333 & DDR266 again no luck.
What is going on with this thing? How could an errant timing change completely lock out the VGA card? And why can I not clear the settings to allow the card to initialize?
This thing is getting RMA'd soon if I can't find an answer.
Anyone have any ideas or similiar troubles? X(

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Originally posted by gary172
Another thing I don\'t understand about all the isses with BIOS 1.3, performance, RAM and timings etc, is - How can the 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R pretty much come out at the top of the heap in Tom\'s Hardware Test:
\"The board therefore achieves the best performance in the whole test field.\"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030707/i875p-46.html
with MAT and DOT enabled, without any apparent negative reports of stability.
Is it that he used a Beta Bios: V1.3B3 (06/12/2003)
Or was his MSI board a \'pre-press release\' mobo similar to the ASUS board and the production versions we are buying are missing certain components?
http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-06.html
Or did he have \'hand picked\' memory from Corsair \"2 x 256 MB, Corsair PC3200 TwinX\" and didn\'t report it?
There are a lot of reviews lately that have it as one of the fastest MB's around at the moment, here are a handful I found:
http://www.mbreview.com/neo2pe-10.php
http://www.thejemreport.com/reviews/865peneo2.htm
http://www.hardwarezone.com/article...&aid=795&page=1
http://www.hexus.net/review.php?review=564&page=1
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview....eid=1402&page=1
http://www.techview.nl/reviews/2959

865PE Neo2 -FIS2R POST problem

I'm having a problem with my newly built system and hoped that someone here might be able to help.
I am using the 865PE Neo2 -FIS2R motherboard with a 3.0Ghz P4 800Mhz FSB and a single 512MB Value Select Corsair RAM (DDR 3200, 200/400Mhz). The installed Video Card is a Leadtek Geforce3 Ti. There are no other expansion cards installed. There is no HDD.
When I power on my PC, I hear 2 short beeps, a pause, and then 8 short beeps. I'm also not getting any video. I looked up the beep codes on the AMI Bios web page. 2 beeps for video card issues and 8 beeps for memory issues.
I think the d-bracket is a great touch, so I check out its LED indicators. It shows the pattern denoting a memory issue. The only other RAM module I have laying around is a single generic PC 2100 266Mhz module. So, I pop it in. When I power on the system I get the same beep codes and LED configuration on the d-bracket.
Are the MSI Neo2 boards extremley picky about RAM? Should I be using two modules as per the RAM population table in the manual? Is there a recommended brand/model of RAM? Is there anything else I should be looking at as the cause?
I plan on picking up some different RAM modules over my lunch break today but before I did I wanted to check with those who know before I blow money on them.
Thanks for any help/advince.

KevinS,
Sad to say but there are some Corsair RAMs are known for instability problems with MSI mobos, especially the Low Latency RAM with the NEOs and NEO2s. That's why MSI has to test the RAMs to make sure that there is a list of confirmed and compatible RAMs for the mobo.
Pheng,
This AVATAR is better than the last one, at least it's not the 3X rated type... but I'll put an NC-16 PG for it hehehe... . Another thing is that I did not say that I hate the previous AVATAR at all... lol... Just feel that it is unsuitable for a tech forum where people from all over the world in all age and genders will be visting and viewing the threads. I hope you understand the suitation here .

