Ambiguity in use of MIGO in Subcontracting process

Hi
I could not able to use MIGO for transfer of components to SC vendor with reference to Subcontracting order. (using 'transfer posting' application and in reference, 'purchase order' is not been provided to use 541 mvt with ref to SC PO).
Whereas this can be done with MB1B; here transfer of components from unrestricted use to stock provided to vendor can be done with reference to subcontracting PO can be done (here in top, reference to purchase order is provided as push button)
Also to transfer components from a third party vendor directly to SC vendor; I can not able use MIGO with 101 movement to refer 'PO for components'; even though I could able to process it finally i am getting an error message that ' there is discrepancy in material document and components PO for vendor'; of course I have checked for it any messages with error and settings for field status and could not able to trace.
But this can be done easily using t-code MB01 without any such error
So I finally concluded that to to transfer componets to SC vendor with reference to Subcontracting PO (using 541 mvt) or to transfer components directly from a another vendor with reference to PO created, for components (using 101 mvt) one can not use MIGO; instead one shoud use MB1B and MB01 respectly.
Am I right?
Message was edited by:
srinivas vandana

Dear Srinivas,
<i>'Also to transfer components from a third party vendor directly to SC vendor; I can not able use MIGO with 101 movement to refer 'PO for components'; even though I could able to process it finally i am getting an error message that ' there is discrepancy in material document and components PO for vendor'; of course I have checked for it any messages with error and settings for field status and could not able to trace.'</i>
As I understand:
1. You purchase raw material from vendorA
2. Tha parts are received by vendorB (subcontractor; because this vendor uses the components).
3. You want to map this process in SAP
If you create your PO you can use 'SC vendor' thickbox on 'Delivery address' tab. If you use this and you receive the goods in MIGO your components will be get to the subcontractor's special stock (hopefully).
BR
Csaba

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Ambiguity in use of MIGO in subcontracting

Hi
I could not able to use MIGO for transfer of components to SC vendor with reference to Subcontracting order. (using 'transfer posting' application and in reference, purchase order is not been provided to use 541 mvt with ref to SC PO).
Where as this can be done with MB1B; here transfer of components from unrestricted use to stock provided to vendor can be done with reference to subcontracting PO can be done (here in top, reference to purchase order is provided as push button)
Also to transfer components from a third party vendor directly to SC vendor; I can not able use MIGO with 101 movement to refer 'PO for components'; even though I could able to process it finally i am getting an error message that ' there is discrepancy in material document and components PO for vendor'; of course I have checked for it any messages with error and settings for field status and could not able to trace.
But this can be done easily using t code MB01 without any such error
So I finally concluded that to to transfer componets to SC vendor with reference to Subcontracting PO (using 541 mvt) or to transfer components directly from a another vendor with reference to PO created for components (using 101 mvt) one can not use MIGO; instead one shoud use MB1B and MB01 respectly.
Am I right?
Message was edited by:
srinivas vandana

Dear Srinivas,
<i>'Also to transfer components from a third party vendor directly to SC vendor; I can not able use MIGO with 101 movement to refer 'PO for components'; even though I could able to process it finally i am getting an error message that ' there is discrepancy in material document and components PO for vendor'; of course I have checked for it any messages with error and settings for field status and could not able to trace.'</i>
As I understand:
1. You purchase raw material from vendorA
2. Tha parts are received by vendorB (subcontractor; because this vendor uses the components).
3. You want to map this process in SAP
If you create your PO you can use 'SC vendor' thickbox on 'Delivery address' tab. If you use this and you receive the goods in MIGO your components will be get to the subcontractor's special stock (hopefully).
BR
Csaba

Subcontract Process with vendor supplied component

Hi,
We have a subcontracting process, when we send 3 components to the vendor, the vendor apply another component and return the semi finished to me.
I have a BOM of this semi finished Good that includes all the 4 components.
We sent the 3 components via mb1b.
We create a PO of the Semi Finished Good if we verified the components the 4 components are there.
When we try to receive via MIGO and click in verify The 3 itens that I send is OK ... But the item that is supplied by the vendor show me an error message that there is no stock.
What should I do to receive the component supplied by the vendor ?

Hello,
1. Create subcontracting with item category "L" and second line item in same PO enter with Item cateogroy means STD.
2. Item level of the Delivery address tab, tick SC Vendor and enter the same Vendor code there.
3.Go for GR for only for 2nd line item first. This stock will automatically picks 101 O Mvt, and u can view this stock as Vendor stock.
Check MMBE stock overview , Material is showing provided to Vendor at plant level.
4. Provide other 3 components with MB1B- 541 Mvt.
5. Go for second GR for finished Product.
4th Material shown as Material provided to Vendor in stock overview. if you want to get back that same material to your stock. reverse that stock use t code MB1B with help of Movement type 542.
Or else.
Through subsequnet settelement you can send the 4th Material to your subcontrcator MB04.
Regards
Mahesh Naik

Cross company code subcontracting process

Dear Experts,
I want to map one scenario in sap mm.
We have 3 company codes within the client. Company A and Company B we have already implemented.
Now we are going to do Implementation for the third company C. Company C mainly doing a job work (service) only. Both the companies A and B are giving the job work to the Company C. Currently we are considering company C as a vendor. Company A and B will create a PO, Subcontract Challan and MIGO. PP process also we need to include in company C. If we implement SAP in company C how to map the Process.

