Alternative northbridge cooling solutions - P43 Neo-F

Hey guys, I'm running my q6600 at 3.2 ghz and the northbridge heatsink is very hot. It's also very lightweight, seemingly designed more for form than function (although it does look cool). I was just wondering if anyone could give me any pointers on how I could improve the situation.
I guess I could stick a small fan to the top, but can anyone recommend a small enough fan that will be quiet (that is available in UK)? Also how to attach it? Those thermal adhesive pad things?
Or just put on another heatsink, but are they generally one size fits all or do i need to find one for this particular board?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

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with the p43 neo which i believe there identical too p43 neo 3 apart from cooling on motherboard and bios versions(layout same ,features same,chipset same) ,anyway I will hit a 417/418 fsb and will become totally unstable and freeze on me(while using dual core centre) or if using bios overclocking will reboot until it goes back to defaults, have also tried everything voltage wise, have dropped multipliers and it is definitely a motherboard fsb wall issue.
even tried putting a fan over northbridge to cool as seems to run very hot(is now just warm too touch so ok),but makes no difference to overclocking and is annoying hell outta me, as i bought an e8200 to specifically overclock and best i can get stable is 3300
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coolermaster igreen 600w
msi p43 neo-f (latest official bios)
dual core E8200
xigmatek s1284 with arctic silver
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samsung f1 1gb
seagate 500gb hard drive
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with only 2/4gb of ram
all conceivable variations of mch,vfsb,ich mem voltage etc (have not messed with clock drive and skew etc as i am not aware how they effect things)
dropping cpu multi to 7, then raising to fsb of 417 again results in restarting until defaults etc meaning board is hampering overclocking.
upping voltage to cpu-this results in absolutely no better overclocking as it is mobo stopping higher clocks.
Bug I noticed- sometimes on booting into windows after a few minutes with an overclock through bios the mch would show the mch as 2.57v in the dual core centre(i reset to defaults in dual core centre whenever it happens) dont know if this is a bug with bios or dual centre the mch in bios I have set it to is 1.35v, id imagine if it was actually at this voltage it would crash out and fry wouldnt it? but dosent seem to affect anything.
dual core centre often also shows a 1.9 voltage on my memory when it is set to 1.8 in bios, i again reset to defaults in dual core centre and appears to reduce voltage.

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with the p43 neo which i believe there identical too p43 neo 3 apart from cooling on motherboard and bios versions(layout same ,features same,chipset same)
As I already told you elsewhere, these boards are not identical. They are similar as they use the same chipset, but they are not identical.
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while using dual core centre
Don't use Dual Core Center if you are looking for a stable overclock.
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if using bios overclocking will reboot until it goes back to defaults, have also tried everything voltage wise, have dropped multipliers and it is definitely a motherboard fsb wall issue.
Which settings have you used. Please write down ALL Cell Menu settings you used for the highes stable overclock you were able to achieve so far.
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A-data 800mhz ram 8gb (I have pretested in anouther machine upto 900mhz at 1.8v)
That does not mean much. Different board, different chipset/memory controller, different BIOS usually mean different overclocking behaviour. As soon as you go beyond 400 MHz FSB-Clock Speed you are overclocking your 8GB of DDR2-800 memory which is likely to be a cause of instability. Have you raised the memory voltage at any point above 1.8V?
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dual core centre often also shows a 1.9 voltage on my memory when it is set to 1.8 in bios, i again reset to defaults in dual core centre and appears to reduce voltage.
Uninstall Dual Core Center, it is not the best tool every conceived by men.
Further Questions:
1) Have you disabled DOT in BIOS?
2) Have you disabled EIST in BIOS?
3) Have you disabled C1E Support in BIOS?
4) Have you disabled Spread Spectrum im BIOS?