865PE Neo2-FIS2R and Geil memory problem

With 512MB (2x256) of Corsair XMS 3700, the system is perfectly stable (runs 24/7 crunching for UD, also have done Prime95 torture test).
With 1-GB (2x512) of Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum, the system is very unstable. It usually won't even boot fully into Windows without a BSOD (which vary) or if it does get into Windows it crashed soon thereafter.
If I put the Corsair memory back in (like I have them right now, to be able to use the system to post this message), the system is back to 100% stable, so it seems to be entirely a memory-related problem.
MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728)
Intel P4 2.4C 800FSB (HT enabled) @ 3.19-GHz
AVC Sunflower 2 HSF
420-W PS
Windows XP Pro SP1a
BIOS settings:
Dynamic OC Disabled
Performance mode Slow
DRAM Freq 266
CPU Bus 266
DDR Clock 354
AGP/PCI 67/34
CPU vCore 1.6000
DDR volts 2.70
AGP volts 1.50
SPD Disabled
3-4-4-8, 4 burst
Have run MemTest standard test on the Geil modules individually and as a pair, and have tried different slots. Testing thus far shows no errors when each module is installed separately, but when used in a pair there are sometimes errors shown.
Have tried the modules in slots 1,3 and slots 2,4 with no difference.
Have tried setting DDR voltage from 2.70 up to 2.85v for the Geil (approved up to 2.9v) with no apparent change in stability.
Have tried changing Spread Spectrum setting between enabled and disabled. Disabled seems to be better, but problem remains.
Have tried using SPD disabled with settings listed above, and SPD enabled (which sets timings at 2.5-4-4-8,8).
Edit: I'd asked for advice, but then realized that the very limited timeframe in which I could return the Geil would expire if I waited beyond business hours today. So I've RMA'd the Geil and have ordered a 1-GB Corsair TwinX XMS 3700 pack instead.

I've had similar problems to you but with Corsair TwinX LL's and if you read back a month in this forum you will see others have also with various memories on the 865 FISR.
The fix I found was Kingston memory but others have had problems with Kingston. There was a thread running a week or two ago attempting to document successful memory mobo combinations.
Bottom line, stick with what works on your mobo until MSI fix the incompatability/instability issues.

865PE NEO2 FIS2R memory problem

I have this 865PE NEO2 FIS2R with a 3ghz northwood (512K cache, 800 fsb).
initially I bought a 1GB Geil PC3500 DDR dual channel kit. installed those into slot 1 and 3, installed windows...during install I would get blue screens. recently I bought a new PC-3700 DDR dual channel kit (industry standard generic stuff). I bought those cause the place I got it from claimed it works on the i875 NEO FIS2R. I figured if it works on the 875P, it should work on the 865PE. with the new memory I get blue screens a tad more often.
I tried both geil sticks again this time as single channel in slots 1 and 2 (Ch. A). I still got blue screens. I did the same with the new PC-3700 RAM, blue screens with that too.
I took those sticks out, and tried 1 Geil PC-3500 stick in slot 1, no blue screens.
Whats the deal here? shouldn't dual channel memory work as dual channel in a dual channel board? WHy can't I use 2 sticks of the same RAM in this board!
is it just incompatiable with geil dual channel? If so what about the PC-3700 RAM I tried as dual. I am thinking about trying a set of OCZ dual channel RAM, but I feel I already got $400 worth of RAM I can't use, I don't really want to waste another $200 if this is just a crappy board.
I'm thinking of just getting the new Asus with the SiS 655TX chipset, supposed to be faster anyway. 2 sticks of RAM would most likely work in that board.
I really don't want to spend anymore money on this though...I spent enough.
the specs:
P4 3ghz northwood
865PE NEO2 FIS2R (with updated 2.3 bios)
Chieftech 650 watt Power supply 36A, 36A, & 32A
BFG geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (also tried an old geforce 2 mx 32MB)
memory tried: 1GB geil PC-3500 dual channel kit & 1GB generic dual channel kit
3com Network interface card
WD 120GB SE hard drive
Plextor 8X DVD-RW drive
Lite on 16X DVDROM drive