Hi,
You can use subcontracting STO between plants that belong to company codes (intercompany STO with subcontracting):
Re: Subcontract
But in my opinion it is not the best solution in SAP because raw material flow is very dummy (you can transfer the components to the subcontracting special stock segment of the plant vendor - no component transfer between plants).
I would suggest you to check multi plant / multi site planning as alternative solution:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/f4/7d2d4d44af11d182b40000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
Reagrds,
Csaba
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 PM

Subcontracting process to multiple vendors

Dear friends,
We have got the subcontracting process as below.
1) Material is given to subcontracting vendor for making finished product.This job consists of 5 operations.
2) After making 1 operation at first vendor ,for remaining operations,partly processed material is given to second vendor from outside vendor to vendor.
3) After 2 nd operation is completed,remaining 3,4,5 operations,material is given to 3rd subcontracting vendor.
Then material is recieved to our place.
Material is moved from vendor to vendor without coming to our location.At the end of the process only finished prioduct will come to our location.
How to handle this scenario if finished product is completed within 180 days
---How to handle this scenario if finished product is completed more than 180 days.
--One condition is that it is not possible to take GR every time to our location and issue to next vendor because materials handling is very difficult every time.
Please suggest.
regards,
Canand

Hi Anand,
1. Create a PO to 1st vendor.
2. Maintain the required entries.
3. Go to delivery address tab tick SC Vendor
4. Maintain 2nd vendor here.
It means that after finishing first operation 1st vendor sends a matl. to 2nd vendor.
If u post migo for 1st PO(i.e. for 1st PO vendor) system says that matl is with 2nd vendor.
So u need not to send the matl to 2nd vendor.
Similarly, do it for other vendors also.
Here important thing is U have to send a PO to respective vendors for respective operations.
For the last vendor who gives u the finished product dont tick SC vendor to him. Maintain ue company delivery address.
and "answer for ur 180 days"
Who ever with the material once the matl went from ur company premices, from that day ur 180 days starts.
If it comes within 180 days no tax to pay on that material, other wise u have to pay tax.
further u need any clarification, do reply
Reward if useful
Regards
Viru

SubContract Process with Excise Flow

Hello All,
Can anyone please explain me in Detail Subcontract Process with Excise flow considering these...
1. Subcontracting without payment of Excise duty
2. Subcontracting under full payment of Excise duty
and if scrap is to generate under process. So how to maintain that in PO. and Later how to reconcile that in Excise flow..
I will be very thankful if anyone help me ...
Abhinay....

hi,
SUBCONTRACTING:
To create Subcontracting challan:
J1IF01 - Creating sub contracting Chelan
J1IFQ - Reconciliation for Chelan
J1IF13 - after receiving all items
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and auto consumption of components with 543 movement}
Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Note: - In this case, you have to maintain the Assessable Value for the Components to be supplied to Vendor in J1ID and also Excise Tax rates for the Chapter IDs linked with these components. So during J1IF01, system will take the Assessable Value as Excise base Value and calculates the Excise Duties by taking Excise Tax Rates.
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Master Data
MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
CS01 - BOM for FG
ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
Regards
Priyanka.P

What about scrap generated dooring Subcontracting Process

Hi all
Good Morning
In Subcontracting Process(i am sending Components to vendor).What about Scrap generated, how can i enter dooring Migo - Goods Receipt
Regards
Manju

hi
frist ly u have to maintain the scrap quantity in -ve value in the subcon po then do the normal process of gr and at time of gr give the actual quantity of the scrap
but at this stage the system will show the scrap quantity to the subcon stock ,so to make it to own stock do following
1.
Scrap
What kind of scrap we are speaking about?
a) If you pay the scrap you can get rid of it by MB1A + 551 + 'O' directly from SC vendor's special stock (I mean you can scrap the raw material (subcon-component)).
b) If the scrap was delivered by your to SC vendor via MVT 541 you can use MB1B + 542 to bring it back. It may happen that the raw material was delivered by one of your other vendors to your SC vendor (in this case the goods got to the special stock via MVT 101 O) - if the situation is this you can create a return delivery (MIGO + PO reference + MVT 122) and ask for replacement. You can also use MB1A + 551 + 'O' or MB1B + 542 - it depends how you want to handle the situation from business point of view.
2.
by-product
You write the by-product with negative qty in the BOM or directly into the component list of the subcon-PO (item level, material data 'tab' in ME2*N). This will be booked by 545 to special stock and if you want to receive this material you can use MB1B + 542.
the simple process steps are
1> create a bom tcode cs01 and mention the components and the scrap material but with -ive quantity
2> creaet a info record with the subcontracting category tcode me11
3> create a po with item category L tcode me21n
4> do the good reciept tcode migo
5> do the subsequent adjustment tcode migo but the display variant should be subsequnet adjustment
6> do the gr of scrap tcode mb1b movement type 542
7> do the invoice
regards
kunal
award if helpful
Edited by: kunal ingale on Aug 9, 2008 7:45 AM