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I am using a MSI P43 Neo F Board(MS-7519).
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Quote from: Adiel on 13-April-11, 04:02:00
You have not used P43 Neo F I suppose, that mobo does not go above 400 or 415 fsb, search the internet, its a common problem, and the only solution is the one i posted. But why is that the bios of my mobo does not have this option??
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Quote from: Fredrik on 13-January-12, 07:07:59
So there is no difference with or without either intake fans or your new chipset fan? I was about to ask, why you used them then in the first place. But I wont do that!
Then
- Something else must be blocking the air-flow, too. '
- Or the heat sink has a very bad original seating.
- Or the sensor or reading program has gone mad. - That would me the most logical point, wouldn't it?
I use the intake fans for direct airflow to hard drives and my graphics card that's why I use them. The fan I currently have attached to the NB heat sink does work but I'm looking for a more permanent solution.
Also just for clarification I'm not using software to monitor my northbridge. If you noticed in the picture I linked to in one of my last posts I have a temp probe inserted into the heat sink and the heat sink itself is at 80C+. So yes the heat sink has proper contact with the NB otherwise it wouldn't get that hot.
Here's a link to another pic showing how short the heat sink is compared to the older heat sinks (yes I know the old heat sink is sitting on the pci slots but you can still see the difference). Also note the orientation of the slots on the current cooler where the H100 cpu block prevent my top fans from pulling air across the NB.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8734/1001087y.jpg

Need help to oc msi p43 neo

hello all,
I just got my new computer fresh from the shop:
cpu - c2d e5200
cpu fan - arctic cooler freezer pro 7
mobo - msi p43 neo
(http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1484)
memory - kingston 800mhz 2gb*1 value - I think the timings are 6-6-6-18
gpu - sapphire radeon 4850 dual slot fansink
psu - jsp-tech (ezcool) 450w
hd - wd 640gb
case - silverstone ps02b with two case fans
bios version is 1.7
OS - windows xp sp3
I want to do a moderate oc on this baby, but I'm afraid since it's my first time. I read a lot from the internet and also the manual but still have several questions.
1) I understand that in this mobo there is no need to adjust the pci and pci-e bus?
2) I plan to do a modest oc - raise it only to 3.0ghz. the bios has gray "auto" next to all of the voltages brackets. can I keep it in "auto"?
does "auto" means stock voltages or will the voltages rise when I'll raise the fsb?
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5) is there other items I should change in the bios?
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if your going to oc it in 3.0 ghz just raised the fsb 286.. reboot and see if theirs and error..
dont change anything yet..

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After messing about quite a bit with this board with various CPU's and Memory, reading comments by other users and OC'ers on other boards, it seems I've come to the bottom of the problem with my Memory / CPU issue's on my board.
First once again: the used hardware
Board:MSI 7519 V1.0 P43 Neo-F mainboard
CPU: Intel E6550 / E6600
Cooler: Scythe Mine rev. B, stock fan (100mm @ 1500rpm)
Memory: 2GB kit G.E.I.L. DDR2 800 cl5 "black dragon"
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CE1, Spread spectrum, Speedstep and "OC boost modes" are disabled.
Memory is on auto (which results in 5-5-5-15) at 2.1V
MCP voltage is on 1.100 (since I don't want it to go over for no reason)
CPU core is at 1.375V in bios, resulting in 1.356~1.378V in CPUZ and Coretemp. (varies with every boot)
I've tried with both my E6550 and a borrowed E6600, but for some reason, the board will not pass it's POST at any FSB higher than 415mhz.
(resulting in 830mhz DDR2, and a 2904mhz for the E6550 and 3733mhz for the E6600 (at 1.388V))
This all makes me wish I got the older E6600 instead, eventhough it gets quite hot. Which brings me to the topic of temps: E6550 OC after 1 hour Orthos = 54degrees. (and 33 / 39 idle) For some reason, Windows prefers core2, which Idle's a lot higher (39) than core1.(33)
The E6600 got to the awefully high temperature of 68 degrees after 2 hours Orthos.
But now the issue: As soon as I pop the FSB to 416, 417 or 420, the system will no longer boot, and I will get the "OC failed" message after shutting the power down.
I've read quite a few reviews and many people seem to encouter these problems. Boards with same chipsets, seem to go to quite a bit higher. (435 being the worst one in the same price range: the Gigabyte DS3 P43 version.)
Am I overlooking something? Would more voltage sort these problems? (I already went a bit overboard just to test)
Are there settings I'm missing?
Any help would be greatly appriciated!!!

