Alternatives to Mail Rules After iCloud?
So we know that mail rules aren't included in the transition to iCloud.
What are you using as an alternative? I have 100+ rules and don't mind redoing them into a Lion/iCloud compatible application, just need some ideas. I know they'll continue to work into 2012, but the day will come when I'll have to transition.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
John
No idea about a replacement for sync, but I do have an idea for a workaround:
If Mail rules are stored here:
>Library>Mail>MessageRules.plist
Why couldn't you just manually copy that plist file from your master machine and (replacing the old one) install it in the Library>Mail folder of your secondary machine?
It seems simple -- so I must be underestimating something.
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