[AMD] K8N SLI --MS-7185

what settings in the bios do i change to overclock the cpu ,i'm running a AMD64 x2 3800+.
do i just change the CPU FSB frequency or do i have to change HT frequency and HT width as well
any help would be appreciated
thanks in advance

thx for the reply and thx for the good news

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MSI K8N SLI and AMD FX-60

Can someone please tell me if the AMD FX-60 CPU is compatible with the
MSI K8N SLI (MS-7185) version 1.0 motherboard?
If I upgraded to this processor would its performance be limited by
the speed of my memory. I have 2.5 Gb PC3200 Corsair RAM.
Many thanks!

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Yes I'm sure its back at 200MHz ie PC3200 but I don't know why the numbers are low. What else would you recommend that I use for benchmarking memory?
From the below statement I thought you meant you tried to run all 4 memory sticks at 200Mhz, I guess I misunderstood?
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However, I tried it with all four sticks and it also works in dual mode but only in 2T command rate. Although it went into 167 MHz memory frequency but I changed it to 200MHz to get PC3200 (400MHz).
Obviously from the sceenshot you have 2GB and 2 sticks and are at 1T, but what about 3GB. I thought you meant running all 4 sticks at 200Mhz from what you said. That is why I said the score is low. Sandra is pretty linear when it comes to the bandwidth test. If memory speed goes down from 200 to 167 that's about 17% reduction, add in 1-3% for 2T in Sandra, and you get very close to your 18% reduction in bandwidth for 3GB test. Since it sounded like you said you adjusted 3GB to 200Mhz then the score would be too low for the 3GB run, as it appears it is still 166 at 2T. If that's the case the score is pretty much right on the money.
BK's recommendations are good for other benchmarks, make sure to try real world apps though too.
Before you get into overclocking read some of the overclocking guide(like down in the overclocking modding section on the forum)

Power problem MS-7185-F / k8n SLI

Hi,
I got a problem with my power supply, i think...
Many times a day i got my system crashes, with a blue screen and error code "BAD_POOL_CALLER". It really pisses me off because my computer reboots several times a day without asking.
Apparently, my +12V power state is to low, when i check on PC Alert, it tells me that my +12V is actually about 2.1 !!!
My voltage is defined at Startup (about 1.35V)
Also, i tried BIOS update from internet (several times), and i don't know if it worked. When i boot i see the version is 1.6, but in Sandra i see 1.3.
Can someone help me figure out how to raise my +12V voltage, or help me get my system work well please?
My specs are:
MSI K8N-SLI (ms-7185)
Athlon X2 3800+ o/c @ 2300 Mhz (10x230)
1204Mo ram
WD Raptor 36GO
Seagate 200GO
WD 250GO
2xGigabyte Geforce 660LE 128Mo
Windows XP Home SP2

Quote from: Rickette on 17-May-06, 00:56:21
I have a ATHLON X2 3800+, 2*512Mo ram, 2*Geforce 6600LE, 1 optical drive and 3*HD.
What PSU should i take (in Watt), at least and what should i take to have my computer work well ?
Forget watt's they are a bogus figure.....
Personaly I would go for the OCZ Powerstream 520W if you plan to upgrade your system in the future.
Else I would go for the Enermax 465.
Both have 33A @ 12V single rail and have enough juice to power even the most heavy systems today.

[Resolved] No boot with K8N sli Platinum & AMD 64 X2 3800+

Hye,
I've received these new stuff last night (everything is good until here) :
- Antec Sonata II 450W
- MB MSI K8N SLI Platinum
- Proc. AMD 64 X2 3800+
- GC Sapphire X800 XL 256Mo
I've assembled all and turned it on... No bip... but all the fans are turning... and the screen says "No signal" and becomes black ( and me )
Can someone help me? Please?
On the MSI site, I also found this :
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
Maybe the proc. and the Motherboard are not compatible? Has someone already tried this combinaison (MB+Proc.)?
My Thanks in advance.

Quote from: darinn on 12-November-05, 03:22:08
I will ask the sellers if they can update the Mobo for me.
But with the last version of the bios, will the mobo accept the dual-core with this proc. AMD 64 X2 3800+?
And if it's not possible I'll change the mobo.
Thanks .................................. again.
Pretty much any SLI motherboard supports the X2 3800. MSI is just really pathetic sometimes. So, I had the Abit AN8 SLI before and their latest BIOS (17) supports all X2 CPUs. But Im sure most other brands support them too.

Does the K8N SLI Platinum support the AMD 64 FX-60?