This problem is not yet solved....
I tried increasing the ram voltage to 2.8v, it ran fine for about 3 days...then boom..restart
I am seeing other people are having the same problem with these 865/875 boards.
after raising the ram voltage didn't work I tried unplugging all of my extra hard drives 1 by 1 with the memory set to 2.7v.
I am at the point where I have only my boot drive connected with the two DVD drives.
But I am still thinking its my power supply...that power supply caculator page says I need a 519 watt PS?? I have a true550 which is only 530 watt max.
If I do need to add 20% to the power calculated, I would need a 622 watt PS???
I am running speedfan now....how low is the voltages ok to drop to?
the +12 dropped to 11.19, max is 11.80
the rest of the voltages are staying more or less constant .
Oh yea, on occasion the nb fan stops, I get a warning in corecenter saying 0 RPMs.
Also I can't set the fans to high speed, 6000RPM for the nb, and 5000RPM for the CPU.
If I set corecenter to user, and move the slide up to 8, the max is only 3375RPM for the CPU and 3750RPM for the NB fan.
Also every once in awhile the power LED on my case will go out while the system is running.
But thats been doing that for awhile now!
I'm thinking I will connect up my other hard drives again and run this speed fan program again.
update:
I reconnected my drives, ran speed fan, noticed it stops responding after 10 min...I get an error saying smbus cannot be scanned...or something like that.
Also I've got errors when downloading saying I have no ports available. it sounds like the bus is shutting down??
This is not the only MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R I have ran into problems with
it looks like I will be getting a new board next week....either an Asus or Abit.

HELP! Can't get WINXP or WIN ME installed on Neo2-FIS2R

Dear all,
Last weekend I've been trying too many hours to get WINXP PRO (Dutch version) installed on my new Mobo. I just can’t get it installed.
Installation from CD is starting however after loading some drivers (and offering F6 to install extra scsi/raid drivers, F2 for recovery) screen goes black and in far upper left corner blinking cursor appears.
Nothing happens anymore.
Tried the same with WIN ME (also dutch version). This one reboots just before I’ve to enter serial number (= screen were progress indicator is moving from 0-100%)
Does anybody please advise/help. If you need more info, please ask. Your help will highly been appreciated!
My system specs:
865PE Neo2-FIS2R
BIOS V1.2 (may 28th 2003)
Intel 3GHz, 800 FSB, HT
2x 512 MB, 400 MHz, cl-3, PC3200U (Elixir)
Hercules (ATI) 64 MB 8500 DV All in wonder
1x Maxtor 60 GB UATA 133
2x Maxtor 160 GB SATA
Samsunng combo CDRW/DVD-ROM

Please do not upgrade the Bios.. that is not the problem.
Set the Bios to "Load Bios default settings" and insure all your
devices, hard drive, cd rom and 3 1/2 drive all are recognized first
then proceed to doing your install
865PE Neo2-FIS2R [GbE LAN, IEEE 1394, Serial ATA(SB),
Ultra/Serial ATA RAID (Promise) Bios 1.3
Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHZ Retail
Crucial 256MB DDR PC3200 (1 Channel A & 1 Channel B)
ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON™ 7500 64MB
Maxotor 120 gig S-ATA
MSI CD-R/RW 52-M
Antec Sonata Silent 380 watt PSU
Windows XP with current SP and updates
Hyperthreading Technology enabled
USR 56K internal modem
Logitech Cordless Access Duo keyboard & mouse

865PE Neo2-FIS2R, memory question!

Hi!
I´m thinking of buying memory for the 865PE Neo2-FIS2R mother board and have a few doubts that are on my mind.
1. If I want to use DualMode memory, should I use 256+256 or 512+512.
Lets assume that I buy 2x 256MB and uses them as DualMode.
Can I later put another 2 x 256MB into the computer and use them all as DualMode, (256+256+256+256) or is only possible to use 2 of each size.
Maybee I should buy 1x of 512MB and use it as SingeMode and later complement with another 512 and use them as DualMode.
hmmmmm.......any point of views?
The memory I´m talking about is:
Corsair CMX256A-3500C2 256Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
Corsair CMX512-3500C2 512Mb DDR PC3500 CAS2 434MHz
I assume that they are the same as MSI has in its
"DDR400 Memory Modules Qualified Vender List " and should work just fine with the motherboard.
Regards
WiGGoW

I would not go with that brand of ram. There are alot of issues being talked about involving that ram in this forum. I recommend Kingston and so does MSI. Keep in mind to obtain Ultr-Turbo in Bios you need to buy a latency of 2 or you will get an error message and your bios will reset to slow.

