Alternative to Apogee Duet?

I think I'm ready to move on from Duet. It sounds great, but I just seem to spend too much time listening to static. I'm sure there's an answer to this and I usually can get things working very nicely in the end- but not for long. I would really prefer to use an interface that is idiot proof and just very reliable.
So is there an interface that works more or less trouble free? I'm on a MAC and I am using Logic 8 and MAX MSP.
Any recommendations would be most welcome.
Many thanks.

I had a problem with my Duet too and worked with Jeff in Apogee Support. He was very helpful, but my problem never got resolved. I returned the first one because the best guess we could make was that it must have been defective, and ended up returning the second one as the static never went away and it finally just died. It was under store warranty and I ended up getting a MOTU Ultralite instead because I just didn't want to bother with futzing with the Duet anymore. I really wish Apogee had been able to solve the problem because when it was working the Duet really was dead easy to use with Logic and it sounded incredibly good, but I was pretty frustrated. Apogee should be on the lookout for two Duets returned from the Boston Guitar Center and maybe they can figure it out. The MOTU is more complicated to use but I didn't notice any drop off in quality, and it works really well with Logic. I'd have preferred to have stayed with Apogee because they seem like a great company but after having mysterious problems using the Duet for months, my patience was at an end.

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    I've had my Apogee Duet since about feb and never had any problems until this afternoon. For some reason the Duet doesn't seem to want to interface with my computer at all anymore. When plugged in, the lights light up on the Duet however under system profiler I get the "unable to list firewire devices" error msg. Under the Sound tab in preferences, the Duet is not listed as an available I/O. In the Apple Midi Setup or whatever it's called in utilities, the icon for the Duet is still there but it doesn't show it as online. I can still press the big button and the little green light cycles through input 1/input 2 yada yada yada, but the computer doesn't seem to see it. When I open up Maestro, both the control and mixer screens are completely blank. I've tried resetting the unit (holding button down for 5 seconds), using different firewire cords, and finally uninstalling and reinstalling the Maestro software (using the Duet software - May 2008 link on apogees site) and none of these things solve the problem. I haven't had a chance to plug in another FW400 device into my Macbook Pro to see if it's a problem with the port, but I get the same result with the Duet on my MBP and my G5 PPC tower, which leads me to believe it's a problem with the unit. Also, since it's bus-powered, the lights wouldn't light up if the ports on the computer were fried, right?? Has this happened to anyone else?? Any ideas on how to fix it before calling up Apogee?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    Hey everyone. I recently bought the Apogee Duet which is friggin awesome by the way. I am now in need of an external 7200 HD that I will be saving all of my recordings onto.
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