Does the K8N SLI Platinum support the new AMD 64 FX-60 cpu?
and if not it will with a bios update?
...also same question goes for the FX-57 cpu
Best Regards,
Manolis aka Markoul

Yes
<K8N SLI Platinum CPU Support>

Raid 10 ms 7185 v2 K8N SLI H ?

The mother board supports RAID 0 or 1, 0+1, JBOD.
I want to use raid 10 .
Does anyone know how to if possible (new bios) ?

check the specs http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8N-SLI-FI--F.html#/?div=Detail

PLEASE HELP! Restarting issue with K8N SLI. need bios help???

Hi people,
I would really appreciate some help this this problem im having. It’s a bit long winded but ill try to keep it short.
My pcs spec is as follows –
MSI K8N SLI (model MS-7185) motherboard
AMD Athlon X2 64bit 4200+ cpu
4 x 512mb ram
Running with a Radeon X700 256mb graphics card.
Ever since I purchased the machine ive been having problems with the pc loading up XP (or any OS for that matter!). Sometimes it would freeze on the loading screen and sometimes it would freeze on the black screen just after the loading screen. Sometimes while running windows perfectly normally, a blue screen with writing describing the error came up and then the system restarted, however, I would only ever manage to read the title of the blue screen as the pc restarted so quickly. I remember seeing the word hardware though, so I guessed it was a serious hardware issue. I lived with this for a few months thinking it might be something im doing that’s making it be so unreliable, such as a software issue, but I recently went on a mission to sort it out. The BIOS of the motherboard was password protected and I wasn’t aware of this until I had lost contact with who I had bought the system off, so I decided to restart the motherboard’s settings by pressing the reset button on the board itself. Next time I booted it up it told me that the defaults were restored etc and continued to boot windows, however now I can hardly get windows to start at all, the system restarts on the loading screen 8 times out of 10, and if it does boot up fully then it doesn’t last long before crashing on me. I messed about with a few of the BIOS settings, but to be honest I have no experience with working with these settings, its all very new to me. I have an idea that it could be the processor or the graphics card causing the problem, just an inkling though!
If anyone can help me I would appreciate it greatly. Thank you. Adam
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Quote from: Grayone on 23-December-06, 06:36:43
Can you furnish us some additional info on the 4 sticks of memory that you have? Also on the power supply? There is a label on the side of it that lists the manufacturer of the power supply and the amperage output for the 12volt power rail.
Thanks for your reply. here is some more info:
4 x Kingston 512mb model no - KVR400X64 C34
The power supply is a Sweex Advanced Gold 650W [BA000110]. max currennt on 12v rail is 25A
Hope this helps. Thanks again for your reply.

Can't open BIOs Set-up, K8N SLI Platinum, after re-flash

I used the USB Bio flash tool from the forum to re-flash the BIOs on my K8N SLI Platinum board to the latest BIOS from the MSI site, specs below.
After the re-flash, which seemed to go okay, I cleared the CMOS (turned off and unplugged computer, pushed the clear cmos button for about a minute), and re-booted.
I get a checksum error, no floppy found. I don't have a floppy drive in any case. But then I am unable to enter the bios. Pushing delete at boot gets me a screen that's blank, save for a cursor in the upper left corner. I can't enter anything from there, ESC key doesn't do anything. So I have to reboot.
I can get to the POST screen and pressing F1 allows the system to start and get to Windows, which seems to run okay. System shows that the new BIOS is installed. I just can't get into it to re-set to default settings.
If I turn off the computer, I get the checksum error again and in Windows clock and date have to be reset. But if I just reboot I just have to go through the no floppy found, then push f1 to get back to windows which has retained settings.
I tried doing the flash procedure again and got same result. I haven't tried flashing back to the old BIOs yet. MSI's site only lists the most recent BIOs, my preference would be to try a different one, but not as old as the 2005 version that was on there.
Hopefully someone can tell me something obvious that I'm missing here.
Rick
Windows XP Professionnel
Version   5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Nu 2600
Motherboard K8N SLI Platinum, with Nvidia nForce 4 SLI chipset
Model   MS-7100
Typ   X86-based PC
AMD 64 3500+ ~2211 Mhz
BIOS/Date   Phoenix Technologies, LTD V 3.12, 10/27/2008
Version SMBIOS   2.3
4,096.00 Mo RAM

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I'd also like the RAM to run at at least 333, rather than the 200 something it runs at with this BIOS.
Check this with CPU-Z at "memory tab" ==> http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
BIOS post screen info can be incorrect., or current older BIOS by 200MHz it may means 400DDR In all cases its cosmetics,
the way of showing real of effective freq. can be changed in future version.
Also with four sticks it should be shown as either 333 or 166, not 200 or 400
Best check with CPU-Z how they are running
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It may now be possible to put something faster in there, but I don't know that for sure. But the 4000+ should improve performance a bit.
Such old CPU's can't be found easy in present days, also its not good investing to invest in old stuffs.
You want W7 and such, changing to the best CPU wont improve much the performance in overall..
Soon or later you have to change it, then this and eventually "newest" CPU which you gonna get will became useless.