Any issues with Koolance CPU-200G on 865PE NEO2 FIS2R?

I'm thinking about getting a Koolance Exos and using the CPU-200G Block on my 865PE NEO2 FIS2R board. Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with this set up.
My problem is that I just upgraded from a 3 year old Presario that was actually very quiet (what did it have to cool? heh). And now my case has 5 80 MM fans running, a CNPS7000a-AlCu, plus PSU fans, GPU fan, NB fan... fans, fans, fans!!!! And the thing is so freaking loud.
Water-cooling looks like a good solution, but I don't know if
A) the block will fit on the board or
B) would I just be better off removing a couple fans.
Currently, everything is quite cool, I just want to kill the noise!
Thanks for any input or testimonials.

If you don't have any small kids or pets that might get in there, I would suggest removing ALL fan grills. Any time you make air change direction you increase noise. Furthermore with the case of fan grills you also increase air turbulence that disturbs the flow of air lowering cooling efficiency.
Ever listen to how quiet that 80mm fan is by itself when you put it to your ear? Why doesn't it sound like that in the case. The answer air that passes the grills and sharp edges of the computer case and inside makes noise as it hits the edges and surfaces. Eliminating as many of them as you can can aid in turbulence and temperature drop!
Not to mention the competition audio stuff in my thunderbird works great as insulation. Dynamat can kill most any sound, noise or vibration!
Lastly, bigger fans that spin lower RPM's are a key to eliminating sound. Same concept as the CNPS. A good flowing 2500RPM Sunon 80mm fan on your videocard would be just as effective and much quieter than the stock 5000+ RPM fan! You can reduce noise with less heat. I REALLY like the Zalman Heatpipe VGA cooler, but without a case with KILLER airflow, overclocking your card with one can be pretty unpredictable from machine to machine.

NEO2-FIS2R ATI 9800 AIW Pro TV Tuner causes freezes/blue screens. Help!

I recently upgraded my system from P4 2.4Ghz to P4 3.4Ghz Northwood and went from All in Wonder Radeon to 9800 AIW Pro. Only other change worth mentioning is I created a 0+1 RAID using 4 hard drives which were previously configured differently. I watch a lot of TV while I work on the computer. I do a lot of disk writes and data management which ultimately creates a lot of transfering of data between disks. Never was a problem in the old config. BTW, I also use an external HD conntected through USB for data transfers as well.
Immediately, my system went from stable to unstable. I first noticed that the destop redraw on bootup was slower. Then I noticed that the TV had a delayed response on changing channels and changing volume. Switching to another window causes a slow redraw and sometimes causes a jerk in the TV display like a hickup. Other symptoms include blue screens but no driver is referenced. The blue screen otherwise is a normal STOP screen except for the bottom quarter of the monitor which looks like video garble. Sometimes it just reboots. Sometimes, it freezes. I noticed that doing disk transfers while watching TV usually speeds up the behavior. Comparatively, my use of the TV in the old config was transparent regarless of how much I taxed the system.
Anyway, in view of the unexpected behavior, I decided to backup and reinstall the OS from scratch using a vanilla install method. Everything was detected properly, OS installed fine. Installed ATI's latest Catalyst drivers. I turn on the TV and within about 15 minutes of use, the erratic behavior begins. I figured it was a bad card so I exchanged it out. Same thing with the new card. ATI is shrugging their shoulders and pointing at MSI.
I ran hardware tests, updated the MB BIOS to latest available. Tested all four hard drives/RAM. I can't find any hardware issues. I'm very conservative with my BIOS settings so aside from the default values, I have only changed the settings required to allow for a 0+1 RAID config on the Promise controller.
I put my old ATI Radeon back in and ran the TV for hours and had no problems at all. I also swapped my old 2.4 back in with the 9800 AIW Pro and the problem is recreated so that is what has me ruling out the processor.
Here's what the box looks like inside.
Antec 480 True Blue
MSI NEO2-FIS2R (w/latest BIOS)
1GB Corsair VS512MB400 x 2
4 Maxtor 160GB hard drives, 8MB Cache, 2ea SATA, 2ea PATA
Intel 3.4Ghz Northwood CPU, 512KB, 800FSB w/Zalman 7700CU HS/F
ATI 9800 AIW Pro 128MB DDR
Front/Rear 120mm Case Fans
Optical drive, floppy drive, modem card, sound card.
NOTE: All USB ports are being used by devices with their own power supply except for a web camera. All fans are using power from PSU. No fans use MB power.
I also checked to insure that the AGP card was seated correctly and verified that it was. So, I'm pretty bummed out that I just dropped circa $500 on improving my system but I can't even get it work as well as it used to.
I think I have found the problem but short of getting rid of the 9800 AIW Pro, I am hoping that someone else has had this problem and can help me out. Your ideas would be greatly appreciated!!!