Quote from: skip741 on 15-October-08, 05:46:56
Hi Unicron, read ur post and thought id give you some feedback.Im the guy who originally posted the 417fsb wall thread.I beleve these boards with the p43 chipset Do indeed have something going on which limits the higher fsb speeds seen by p45 series. Id be interested to hear if Any one with a p43 version msi board has achieved speeds beyond 415-417. I know the p45 chipsets have gotten thru the 500fsb barrier.I had tried Every bios available for my p43 neo3-f board and EVERY possible bios setting and yet never got beyond that 417 limitation. Voltages raised in cell menu have No effect on getting thru it. board is strong and stable Up to that point, then 1 mhz beyond there is no post or freezing as it enters desktop.Ultimately after spending 3 weeks intensive trying everything and scouring every forum and msi tech for advice, to no avail, i just gave up on it and returned my board to manufacturer. I purchased another brand of board and went right thru that fsb wall with same hardware and cpu.i was able to achieve 535fsb no problem. I had tried to post "which" board i went with before on this forum but was censored heavily for trying to do so. I guess such sharing is Not allowed. Moderators take that as promoting "other" manufacturers boards and frown on it.My intent was only to share what i learned and help others. So i have to keep that info to myself sadly.. anyway thats my 2 cents, my name is Paul. good luck !
Yes, I think we discovered the same thing:
The MSI P43 Neo boards don't go over 414, 415 or 417mhz FSB.
Nor do various other brands. I must say I haven't found/read about a P43 board that does. But I guess if you claim there 's such a board, it must exist.
I'm done looking. Next time I'll buy a higher end board. Low end CPU + Low end board OC isn't a very good idea. I should've gone with a X48 MSI DDR2 board + E9650.

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Quote from: Jack t.N. on 09-November-09, 05:12:28
The P45 Memory controller natively supports only DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 modules. From the point of view of the chipset, DDR2-1066 is beyond specifications. Also, your memory modules are just DDR2-800 sticks with a permission to overclock, not native DDR2-1066 modules, built to work @1.8V.
This double overclocking makes a stable system @DDR2-1066 somewhat of a hit & miss situation.
Do you have options to tweak the DDR Reference Voltage Values in BIOS?
Nope, I didn't find a DDR Ref Voltage value.
Hmm , I thought the MSI specs posted would mean the chipsets and mainboard can sustain double overclocking...
Cause the memory module report on the MSI website actually has my memory set, and results were OK when operating at DDR2-1066.
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodtestreport&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170&cat3_no=&prod_no=1484
I wonder what settings they used...

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P43 Neo F - no sound device

I have a P43 Neo F board , XP proffessional SP3
Recently my sound device (Realtek) has dissapeared and there is no sound in the computer.
In the Device Manager ther is a PCI device with yellow question (?) mark and no drivers installed.
Under Details of the PCI I have VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_75191462
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I tried to install/update drivers - but the system doesn't find them.
Tried to reinstall Realtek driver - it didn't t change anything
Upgraded Intel drivers - no success
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Quote from: Svet on 13-April-09, 08:54:41
Go to device manager, then expand "System Devices", and locate "MS UAA bus" Right click over it, then click "Disable".
Reboot and enter in "Safe Mode", {hit "F8" just after bios post screen}
Once done go to device manager then expand "System Devices", and locate "MS UAA bus" Right click over it, then click "Un-install".
Reboot PC, then run Realtek driver installation again.
If problem persist use:
>>> Unknown Devices 1.4.20 Beta with updated ID lists <<<
Thanks Svet
Still no solution ....
But I don't see any "MS UAA bus" under the System devices
What will be the effet of the "UKD_14-20_Beta_updated_july_08.exe " that you provided link to ?
Computer Info
Chipset:
Computer Name: DAN-DESKTOP-MSI
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3, v.5657 (OEM)
Device Tree
Other devices
PCI Device
Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller
Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI)
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* Hardware ID - VEN_8086&DEV_3A3E&SUBSYS_75191462&REV_00
* Device Category (Class) - Other devices
* Enumerator - PCI
* Detected Chip Vender - Intel Corporation
* Detected Chip Device - HD Audio Controller
* Detected Vender - Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI)
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