Alternate Sequences in Routing?

Dear Guru's,
In our production process some of the operation we will perform externally by sending it to vendor. For this we are maintaining the alternate sequences in routing. So, when ever we want send the material to vendor to perform the external operation will exchange the sequence in routing.
So, in some cases we have to do it in mass. I hope is there any t-code or any other way to do it.
Need valuable inputs please.
Thanks & Regards,
Madhu.G
Edited by: madhu333mac on Feb 13, 2012 9:14 PM

Dear Madhu,
Is it only a manual decision whether to process the operations in-house or else to be sent to the external party or is it based on
the lot size say if the order quantity is for more than 100 it's to be given to the external party means then define a lot size for
the alternative sequence for a lot size rangining from 101 to 9999999(For example).
In this case during order creation the system copies the alternative sequences automatically.
Check whether this works out for your requirement or not.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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