Good News!!
While the DDR voltage was set to 2.7, I recreated the conditions in which the failures tended to occur. Within minutes, it was obvious that something had changed as I had never gone that far without getting kicked out, freezing up, or blue screening. Since this is looking more and more like a power issue, I decided to leave all of my external USB connections disconnected except for the external hard drive because I normally transfer data back and forth frequently from it.
When I saw that the system was holding up well, I connected the rest of the USB connections. Everything ran OK for a few minutes but then the sound from the TV dropped out while the picture continued to function. Although, this marked another failure, it was a marked improvement over what had been happening previously.
NovJoe suggested tweaking the voltage to 2.7 ~ 2.8 so I upped the voltage to 2.8 and setup the same environment and the machine has run that way for about 3 hours. That one increment seems to have made a difference.
Questions which come to mind.
1. If this is a power issue, is it the motherboard's inability to supply the correct voltage to the motherboard components or is it a PSU issue which isn't providing the motherboard enough juice to do its job or a combination of both?
2. If this issue can be corrected through tweaking voltages, how do you know how far to go before damaging system components?
One of the original symptoms with the TV is still apparent. Upon changing channels, there is a second delay before the sound and picture synchronize. Changing foreground windows also causes a "hickup" in the TV's sound/video. I'm more concerned with what this behavior may mean from a system performance standpoint rather than the annoyance since this is a 9800 AIW Pro and it should be snappy instead of sluggish.
Up the AGP voltage? On that subject, the people here seem to have a lot of background with tweaking the BIOS. I'd appreciate any other ideas in tweaking this system as well.
Ultimately, I have to answer the question of whether I need to get a bigger PSU or can I safely correct my system performance by using BIOS tweaks?
Thanks again for all your help.

Does the Neo4-F suffer the same temp problems as the Neo2 Platinums?

Hey there,
I'm about to change my Neo2's below and in the process put these five Opteron 146's in "something'.
(The Asus board is a test bed. I really liked my old A7N8X Dx's and bought it cheap enough used)
Can someone here answer if the Neo4-F's suffer the temp reading problems as my Neo2 Platinums do?
Nothing like rebooting to "get' a lower temp. Or watch it rise 1-2deg a day in a stable ambient.
I'd really like to not end up with new BIOS's being released attempting to cure the "supposed" temps reported.
They run 24/7 for Grid.org's Cancer Research and misleading or incorrectly reported temps worry me at times.
Thanks,
Rick

