Alternative Solution to sapmnt Folder Sharing

Hello
We are installing NW CE 7.1 in Production Environment in Distributed Mode - App Server on one host and DB Server on another host.
The App and DB server OS are Windows Server 2008 R2 and DB is Oracle 11g. We have successfully installed SCS on the app server and now installing DB Server Instance on the DB Host. While installing the same, the SAP Installtion asks for path of SAPMNT.
Our Network Team has informed that due to security reasons, in production data center they will not be able to allow sharing of folder from App Server. They have asked us to check if there is any other way of completing our installation without actually creating folder share on App Server.
We would like to know whether the sharing can be taken out of the server component and the same can be enabled on the different machine and this can be given the UNC path for accessing the same.
Kindly confirm if this is possible and supported by SAP. Also let us know if there are some other supported options regarding the same.
Regards,
Shubham

Hi,
>> I understand that profile file created during SCS Installation is used by DB Instance while installation so that it can read the profile parameters.
Generally, it is correct.
>> Also the communication between App Server and DB Server will happen on some port 15XX and not file share port.
Central service instance,central instance and dialog instance communicating each other by port 39<instance#> or 36<instance#>
>> So now the question is does DB needs the access to this SAPMNT folder share once the server is started? If can understand if I restart the server the connection might be required as the DB Instance might read the profile file again. Please correct if this understanding is wrong.
J2EE engine use "sapmnt" share at the bootstrap phase to read secure store lib directory. Additionally, at the very beginning of the startup of the J2EE instance, the jcontrol process reads "instance.properties" file by using "saploc" share.
In short these shares should be available by the database instance during the runtime.
>> And If its required does the DB Instance uses this folder share to write any log back to the App Server Log files - defaulttrace, application.log etc?
Trace files will not be generated, if the J2EE engine not started respectfully under "j2ee/cluster/server<x>/log" folder. As a n additional info, even if the shares dropped during the runtime, the system will continue to generate trace files.
I hope that everything is clear.
Best regards,
Orkun Gedik

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Hello
We have finished a distribued install of SAP CE 7.1. SCS and PAS is on one App Server, DB on another App Server. For installation we have opened App Server file sharing port to allow DB to access SAPMNT Folder. Our security team feels, it should be closed now and only opened as on need basis. The folder will however be available to access by the Primary Applicaiton Server. Basically they will block the file sharing port
I would like to know the impact of this on the servers. As I tried, if you do the system still keeps running. So this beings an interesting questions.
- Why is this folder share required?
- What happens if we disable it for outside access?
- Does DB Server instance actually something back to this folder share?
Any pointers on the same will be helpful.
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ST

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>> I understand that profile file created during SCS Installation is used by DB Instance while installation so that it can read the profile parameters.
Generally, it is correct.
>> Also the communication between App Server and DB Server will happen on some port 15XX and not file share port.
Central service instance,central instance and dialog instance communicating each other by port 39<instance#> or 36<instance#>
>> So now the question is does DB needs the access to this SAPMNT folder share once the server is started? If can understand if I restart the server the connection might be required as the DB Instance might read the profile file again. Please correct if this understanding is wrong.
J2EE engine use "sapmnt" share at the bootstrap phase to read secure store lib directory. Additionally, at the very beginning of the startup of the J2EE instance, the jcontrol process reads "instance.properties" file by using "saploc" share.
In short these shares should be available by the database instance during the runtime.
>> And If its required does the DB Instance uses this folder share to write any log back to the App Server Log files - defaulttrace, application.log etc?
Trace files will not be generated, if the J2EE engine not started respectfully under "j2ee/cluster/server<x>/log" folder. As a n additional info, even if the shares dropped during the runtime, the system will continue to generate trace files.
I hope that everything is clear.
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OK, I inadvertently posted a comment meant for an enhancement to be posted tomorrow, so here we go with tomorrows enhancement of the day:
Talking once more about delegation... There's quite a big fly in the ointment we need to talk about:
While delegation granting dialogues in OBEO and bcentral take care of permissions for default folders like inbox, sent items, drafts etc. and pseudo folders like calendar or contacts, it does not so for non-default folders.
We have the case of a superior that has a widely ramified folder structure and granted his secretary access to parts of it. When the secretary changed he changed delegation, and this did not change the non-default acls.
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10065126: READD THE SUB FOLDER SHARING OPTION TO OBEO
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As currently product management does not seem to be considering
readding the desired dialogue (nor a tree switch for beectl perms
related commands) lets look at our workaround.
Lets look at it in an example: user user_a has set up a delegation to
user_b, allowing access to his inbox.
If you have set this up (using OBEO or BCentral as alternatives) a new
Principal Record has emanated, that you can list with "beectl
list_users":
bhowner@bhhost:~> beectl list_users email addr@mydomain show more
Display Record: 1
===========================================
User Identifier: user=user_a
Family Name: user_a
Principal Record: 6
===============
Principal Identifier: pcpd=145F:5618:user:9B37CFDA0D624736B413FEF81573597400000000000E -> 145F:5618:user:D8D547BB10AD4C079CE3A2604996535B000000000000,user=user_a
Principal Name: 145F:5618:user:9B37CFDA0D624736B413FEF81573597400000000000E -> 145F:5618:user:D8D547BB10AD4C079CE3A2604996535B000000000000
Delegated Principal: Yes
DELEGATOR: user=user_a
DELEGATED TO: user=user_b
Lock status: UNKNOWN.
bhowner@bhhost:~>
An ACL to the inbox has been generated:
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------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
accessor | access_types
------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
pcpd=145F:5618:user:9B37CFDA0D624736B413FEF81573597400000000000E | +RWDO
-> 145F:5618:user:D8D547BB10AD4C079CE3A2604996535B000000000000,us |
er=user_a |
------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
Listed LocalACL for entity 'fldr=INBOX,wksp=user_a's Personal Workspace,enpr=myenpr'
bhowner@bhhost:~>
Now we need to generated similar ACLs for all subfolders of
exampl-fldr, which, being a non-default folder, did not receive any
ACL:
So let's connect to BEE_DATA on the BEEDB, preferrable through SQLDeveloper, and run
SELECT 'beectl add_local_ace --entity "'
||trim(TO_CHAR(c.enterprise_id,'0XXX'))
||':'
||trim(TO_CHAR(c.site_id,'0XXX'))
||':'
||c.container_type
||':'
||c.eid
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-- , f.name,
-- , c.path
FROM bee_data.ws_real_folders f,
bee_data.ocs_containers c
WHERE f.eid=c.eid
AND c.path LIKE '/dla/user_a''s Personal Workspace/exampl-fldr%'
AND c.container_type='afrh'
This will generate the beectl commands necessary to work around the
missing switch. You need to run those commands afterwards.
Of course this is not supported, but your only alternative is
right-clicking all of the subfolders of exampl-fldr and grant the new
user access manually.
I would be happy if Oracle would enhance this are of user and rights
management of beehive.
Regards, Tom
Edited by: snmdla on Jan 23, 2012 4:20 PM

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Rajesh Panchal wrote:
Consider, we have two machines 'A' and 'B'. On machine 'B' we have a folder with absolute path 'C:\SharedFoderTest\Folder' and this folder is not a shared folder.
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