Error while releasing Billing document in Subcontract process

Hi All,
We are working on Subcontract process as explained below:
Company code X purchases the component A and sends it to Company code Y on Subcontract. Company codes X and Y belongs to one company using single operative chart of Accounts, Controlling area & operating concern. FI configuration has been maintained in OBYA by treating above company codes Inter company GLs. The component A is sent to company code Y as non value added item. Through 501 movement type, as the component is sent by Company code X.
Company code Y will add some components (like B,C and charges some expenses as service component D for preparing Finished good) and send this FG to Company code X. For this company code Y will raise a Sales order and followed by MRP run and Production order is created.
In VA02 of above Sales Order, while entering Item details, where the Settlement rule is asking for PA Transfer structure (in Account assignment tab of Item details) and giving the following error analysis:
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A PA transfer structure is required for settlement to profitability analysis.
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You cannot save this settlement rule.
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Enter a PA transfer structure. To do this, choose the "Parameters" function in the settlement rule. As part of customizing, you can also store a default value for the PA analysis structure, in the settlement profile. The system then uses this default value when you enter a settlement rule.
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1. All required OBYC settings
2. All cost element and Cost element categories have been maintained
3. From MM side the system is generating FI & CO documents
4. Settlement profile in Production Order type is maintained (in KOT2). Allocation structure and PA transfer structure were maintained in (OK06, OK07 & KEI1). In PA transfer structure we have assigned the required Sources and Value fields and settlement cost elements.
5. In VKOA condition types KOFI and KOFK were maintained for relevant Customer & Material Account Assignment groups.
6. Required settings have maintained in OKB9.
Movement types 501 (sub contract), Received back to Company code X through Movement type 101. In spite of these settings still we are getting the above mentioned errors.
Could any one help to provide some inputs on the above issue as early as possible.
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
check in the sales order line item procurement tab . u can get the requirement type. in SPRo check the requiremnt class for the requirement type. in that requirement clas u will get settrlemnt profile for the sales order. Check that settlemnt profile there u have to maintain the PA transfer structure.
I think both problem will get solved by maintaing the PA structure..
You are doing sales order costing right....and i hope it is non vsaluated sales order costing .....
If help ful please assign points.
cheers
Prabhat

Goods Receipt in Subcontracting process

Hi,
I am beginner in SAP.
This is regarding Goods Receipt in Subcontracting process.
I have provided raw material Quantity = 100 Nos. to subcontracting vendor.
Subcontracting vendor done machining on 80 Quantity, and we have done Goods Receipt for 80 Quantity as Finished Parts.
Subcontracting vendor found 20 Quantity as Defected.
Shall I take back 20 Quantity by Movement Type 542.
OR
Shall I do Goods Receipt of 20 Quantity as Finished Product and price = 0. & then stock transfer of Finished to Raw Material.
Please reply.

Hi,
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Serial numbers for subcontracting process

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Regards,
Gilberto Gallardo.

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Serial no can be used for the following business transactions.
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3.maintenance orders
4.production orders.
Settings:
1. create a serial number profile in customising.
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scheduling view for fert and raw material in plant data / stor2 view..
Business procedures may be assigned in configuration to a serial number profile.
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by
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2. Vendor has the Auto PO checked in Vendor Master.
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Runtime error in MIGO for subcontracting order

Hi All
We have an issue in subcontracting process. We are trying to complete goods receipt for the multiple line items for subcontracting PO.
These multiple line item contains serialized materials. When we are trying to complete the GR, We are getting runtime error saying u201COnly 0 serial numbers entered instead of 1u201D
Any pointers in resolving this issue will be a great help to us.

Mohandevegowda wrote:
Hi All
>
> We have an issue in subcontracting process. We are trying to complete goods receipt for the multiple line items for subcontracting PO.
>
> These multiple line item contains serialized materials. When we are trying to complete the GR, We are getting runtime error saying u201COnly 0 serial numbers entered instead of 1u201D
>
> Any pointers in resolving this issue will be a great help to us.
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Pls check whether you have maintained the serial no for the material in mm01 tcode. When it comes to subcontracting process you will create a BOM by listing all your materials but when you take GR from subcontractor after some action is performed on that list of materials then definitely you have to manually give the serial no in MIGO or check automatic serial no there.you might have not placed anything over there.
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If Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
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Posting schema with price differences:
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Options in excise tab ( subcontracting Process)

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Subcontracting business process
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If you are making a process of Subcontracting , then you should be able to get Refer Subcontracting Challan in MIGO , for that in CIN--> Plant Setting you should REMOVE Tick from Depot against that plant also check that for the Excise Group if it is a subcontracting process Depot Setting should NOT be there.
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