Hi......
Can´t speak for the Neo4-F MoBo, just some general comments, that may or may not help you.
What temp problems did you have with your Neo2 MoBo ?
Getting a 100% accurate cpu temp reading seems to be difficult task to achieve for many Vendors and softwaremakers.
Differant vendors may have differant ways to monitor the integreated cpu temp sensor, which does not necessarily mean that the actual cpu temp is differant between differant MoBo´s.
Meaning a low cpu temp report may not be true and vice versa, so knowing the true cpu temp is not that easy, but I believe that any system that runs stable 24/7 is happy, no matter what cpu temp that is reported ( within reasonable values)
There are usually some "safe cpu temp" biossettings that could be changed, if the reported cpu temp is too high, to avoid shut downs / boot problems.
Some basic factors to consider are ;
- ambient room temperature
- what cpu cooler / thermal grease is used
- case / system ventilation and airflow
- what biosversion used
- surrounding system componenets, like VGA, PSU etc.
- stock or OC cpu-speed and cpu voltage
The above factors are the things you can affect yourself, no matter what MoBo.
For the moment I´m running a K8N Neo2 / Winchester with some 28c idle and 45c load.
I´m getting an opteron 146 to the weekend and it will be interesting to see what cpu temp I will get.
It is my understanding that the opterons runs a bit hotter compared to winchester / Venice cores.

Will A MS6728-Neo2 FIS2R support a 3.4 CPU? Will I feel the difference outside of my Wallet :)

Hey Guys, I'm thinking of upgrading. Will my MSI 6728 - 865PE Neo2 FIS2R support a 3.4 Cpu i.e. 3.4EE or 3.4 Northwood.

hmmm, i "upgraded" from a 2.8c to a 3.2(c) 800FSB. since you want 3.4GHz i dont know what the difference is there, even though i have mine oc'ed 24/7 to 3.6GHz.
well, i notice almost no difference i games. and since thats everything i do with my machine, besides some surfing the internet or some work for uni it wasnt worth the extra cash.
but it feels good to have it anyway. every benchmark gives you higher scores and overclocking has become a little easier since i dont have to crank up the FSB that much compared to my old 2.8c aka, its more stable @ higher speeds - and i can use some PC3200 memory without having to fear that it will hold me back.
so, its really up to you. when you game alot you wont find any improvements and you should save your money. but if its benchmark scores what you're after, or you want some safe overclocks in the 3.6 - 3.8GHz region, then 3.x P4s are the way to go.
another advantage even if its little is, that you can use LL memory, because you dont need PC3700 or faster stuff.

Help! XP install problems with K8T Neo-FIS2R

The other day I put together a new system for a friend. I got the system to POST properly, the diagnostic lights on the D bracket are fine, and I can edit the BIOS, and the BIOS sees all the drives properly.
However, installing XP Pro has been impossible. I set the system to boot first to the CD, then to the hard drive (from the BIOS). After booting to the CD, I never see the message I am used to seeing ("Press any key to boot from CD...) when booting from the XP Pro install disk. The system thinks about things for a long time with a blank screen, then later it finally begins to do the install. Things appear normal at this point as in any other time I have installed XP Pro. I reformat the hard drive to start clean and then the XP install files are copied over. I get the standard message that the system will reboot and this is where things get flaky. The system reboots, but I never get the message once again on whether or not to boot from the CD. So after a while the system tries to install XP once again (it would repeat this process forever....trust me). I've popped the CD out right after the system reboots so it will try to go to the hard drive. I just get some kind of boot failure message and to insert the bootable media or whatever. I've even gone into the BIOS right after the reboot to switch the BIOS loading to try and load the hard drive first. This still doesn't give me the desired results.
This is by far the weirdest thing I've ever experienced when doing an install. I've installed XP Pro on at least 15-20 desktops/laptops of different configs and never ran into this before.
The BIOS settings are stock. I didn't see anything in there that was really needed tweaking or that hadn't "set itself". I haven't messed with the SATA or RAID stuff since it's not really necessary in this situation.
Here are the system specs:
--Antec 430 True Power PSU
--K8T Neo-FIS2R mobo
--AMD 3000+ 64 bit CPU
--40GB Maxtor HD (master on IDE1)
--Lite-On DVD-ROM drive (slave on IDE1)
--80GB Western Digital (8MB buffer) (master on IDE2)
--Sony DRU510A DVD-RW (slave on IDE2)
--(2) Kingmax 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 Model# MPXC22D-38
--ATI 9800 Pro
--3.5 Floppy
All the components except the mobo, CPU, and memory are from another AMD system that was running fine. No problems with any of the HD's or the optical drives. All new components were purchased from newegg.
I thought that maybe I had a problem with the jumpering of the drives so I messed with those in about every possible combination. I took IDE2 completely out of the system and just tried to get it running with the 40GB Maxtor and the Lite-On drive. I tried about every master/slave/cable select combination but nothing was working. In certain combinations the BIOS recognized everything as I intended. I've pulled everything off that doesn't need to be connected. Keyboard, monitor, and internal components are the only things connected.
I don't consider myself to be a guru at this business, but I can get through most things with enough trial and error. This really has me stumped.
Any help is certainly appreciated.
Thanks,
Heath

