Alternate layout question

I have finished the vertical layout of my entire issue and want to know complete the horizontal part of the issue. I went up to alternate layout and the horizontal design showed up and i edited it and saved file. I updated the article in my folio builder, but when i update my issue in adobe content viewer and update it the horizontal version does not show up when rotated. Do I need to do something else before it will show up?

When i hover over folio in builder it does say landscape and portrait. In my pages layout they are both there. but in folio builder it is only showing the portrait version? So for some reason the landscape version is not showing up in there. When i tried to add layout from the pull down i got this error.
Content generation error.
[Error: The page size aspect ratio must match the folio aspect ratio.]
The layout was created automatically in alternate layout and is 1024x768.

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I have been meaning to ask this as I have an issue coming up again and need to know how to proceed.
I have a .indd in A4
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I was able to create this but the artwork and the text falls outside of the bleed box area. So my question is how can I create an alternative layout from an A4 to a 600 x 1024 pixle portrait and at the same time get the art work to display correctly within the boundries?
A tutorial available on this?
Thx
R

Click on the page tool then hover over your text box/object center, the following statement will be shown "The object width is locked. Click to change the object width as the page changes width" and a similar statement will display on the object height. Hover on the box/object edge, the following statement will be shown "Space is flexible between object and page edge. Click to pin the object relative to page edge" (those are the 2 options responsible for displaying your objects correctly). Then from the page panel drop down menu choose create alternate layout and under options choose "Object-based" in the liquid page rule drop down menu. Remember to create the alternate layout after setting your objects for changes to take effect.

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Since alternate layouts and buttons are core InDesign features, moving this post to the InDesign Forum.
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I'm all for repurposing but here's what bugs me. Suppose I create a cover for some magazine. Next, I'd like to create an Alternate Layout to see how the design would look on a tablet device. Fair? Suppose the Cover size is standard letter size. When I launch the Create Alternate Layout command, the size menu only lists "print-based" formats like Tabloid or Legal or A4 and so on. Why, on earth, wouldn't the "Digital Publishing"-oriented size not be listed there? Like Surfacei or Pad or Android or Kindle or Xoom? I mean, what's the point of this command? I have no choice but to choose "Custom" and enter 1024 pixels by 768 pixels, for instance. Yet, when I'm done typing, InDesign CC immediately converts to some equivalent "inches", like 14 some odd inches by whatever? It is unable to retain my custom units? Why?
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"The assumption is that a document will either be used for Print or for Digital Publishing or for Web".
So, it is an either or proposition.
I probably have a fantasy or a grossly preconceived notion of what Alternate Layouts are all about.
But blame it on Terry White and the other "evangelists", in AdobeTV and Tutorial videos who position this feature with the very purpose of doing a Print to Web to Digital Publishing workflow. It a user *has* to chose, at the onset, the intent of a given document then, this feature, in my eyes, has limited value.
I confess I'm not knowledgeable in all of Adobe's new products, in particular those designed specifically to "port" content from one type of media to another, like from Print to Digital. It's entirely possible that Adobe already has a solution for this "problem", that many, in the print business face, day in day out. I gather that if InDesign was actually delivering on this functionality, maybe it would actually be cannibalizing Adobe's other products, that are specifically designed with this functionality in mind?
So, I won't say that this feature is broken but as far as allowing a true "purpose-independent" kind of workflow, we'll say that Alternate Layouts will allow "portability" within one kind of media or another, not accross various media types.
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New > Document > web.
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http://tv.adobe.com/watch/visual-design-cs6/working-with-alternate-layouts/
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Thanks Anne-Marie.
So I think that I should just delete my 800x600 Layout ?
The 800x600 layout physically looks in my pages panel to be vertical.
And then save it again ?
QUESTION: Which Layout should I keep ??
That will leave me with the Letter V layout which was what is listed in all of my saved versions.
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The fact that that the term LETTER V is used when I created a document for the WEB.
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It is just feedback.
I just hope that I do not have to go back and re-edit those last 50 pages
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I love adobe products.
I just want to understand this and move onto the next step.
I have been dreaming of a strategy to get my TOC to work the way I want it too.
Thanks Bob too.

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Doesn't seem to work – something as simple as this! Screenshots show new page moved to end of doc and also what happens when I put after page 1.
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