AltItem Group in BOM / Alternative Material
Experts,
In Assy A I have two materials B & C in BOM, I like to route the demands to material B as long as I have enough material on stock. If I have no stock or not enough of material B to cover demands of Assy A, system should automatically switch demands to material C.
Is there a way to set this up in SAP, ideally with MRP support to calculate demands between B and C.
Thanks in advance
Jörg
Dear Sir, in your case the item B and C are alternate items .For this you have to define the tewo material as alternate one.
SAy e.g B abd C are line item 10 and 11 respectivelly.Double click onthe first line item define a alternate item group,
than define priority Strategy and Usage probability.
Say for example
item Alternate Item Priority Strategy Usage Probability
B X 1 2 100
C X 2 2 100
For any issues please revert back
Regards
Bhupendra Singh
Edited by: laxmi23101975 on Jun 3, 2011 10:50 AM
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If there are alternative items maintained in the BOM,then as per the usage probability defined for each
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So goto CS03,say Items X and Y are defined under alt.item group A1,now select the first item(row) X
and click on item details and check under Basic tab page you will be able to see the alt.item group
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I have one issue in BOM alternative item group I have made the settings as below.
Material 1 AltItemGroup 01
Priority 1
Strategy 2 100% check
Usage prob. 100
Material 2 AltItemGroup 01
Priority 2
Strategy 2 100% check
Usage prob. 100
For Material 1 required bill of material quantity is 65 MT
For Material 2 required bill of material quantity is 65 MT
Now I am creating the process order for quantity 1000 MT. When the material availability check done it proposing as below in process order.
Material 1 = 65 MT (Available Stock 807.109 MT)
Material 2 = 0 MT (Available Stock 5.850 MT)
And again Material 2 = 32.5 MT
My question is as per above settings and stock situation of the material it should propose only Material 1 = 65 MT. But here system is also proposing Material 2 = 32.5 MT. Can any one tell what I am doing wrong?
Any settings are missing or what will be output for the above settings.
Please explain in detail.
Thanks in Advance
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GaneshHi Ganesh,
Pl. make the following settings:
Material 1 AltItemGroup 01
Priority 1
Strategy 2 100% check
Usage prob. 100
Material 2 AltItemGroup 01
Priority 2
Strategy 2 100% check
Usage prob. 0
The strategy 2 will automatically handle the situation when Material 1 is not available and 2 is available.
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how to maintain alternative material in a BOM for a component.if stock for existing bom component is less then it should consider other alternative material in the same BOM
HI,
You can maintain alternate material for BOM Component by specifying Alternate Item group as below;
Go to CS03/CS02--> Items-> Select Component and go to details->Basic Data Tab--> General Data
Pls. find more details about Alternate Item group maintainance as below:
Alternative item: group
Consolidation of alternative items within a BOM. Every material in the assembly can be included in the alternative item group.
Use
As soon as you enter an alternative item group, you see an additional dialog box with the following data: ranking order, strategy, usage probability.
You can maintain alternative items in the following situations:
Alternative positions with specific usage probability
These alternative items are incorporated with a specific usage probability. Enter the usage probability for each alternative item in the group, so that:
dependent requirements are determined in requirements planning
dependent requirements are changed to a reservation in the production order
Alternative positions as information
You can enter an alternative item for information purposes. This item would then, for example, only be taken into account in situations involving missing parts.
As there should be neither dependent requirements nor a reservation for this item, enter no usage probability.
Procedure
Enter the same character string to denote the alternative items of an alternative item group.
Enter the same strategy for all alternative items in the alternative item group.
Dependencies
Alternative items are valuated in the following way:
Dependent requirements determination
Requirements planning determines the dependent requirements according to the usage probabilities that have been entered.
If the usage probability is 0%, then no procurement is planned for the item. For information purposes, however, dependent requirements with 0 as quantity are created.
Withdrawal posting
You can control the withdrawal posting for the resevation in the production order in the following way:
Withdrawal according to usage probability (manual change is possible)
Withdrawal if there is 100% availability
(Check ranking order and strategy)
Example: See Strategy for alternative position
Further you can also maintain alternate material if you want to stop using this material at certain time as below:
In material master of the material ,
Go to MRP-4 View----> Under Discongtinued parts specify
Discontinuation Indicator
Eff-out.
Follow-up matl
So system will automatically consider follow up material in BOM as per the settings you have maintained for the material to be replaced.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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I have a BOM with 1 material & want to add 1 alternative material if previous one is not available in stock.
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Alternative items can be added to the BOM without alternate BOM.
In change mode of BOM CS 02 go to BOM item details There you can see alternative items with item group
There you can define you items with Priority,usage probability , Strategy,
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For -
X1,------
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For -
X2----
Priority -
2
Strategy - -
2 ,100%
Usage prob -
0
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As I know, standard SAP cannot solve your problem. Howerver, you can try with these way:
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X1,------
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Strategy - 2 ,100%
Usage prob 0
For -
X2----
Priority -
1
Strategy - -
2 ,100%
Usage prob -
100
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Dear Gurus
I want to create the BOM for Computer = Screen + Herdisk + Key board
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I have maintained item category group LUMF in MMR (Sales 2 screen) of the finished product
(Computer 2).
