Amarok, ipod and smart playlists

Ok, I'll post here, since the amarok site is slooooow at the moment...
When I copy a smart playlist from amarok to my ipod the playlist is converted to a "normal playlist" or am i missing something ? I want to create a smart playlist on my ipod that automatically updates while I listen to music on it, like iTunes (and gtkpod) does...

kasa wrote:Well, the 2G nano supports them for sure (just re-tried with gtkpod).
but are they pregenerated on the computer from the knowledge of what's on your ipod? It'd be easy for gtkpod to make a playlist containing whatever you want on the ipod, but it be a regular playlist.
Or does the ipod itself update them, depending on things like playcount and such?
James

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I've solved this problem by working through an unrelated problem. Try the solutions in these two articles:
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93716
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