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Originally posted by chasmon
Hi all,
I have just setup up a brand new system but am having probelms getting it working. I want to install XP on a single Maxtor 160Gb drive.
I have my HD on Promise Ser1 and all SATA stuff in BIOS enabled. When I get to the screen I press F6 and then when promted I insert the floppy with the promise drivers on. I then get this message:
"File txtsetup.oem caused an unexpected error (4096) at line 1742 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c"
I can't get past this screen I have tried:
1.Drivers from the CD supplied.
2.Drivers from the MSI website.
Please help me this lot cost lots of hard earned I'm pretty gutted at the moment.
System:
Antec 380W PSU and Sonata Case
LG DVDROM 8163B
NEC DVDR/RW 2500B
Panasonic Floppy
Neo FIS2R mobo
Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9 160Gb SATA150
Benq RF K/B & Mouse
Download the drivers from MSI again, and when you copy the contents of the XP folder to floppy ADD the file txtsetup.oem from the directory above that folder. Worked for me..!
Ian

Overheating problems with 865PE Neo2-S ( 6728 )

I have the same problem with my MB. When the CPU is idle it's temperature is 42 degrees C, but when it get's stressed up it growes up to 62 degrees C. THe heatsink is well in place, and has good contact with the CPU as well as the fan which is working correctly. Once the temp grew up to even 72 degrees but when I touched the heatsink it wasn't hot as I suspected. Also quite often a situation happens when the graphics in a game are starting to get " jumpy " which is followed by sound slowing and eventually the computer stalls, so I think that the overheating is real. I would really use some assistance.

I dont think there is anything wrong with the CPU, CPU cooler or not even the casing fans.
My system config is
Pentium 4 2.8GHz C Processor
MSI NEO2 865PE Mobo 512MB DDR333 Kingston (BIOS 1.1)
450W PSU w/4 Fans cooler system
ATI Hercules Radeon 9500 Pro
Iomega 48-24-48x CDRW
WD SATA 36GB HDD
WinXP Home SP1
SB Live
Creative 4400 Inspire 4.1 Speaker
When I boot up my PC, without running any application it is already 52 degree celsius. After running General 5 it goes to 60+ , Dark Age of Camelot (Graphics intensive) it goes to 70 degree (Sometimes it just reboot while i am playing this game). What is this? My casing has 4 fans and my system temp is only 37 degree celsius. How can my CPU temperature be so high when I didnt even overclock. So what could be the cause of the problem. Problematic Corecentre or MSI 865 PE NEO2 bug or whatever. I really regret choosing this Mobo over Gigabyte PE1000. FYI, my friend who fix the same system has the same problem as me. So it is impossible that all of us didnt fixed our CPU cooler properly.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Petej61
vcv
You should be fine running stock cooling (if you dont overclock) ...your problem is more likely to be airflow in and out of the case -to prove this try running with the side pannel/Casing off
If that works then you need to provide more airflow to the case not change your cpu cooler ...a bigger/more efficient CPU cooler will just increase you case temp unless you provide more airflow to the case
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ALOT of problems w/ my NEO2-FIS2R mobo!!

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