Alternative calculation type problem!

Hi, gurus~~~
Let me ask you something.
In pricing procedure, I want to change price in some case. so I made a alternative calculation type.
and it works.
but the problem is like this.
Alternative calculation type only works when there is standard price.
For example,
Step Cntr CTyp Fro To Reqt AltCTy AltCBV
420 0 ZS53 Price1 100 100 51 703 0
If there is price for Condition type 'ZS53', the Alt Calculation Type '703' works.
But if there is no price for condition type 'ZS53', the altCty '703' doesn't works.
I want to execute AltCTy '703' even though there is no price in condition type 'ZS53'.
Please, let me know how to do it...
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Kyung Woo.

Hi Kyung,
It seems the routine actually takes the price which is automatically determined and based on that it is redetermining the value. So please check how the routine is enabled first.
If you want to value to come even the automatic determination doesnt give any value, then make the change accordingly in teh routine.
otherwise, there is no other way by which this can happen.
Reward point if the approach helps.

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Arun biswal,
Correct Biswal. We have at varoius stages within Pricing procedure the "net value" which is calculated. Not only the alternative calculation type "2" is used if you notice carefully they are stored as subtotals at various levels.
For Ex Gross Value --> Subtotal =1 --> Calc type = 2
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Hi,
Please check the forum before you post your questions as this question was answered a number of times earlier.
Please check the below link which discusses in detail regarding the same.
[Alt Cal Type and Cond Base Value|Alternative calculation type and alterantive condition base value in pricin;
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dear expert
wats the differance betwwen alternative calculation type & condition base value in pricing.
vicky

Hi,
AltCty - Condition formula for alternative calculation type:
It is an alternative formula for the condition type that can be used instead of standard formulas.
For example, let us take the Profit Margin which can be both + / - , so here this routine will help us in generating the value which can be either + or -. Profit margin is not a condition type so it cannot be classified as +ve or -ve in the V/06.Ex.: 950 0 Profit Margin 11. So we assign 11 - Profit Margin.
AltCBV - Alternative formula for condition base value:
Formula for determining the condition basis as an alternative to the standard.
It is used as a basis to calculate value of the condition type instead of using it from the "FROM" column.
Ex.: Freight - KF00. Freight is calculated based on weight, volume etc. and not on the base price. In pricing there is no entry of weight from which the value can be referred like we do for discounts using base price. We have to get the value from the Material master. In this column we can mention the value as 12 - Gross Weight or 13 - Net Weight.
During pricing, the system will consider the value that is mentioned in this column and determine the freight based on this value.
Suppose we have Net weight: 100 kgs and Gross Weight: 150 kgs. And if we mention 13 in this column then the Freight condition KF00 will be calculated using the weight as 100 kgs.
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Requirement type, alternative calculation type and alternative base value?

Hi guys pls can any body experts in pricing
Can u pls explain requirement type, alternative calculation type and alternative base value?
Not theory Any of Ur real time experience

Requirement:
It is a routine that is written by an ABAP consultant according to the business requirement.
By defining Requirement in condition technique we can restrict the access of condition type.
To understand the concept, we will take the example of the Rebates. Rebates are to be included during the billing document processing and not in the sales document processing. As rebates are given on the delivered quantity and not on the ordered quantity (in case of cut-off period for rebates).
For rebates we use the condition types BO01 to BO05, and in the Requirement column we give the value 24 which is "Only in Billing Document".
This Requirement will ensure that these condition types will appear only during the billing document processing.
If new Requirements are to be defined we follow the procedure given below.
Go to T.Code: VOFM. - Maintain Requirements & Formulas
Click on the "Requirements" in the top menu and then click on "pricing".
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AltCty - Condition formula for alternative calculation type:
It is again a Routine that is written by ABAP Consultant.
It is an alternative formula for the condition type that can be used instead of standard formulas.
For example, let us take the Profit Margin which can be both + / - , so here this routine will help us in generating the value which can be either + or -. Profit margin is not a condition type so it cannot be classified as +ve or -ve in the V/06.
Ex.: 950 0 Profit Margin 11.
So we assign 11 - Profit Margin.
If new routines are to be defined we follow the procedure given below.
Go to T.Code: VOFM. - Maintain Requirements & Formulas
Click on the "Formulas" and then on the "Condition Values".
We have a list of routines, we can ask ABAP consultant to create new routines based on the client requests.
And we assign the application type.
AltCBV - Alternative formula for condition base value:
Formula for determining the condition basis as an alternative to the standard.
It is again a Routine that is written by ABAP Consultant.
It is used as a basis to calculate value of the condition type instead of using it from the "FROM" column.
Ex.: Freight - KF00.
Freight is calculated based on weight, volume etc. and not on the base price. In pricing there is no entry of weight from which the value can be referred like we do for discounts using base price. We have to get the value from the Material master.
In this column we can mention the value as 12 - Gross Weight or 13 - Net Weight.
During pricing, the system will consider the value that is mentioned in this column and determine the freight based on this value.
Suppose we have Net weight: 100 kgs and Gross Weight: 150 kgs. And if we mention 13 in this column then the Freight condition KF00 will be calculated using the weight as 100 kgs.
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I have a question about alternative calculation type. I have a condition type with one assigned alternative calculation type. When I drill down to get the detailed code of this alter.cal. type at the detail screen of this condition type in the pricing procedure, the ABAP codes exist. However, this alter. cal. type is not maintained in the trans. VOFM formulas-->condition base value.
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Alternative calculation type:
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Dear All,
I have a scenario where in I want the condition base value for calculating the value for a condition type to be based on
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Is it possible and if yse how do I acheive the same.
Deepak

