AMD Athlon XP 2800 (Barton Core) will not post at FSB 166 MHz.

Per top of the board “stickys” I have read a great number of the post on this board and done my homework to provide as much technical info to help you help me. This should explain some of it’s lengthy nature.
Aside from Memory, HDD and Video card every thing else has been unplugged from board and power or stripped out of slots to isolate the problem.
Presently running BIOS: A6712 V. 1B
*As seen on face of MoBo: KT4V MS-6712 Ver:10A
*The Original Box bar code label: KT4V-L (601-6712-050)
K7, KT400. 5.1 chnl. S/W Audio, LAN, D-Bracket 2.
CPU: AMD Athlon AXDL 2800 DLV4D
Q334763K40034 AQYHA 0447APMW
Chip lable
Athlon XP (Barton) Low Power Processor (Model 10) 2083 MHz
OPGA Organic Pin Grid Array 1.50 Volt max. Temp. 85°C
512 KB L2 Cache 333 MHz System bus (166 MHz FSB) x 12.5
Memory: x3- PC 2700 512 mb DDR 333 Super Talent
And shows at post as running 333MHz. MemTested to 1,000% with first 1 stick, then all 3 sticks presently on bios A6712vms.1B0. at fsb 100MHz (aprox. 24hr.) I even installed and ran other AMD utillitys while MemTest was running to “stress” the system memory with zero errors. During this period I checked Windows Task Manager > Performance, CPU usage at 100%, PF usage 1.35gb. No Probs.
Video card: Removed: MSI AGP-8X Ti4200- VTD8X 128 MB DDR 533MHz
Replace with: PCI card (to rule out AGP card prob.) Gilmont, nVidia 64mb
(also tried Matrox AGP 32mb card with no different results then above cards)
Power Supply: L&C Model: LC-B350 ATX = 350 watt
      115/130v      B/4a      60/50 hz
      +3.3v/+5v   1+12v   -12/-5v    +5vsb
      28a   35a    16a    0.8a    0.3a   2a
   +3.3v combined load 200w
Cooler: Slim Volcano 10+, P/N A1671, rated for up to AMD Athlon CP 3400+ & fresh heat sink compound. Freshly re-seated.
All PCI slots empty as I attempt to run bare bones to eliminate problems. (except now running Vido card in 1 slot)
Floppy Drive: ribbon unplugged from board
HDD-0: Seagate 8 gb master, (HDD tested w/no errors)
O/S: Win. XP w/sp2
HDD-1: slave/ unplugged from ribbon and power
Sony CD-Rom: Unplugged from PCI slot and power
SATA/RAID-usb 2.0 card and other HDD’s, removed and not included till Sys. runs at full potential.
Exterior HDD and Burner beyond the scope here and not attached.
O/S Win. XP-sp2
BIOS I have tried: The original; Ver:10A, ran fine on Athlon XP 1600 (1400 MP) 3 years.
•   Then with MSI Live Update 3: Installed v. 1c which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz (MSI:” Fixes system reports incorrect message for AMD 3200+ CPU.
- Supports Sempron L2 512K 3000+ CPU.)
However, v. 1.c did not work and would not post at all with the newly installed Barton AMD-XP 2800. [frankly this attempt was months ago and I do not remember whether it would post at the slower 100 and 133 FSB speeds, and also to muddle my memory further I was upgrading an A7N8X-D with a Barton XP 3000 and having similar problems on the ASUS,,, which is now running fine at full potential. ; - p
•   Then I selected and flashed A6712 V 1.7 122602, boots and runs Win.XP-sp2 at FSB 100MHz & 133MHZ. (MSI:” Supports AMD Barton XP2800+ (FSB333) CPU
-Fixes system sometimes will have IDE CRC error -Fixes D-bracket2+USB keyboard, cannot use keyboard on DOS mode.)” which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz.
I checked with the Tech. at the local shop where I purchased the KT4V MoBo. He suggested I try a different BIOS but he didn’t specify which one. He is a personal friend and admits to some bad luck and dead boards due to flashing bios so reluctant to mess with it.
•   Now running: A6712vms.1B0 – MSI hid this BIOS V. found here:
•   http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=362&kind=1
•    On a different page than the 2 versions mentioned above. http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp
•    No wonder people are frustrated and confused about different MoBo versions there ID #’s and the BIOS versions them selves as seen on this news board. MSI’s fault, no fault of anyone here trying to help.
A6712vms.1B0
Runs fine at FSB 100 (shows as XP 1250+) and FSB 133 (shows as XP 2200+) Booting to Win. XP-sp2 on CMOS, default setup other than minor tweaks to accommodate MSI Ti 4200 AGP 8X 125mb graphics card or Gilmond PCI card. But which couldn’t run FSB 166MHz .
