Alternative items

dear gurus,
i came to know that we can maitain alternative items for eg) a-header material b-bom component .if b is not there we can use c.ie c is the alternative item.how to configure in bom.can any body explain the sub-items in bom?what is the difference between sub items and alternative items.please explain
-gide

Hi,
In BOM alternative items are assigned to alternative item group on the general
data.
In the production order in the general data tab page.
We can define the alternative item based on priority , strategy and usage probability.
Priority:
This defines the priority of the item within the alternative item group.
This determines the priority of planned withdrawls of items.
EX Two items are assigned to alternative item group
item A Priority 1
item B Priority 2
The system reads the item A first.
Strategy:
use the strategy to determine how the planned withdrawl is controlled
within the alternative item group.
The strategy should be same for all alternative items within a alternative
item group.
If the value 2( 100% check) is defined for the strategy the first material in
the defined priority sequence for which sufficient quantities are available
are reserved.
Usage Probability:
MRP Plans these alternative material components according to probability
of use.Material requirements for BOM Components are planned according
to usage probability.
The planned withdrawls for the production order are based on the
reservation lists.These lists are based on the priority and strategy.
Regards,
nandha

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Hi,
[Kindly check this link |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/1016bd4c8311d189520000e829fbbd/frameset.htm] which has information of the below.
Alternative item group
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I woould like to ask how can I make the Alternative item quantity to become editable. As of now, the system will calculate the percentage in the BOM and default it in the Production order.
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Hi,
Can you let us know why you want the user to make the changes manually ?
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Dear,
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Requrement qty --10
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Issue qty----
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Original qty----
10
Since you know the commitment qty now, You change it to
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Committed qty----7
Issue qty----
0
Original qty----
7
Item -2 usage probability -100
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Issue qty----
0
Original qty----
2
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0
Original qty----
1
Item -4 usage probability -0
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Issue qty----
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I have a scenario. A is a FG and X and Y are the child items. We want to use X or Y is a alternative items in the BOM. i.e If X is available in the system, system backflush the quantity from X and if X is not there system backflush the quantity from Y. And if X is available in partial quantity, sytem backflush first quantity of X and then balance Qty from Y. Priority given to X is 1 and to Y is 2.
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Hi G R,
Find below an example from a forum member - Mr. Mangalraj, i think it is one of the best ones to help understand the concept & usage. If after reading it, you need any more info revert.
Regards,
Vivek
Eg:
If there's a material Alt2 which can be used instead of a material called Alt1,now we will first form an Alternative item group using this 2 material.It can be more than 2 materials also.
Now in our case after u enter Alt1 as the line item for a HALB or FERT,select that entire row and click on Item details or Press F7.In Item data screen,in the bottom under general data u can find the field for Alternative item group.
Click that and enter the values as follows
A-Alt Item Group
2- Priority
2- Strategy
70% - Usage probability ,now come back.
Now enter Alt2 as the line item and after that as i said select that row & press F7.
Click on Alt.Item group button and enter the values.
A,
1,
2,
30%.Now save.
Now let's assume this BOM is used for a HALB.Let's assume 10 quantity is mentioned in the BOM for each of this line item.
Now if there's PIR for say 100 quantity
After running MRP for the HALB the requirements will be seen as Alt1 700 required & Alt2 300 required.
Here for the planning Only Usage Probability comes into picture.
When you are doing the production booking for making 100 quantities,the system shows 1000 quantity of Alt1 and no Alt2 will be seen in good's movement's screen.
Now the priority comes into picture,as we have given priority as 1 to Alt1 the systems proposes 1000 quantity of Alt1.
So while planning Only usage probability is considered and requirements fallas as per that.
While doing Production booking priority comes into picture.
So Here as we have maintained priority 1 and strategy as 2 for Alt1,the systems proposes 1000 quantity of Alt1.
If your strategy is then the planning & production will be as per the usage probability.
Second case:
If for Alt1 A & for Alt2- A
2 1
2 1
70% 30%
Planning will be 700 & 300 of Alt1 & Alt2.
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Hi experts,
I have the below scenario and settings
Requirement quantity for the item is 100
I have alternative items A, B and C. Settings are as follows in the BOM
For A - Group G1   Priority - 1 Strategy - 2   Usage probability - 20% Stock - 30
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But I am getting the results same for strategy 1 and strategy 2, I mean reservations are created as per usage probability.
Please clarify if any setting or input is missing.
Regards,
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Edited by: jejesh yal on Dec 9, 2008 2:25 PM

Dear jejesh Yal,
Check this thread,
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Revert back still if you have any queries.
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Regards
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I have seen discussion on alternative items in BOM. Thanks for all for sharing your knowledge. I knew alternative items will be choosen while creating / release of production order (material availability check)
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For material A, I am using component B as priority 1 and component C as priority 2.
During MRP run, system needs to CHECK component B first. If stock is not available for component B then system need to consider component C automatically. It should not create any planned order for component B.
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If not, is there is any user exit. Customer is asking this facility. Its his basic requirement.
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Hi.
I might have typed it wrong, I think the right one is called DIMP.
As far as I know you don't have to purchase it. In the past those extensions were known as Industry Solutions, in this case Automotive and A&D.
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Dear Greig,
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You could post your requirement in our SAP Business One Product
Development Collaboration forum by using the following thread.
/community [original link is broken]
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Message was edited by:
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Purna,
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