What item category group should be maintained for sub items?
3) Also explain about how to mainatin the master records (CS01).
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Edited by: Ashish Desai on Apr 8, 2009 1:10 AMAshish,
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Standard process and ORder = OR
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Sathya -
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I'm having the problem with Alternate group in BOM. I'm maintaining the the raw materials in BOM i.e A1,A2,A3,A4 like that number of materials is there.
I'm grouping the materials with alternate group
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A2: Alt Grp-01, Priority-2, Strategy-2, Usage-0%
A3: Alt Grp-01, Priority-3, Strategy-2, Usage-0%
A4: Alt Grp-01, Priority-4, Strategy-2, Usage-0%
I given the qty for all raw materials is 100kg.
While i'm converting planned order to Process order. The BOM materials is taking as
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A4 - 0kg
Why 1000kg taken and I don't need the materials A2, A3 and A4 in the process order. Is there any option to get drop-down list. May be its customizing.
NarenDear
Why do not your go for Discontinued Material concept in case if you think that A2/A3/A4 should be be considered based on the stock avaliablity .
In MRP4 view for material A1 , you can keep the Discontinued Material , Effective Out Date , Discontinued Material Indicator as 1 so that when ever there is a stock un-availablity , it should be considered while planning and sub sequently in process order .
When copiying BOM to Prococessd order , there is no operatunity to change the qty because it happens automatically based on the order type dependent parametrs for process order (OPL8 ) but you can change the qty in process order change mode -compoenet over view .
If you are maintaining production verion , you can implement BAdI MD_MODIFY_PRODVERS or MODIFY_PRODUCTION_VERSION based on stock situation .
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JH -
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Right now i need to implement a user exit for the BOM alternative in CS01 screen. For a particular BOM Usage we should not allow the user to create alternative other than '1'. So before getting the automatic alternative i need to implement the user exit/Badi for the checking on the alternative.
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rajesh.Hi,
There is a standard customzing for alternative BOM in CS01...
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In our current SAP solution (SAP R/2) each routing alternative stores a link to an associated Bill of Material alternative. We have noticed that in mySAP ERP the routing alternatives can store BOM alternatives in the Component Allocation tab, but if you look at the header table for routing PLKO there is a field for associated BOM alternative (STLAL). If we select a BOM alternative this field is still not populated.
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To change T.code cs02.
A routing is created for the header material. T.code ca01.
To change T.code ca02.
In the routing, if you click the component allocation tab, you can see both the alt BOMs. From here you can select the BOM you want & then save. All the material will be allocated to the first operation by default.
Reg. Prod version:
You can create eg version 1 Routing + Alt BOM1
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BOM explosion where first BOM alternative has deletion flag
Hi,
I got the following very basic scenario:
One FERT material has two BOM alternatives (alternative 1 and 2). Both of them are valid in terms of date, status and lot size. When a production order is created by CO01 the system will pick automatically alternative 1 (which is ok for me). BUT if this BOM alternative 1 gets a deletion flag (on BOM alternative header) I would expect that the system would automatically pick alternative 2 (it is the "next" suitable alternative). But the systems says there is no valid BOM available.
Only if I really delete alternative 1 (so I cannot see it anymore in CS02), the system would pick alternative 2 (because it is now the really first one available - no version in front with only deletion flag). But in terms of documentation I cannot delete the alternatives.
Maybe somebody could explain that to me or had a similar problem...
BR and thanks in advance.
ChristianHi Guys,
many thanks for your suggestions. Setting the status to inactive did the trick. Obviously the deletion flag is not enough at this point.
Just to clarify - production version of course would be an option but that did not work with the following:
I have 6 different routings for this FERT and the user has to choose when the production order is created. That works basically fine when the order is created with CO01 (popup for selection of production version based on MRP4 setting). BUT when a planned order is converted directly from MD04 into a production order the system would automatically pick production version 1 (no matter what setting in MRP4 view). If there are no production version the user would get at least a popup for choosing a routing. But this would maybe an additional thread in the forum
Thanks
Christian -
SD-PP integration: BOM alternative
hello, friends. i wish to ask you about transfer of requirements from SD to PP.
when processing the sales order, the user can manually select the BOM alternative via a dialog box. in standard, BOM with usage 3 (universal) and 5 (SD) are supported.
i notice that after we run MRP, in the planned order the BOM usage is 1 and alternative is defaulted to the first in the order sequence. this is true if the BOM selection method in the material master MRP 4 view is either for production version or blank.
if the selection method is by key date, then the BOM in the planned order will be the first in sequence for alternatives by key date.
in variant configuration, the specific requirements are transferred. but for a simple BOM, in neither situation is the alternative selected in the sales order transferred. why is this so? are there missing settings?
hoping for your valued inputs.
many thanks.Hi
In case of Variant configuration(VC) , the BOM Selection will be based on Dependencies assigned to the Components. In VC there is no alternative BOM Concept. There will be one Simple BOM called Super BOM which contain all the components which is required to make all the variants of K-mat.
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