No post at FSB 166 mhz (once, it did flash a post screen stating AMD Athlon XP 2800 for about 2 sec. before going blank) Manual power down. Just now I rebooted with FSB 166, and again saw the AMD Athlon XP 2800 at top of the post screen as I hit pause break,,,, then the machine power crashed to Off. Once it even loaded Win.XP-sp2 but crashed to power off with in 2 min.
I must have booted this beast a dozen times or more after Clear CMOS jumper each time it went to blank screen with mach. still running. Start over; set Default settings and work up with FSB 100, 133, each time to read what POST says and see if it will boot to O/S.
Btw: I have looked for clear evidence through the not so specific descriptions MSI uses to separate these board model #s and may be part of my current problem with correct board ID = correct BIOS ID.
Found here:
[VIA] unofficial FAQ for KT4 series motherboards
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=6090.0
Eg: - KT4 Ultra (MS-6590), 6-channel hardware audio codec
• KT4 Ultra (Pure Version)
• KT4 Ultra-B (Bluetooth ready)
• KT4 Ultra-BSR (Bluetooth ready + Serial ATA RAID)
• KT4 Ultra-FISR (Bluetooth ready, Serial ATA RAID, Gigabit LAN, IEEE 1394)
- KT4V (MS-6712), 6-channel software audio codec
• KT4V-L, with onboard 10/100 LAN
- KT4M (MS-6596) micro-ATX board
• KT4M-L, with onboard 10/100 LAN
- KT4A Ultra, (MS-6590) NEW!! based on KT400A chipset
• KT4A Ultra (Standard Version)
• KT4A Ultra-SR (Serial ATA RAID)
• KT4A Ultra-FISR (Serial ATA RAID, Gigabit LAN, IEEE 1394)
And a very similar version of this on Official MSI site. Both seem to try and make a difference between modles with on board Lan, and Blue Tooth ready.
Take a look at my original box sticker:
*As seen on face of MoBo: KT4V MS-6712 Ver:10A
*The Original Box bar code label: KT4V-L (601-6712-050)
K7, KT400. 5.1 chnl. S/W Audio, LAN, D-Bracket 2.
Yup, it says all this on the sticker and the in the manual and verified on the MoBo. So I can only guess at all parts of the puzzle as they gave them to me which lead me to the afore mention BIOS versions I ran, or am running. The sticker points to nearly half of the boards above except for the MS-6712 and the Ver:10a which is what I based my BIOS choices on. If someone knows differently and can lead me to official Nfo with a better answer I’m all ears.
Just saw this: Latest Official BIOS : KT4 MS-6590 (1.4), KT4V MS-6712 (1.8 ) , KT4M MS-6596 (1.1)>>Here: [VIA] unofficial FAQ for KT4 series motherboards
« on: 24 October 02, 05:14:04 » But these links and all but one link in this ‘sticky’ are broken .
So if (1.8) is the Latest Official BIOS for KT4V MS-6712 then what is this at the Official MSI SITE ?
KT4V
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
485KB
Version
1.C     Update date
Update Description   -Support Sempron L2 512K 3000+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Size
Version
1.B     Update date
2004-8-9
Update Description   Support Sempron 2200+/2300+/2400+/2500+/2600+/2800+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
485Kb Version
1.A     Update date
2004-5-13
Update Description   - System is unstable to run 3DMark03 with ATI 9600 PRO
- Add "PS/2 Keyboard Detection" Function.
- Support AMD 2400+ CPU.
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
514KB
Version
1.9     Update date
2003-7-29
Update Description   -Fixed Adaptec 2100S SCSI card cannot be used
-Modify CPU temperature detection
-Support boot from Onboard LAN
BIOS Type
AMI® BIOS     File Sizes
514KB
Version
1.8     Update date
2003-2-12
Update Description   -Support AMD Barton XP3000+ (FSB333) CPU
-Add "CPU Halt Command Detection" item in the BIOS Setup
Please also keep in mind I’m not trying to scuff anyone’s shoes…I just want to get what’s right for my board so that it and the CPU can live up to their full, "as advertised" potential and run with the other 3 big dogs under my desk.
This seems descriptive enough and rather lengthy. Just doing my homework and reporting my findings so I won’t include actual CMOS settings unless requested. I have notes on all settings I currently use to boot with this problem.
Other Dogs:
ASUS A7N8X-D running Athlon XP 3000 barton core 10 (runs fsb 400..whoknew?), Mem:2.5gb Super Talent
ASUS A7M266-D running Athlon XP 2800 (mp), Mem: 3gb Super Talent
Athlon XP 2800 (mp)
I don’t want to boar you with the details.
Yes, and the above have been upgraded w/new chips GFX cards and BIOS,,, NP.
Cut to sound track: Down on the BIOS again,,, wasn’t that Creedance Clear Water Revival?
Any suggestions or insights are much appreciated.

