AMD 3000 on K7N2G-ILSR won't boot

I just upgraded my CPU and RAM from an AMD 1600+ to a AMD 3000+ and from (2) 256MB Crucial DDR to (2) 512MB Kingston 333mhz DDR. I also installed a new fan that is recommended from AMD's website for the Athlon XP 3000+. The Thermaltake A1671 Volcano 10. After I installed the new RAM, CPU and FAN, the computer won't boot. The initial beep didn't even sound. I have the D-Bracket hooked up and it hangs at: "System Power ON - The D-LED will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly" The chip is OEM from a well known computer website Monarch Computer I also cleared the CMOS. Right now I have the new RAM (Kingston) running fine with my old CPU and the new fan is on the old CPU. Either the chip is dead or I am doing something wrong. Any help would be most appreciated.
thanks in advance,
jon

Hi,
I agree with previous posters as to your possible power issues. However, did you try setting your FSB jumper to SAFE when clearing CMOS - if not do so!
It's not included on Assaf's CMOS clearing guide on the forum but it's a good idea to do so! It is mentioned in a later post in that thread tho' - see here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?postid=274732&sid=#274732
Read Assaf's guide then "Santa Claw's" too!
Axel

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