Deepak,
Alternative Calculation Type:
Normally if you want to calculate a value you have to use a calculation type for determinating the value. This calculation type is either addition, subtraction or multiplication. Similarly SAP also has got a default calculation type in the control data of the condition type. There you have the options of either Qty based , Fixed Amount Based or Percentage based.
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Alternative condition type and base value

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gurus i am very much confused with this
alternative condition type and base value plzz clear me from this confusion
give me with realtime example and tel me in simple way
they will fully rewarded. and also a gud help to me
thanks
srinivask.

Hi
hope it is Alternative Calculation Type and Alternative Condition Base value
if so pls refer below
Alternative Calculation Type:
Normally if you want to calculate a value you have to use a calculation type for determination the value. This calculation type is either addition, subtraction or multiplication. Similarly SAP also has got a default calculation type in the control data of the condition type. There you have the options of either Qty based , Fixed Amount Based or Percentage based.
Here what happens is suppose if you define Your condition type that calculates the base price of a material on Qty based. Then the calculation will be done based on the quantity of the material. If the customer orders 10 Nos and you have maintained a unit price of 100 Rs for each material then the value determined is 1000 INR. Similarly if the discount condition type , you maintain the calculation type as %. This means if you maintain the value of 10 % in the condition record. Then this percentage is taken as the calculation type and the condition value is determined.
In some cases you have to forego the default calculation types and use the customer specific method for calculating a value. For ex if you are calculating the Freight charges for a Material . it depends on so many criteria like, the weight, volume and also the minimum amount etc etc, in those cases, you forego the default value and then use the alternative calculation type in calculating the condition value against the particular condition.

Alternative Condition Base value :
If you have to calculate any value then you have to have a base value for it. For ex if you want to calculate the discount of 10 % for a material then you have to have a base value on which this 10% is calculated. Normally you take the condition value of the base price of the material to calculate the value.
Now you don't want to take the base value and take other values as base value which are derived on some formulae. So you create a routine which will do the mathematical operations in the routine and derive you a value which is now used as the base value for calculating the condition value for a particular condition type

Alternative calculaton type/ condition base value/requirement

Hi
What is the role of alternative calculaton type, condition base value,requirement in pricing procedure.?
2) Where do we define value for alternative condition base value and alternative calculation type so that system picks up different value,when the value for alternative condition base value and alternative calculation type is mention in pricing procedure.

Dear,
*Alternative Calculation Type:*
This function allows you use a formula as an alternative in finding the value of the condition type, instead of standard condition technique. this can be used to calculate complex tax structures.
Alternative condition base value
The alternative condition base value is a formula assigned to a condition type in order to promote an alternative base value for the calculation of a value.
Example
An absolute header discount is, for example, distributed in the standard system according to the cumulative value of the items.
If the system distributes the absolute header discount according to volume based on the Alternative formula for condition base value , a header discount of $30 results in the following discounts:
Item Value Volume .
1 $1000 2 cbm
2 $500 4 cbm
Stand. disc. Volume disc.(With Formula)
$20 $10
$10 $20
Condition formula for alternative calculation type
Alternative formula to the formula in the standard system that determines a condition.
Requirement
This function is used to assign a requirement to the condition type. This requirement can be used to exclude the system from accessing the condition type and trying to determine the value. This can be used to specify that the condition type should only be accessed if the customer has a low risk credit.
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