Welcome, and thank you for a thorough input! Hope I don't miss something you already said!
Quick version: Try setting processor voltage to 1,5 volt.
Long version:
Posting at wrong FSB can be put down to two things:
1 The processor isn't what you thought it is, but I think you eliminated that.
2 The system cannot run the processor at the correct speed. Mainly this has to with overheating, and/or that memory and processor cannot cooperate. This must be it, as you noticed the processor is correctly recognised.
You have little connected right? Then the best thing would be to pull power cable out. Take the motherboard and redo the seating of the processor, this is much better done with motherboard taken out.
At the same time, I suggest you clear CMOS. Should always be done when changing processor, and I've noticed on the Internet there are a few 1,5V XP2800 around.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Q4eIa6OhudcJ:forums.amd.com/lofiversion/index.php/t47487.html+AXDL2800DLV4D+problem&hl=sv&gl=se&ct=clnk&cd=1

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and like Xmad also pointed out id also recomend a Corsair or seatronic unit of 600W or more!
it doesn't matter how the power went out as any thing that pulls over the load a PSU can supply will fead back and cause damage to the PSU itself!
alot of PSU makers cannot be trusted much as they put lables on the psu that are no where neer the real units performance level as they use a bench version that have uprated VRM's and bigger heatsinks and high end refrigerated coolers to stop them overloading thats totally un-realistic!

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So i did a lot on firefox, remove flashplayer (or shockplayer) and vlc then reinstall them ---- download lots of things and etc. - now i'm able to record my video!!!!! But then i hit a "publish" button it's gone - didn't post at all (for replying or add video comment). :(
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please help I dont want a 450 dollar paper weight...

Hi there, i have a toshiba satellite C855D-s5303 with a similar problem. Once turned on it gives a similar beep code and displays nothing. the RAM module and the hard drive are both ok couse i tried them on a diffrent toshiba succesfully. If you figured out how to fix your toshiba may you please bother to offer some help.
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i am building my first computer and am having a few problems.I have installed the following components which were all purchased new
motherboard 845pemax
celeron D processor 320
300 watt power supply
256mb kingston ram
Nvidia Rivia TNT2 m64 agp 16mb video card
my problem is that my computer will not post
the monitor light goes green but says that it is in power saving mode
What should I do
It appears that keyboard does not work either.
Any help is appreciated
sarahjac

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/search/ser/SerConProRes.php?keyword=845pe&kind=1
I don't see any 845PE Max boards that show support for the Celeron D processors.

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