SATA II Drive on K8N - SLI Mobo

Hello Folks,
Please can you give a few words of wisdom on the following topic:
I've recently upgraded to the K8N - SLI mobo with AMD 64 3200 CPU, 1GB ram and a Hitachi 250gb SATA II drive.
I booted from the WinXP disc, selected F6 to install additional raid drivers, accepted, and proceeded to install XP which works fine. The system boots ok but the BIOS (flashed using MS Live Update to version 2) shows the drive as 5th IDE master, and then WinXP "system, device manager" shows the drive as Primary ATA.
Is that right? It works but how do i know it has detected it up right?
I've disconnected my original 2 hard drives from IDE1 for simplicity, and the 2 optical drives load fine on the IDE2 cable. My RAID drivers come from the Nvidia site since i didn't get a diskette with the OEM drive.
Did i need to install the drivers from a floppy (i have an MSI CD)?
When asked for 2 separate drivers which should come first, the RAID driver or the STORAGE CONTROLLER?
Is everything normal? Should the drive be called SATA type somewhere?
Many thanks for your help.
mick

Thanks for the reply there Petrol. I thought the raid drivers were the name for the SATA drivers i.e. one and the same thing, so although I will not use RAID, I think i need still need the RAID/SATA driver?
I thought I had just cracked it- a short time after providing the extra 2 RAID drivers during the boot, WinXP asked me again for the RAID driver (which i read elsewhere was a good sign!).
It appeared to boot faster or was it just my imagination hoping for a result?Then once the WinXP desktop had come on, it appeared to load some more drivers.
Still when i look in "System....Device manager" the driver is from Windows from 2001 so can't be up to date?
Has it managed to write over the top of the newer SATA drivers during the final part of the install (if so how to turn it off?)?
thanks again
mick

K8N-SLI Platinum strange behaviour

Hi there
Apart from the northbridge making a weird noise sometimes when the motherboard is on it's side (i.e. tower case standing upright), the motherboard started behaving strangely on saturday
first the computer refused to find my network, always assigning a local ip, so i tried rebooting the router a few times, and then checked my other computer which is connected to the router fine
then i tried to play a game and noticed the sound had gone, and then the game kept quitting barely after i started it so i gave that up
then, after i had to move the mouse between this one and another computer, the usb ports (all of them, no matter whether through pci card or on motherboard, the mouse stopped working
throughout all of this i rebooted many times.
i finally gave up in the evening, and the next morning on a whim i turned the computer on and everything was fine, what's going on?!?! is this linked to the northbridge at all? i've monitored all the fans and temps and all are normal and running constantly ( cpu never above 40c)
is the motherboard losing it, or maybe the power supply (all voltages seem normal too...)
my spec
Amd 64 3000+ venice
MSI K8N-SLI Platinum
2x512mb Geil Ram
1xSata 250gig western digital hard disk drive
1x Xfx 6600GT 256mb
480w Tagen power supply (can't remember which off had, not the 2force one, the other cheap one, it's modular tho)
i was going to take the motherboard back, but now it's working fine i'm sure they wont accept it
please help
thank you in advance
Reaps

Possible suggestions are as follows: Although the manual states that your power supply should be 450w or above i think that with your PSU your fairly border line. Remember that your psu will only draw the power that it requires and as soon as you start putting 256 Mb graphics cards and upgrading to more ram it is using even more resources and can cause your system to have all sorts of dramas and Re-boots.With your network connection problems this could be due to either network problems in your area which BT or your telephone provider can help you with or as i have recently found out.. too many net work connections that may conflict with each other.Go to your controll panel,Network and internet connections then network connections you should have your broadband or dial up connection listed. If you have more than one connection listed and for instance you dont use LAN (local area connection) Networking then you will have to uninstall this connection and disable all Lan options from the Bios i.e nVidia Mac LAN, nVidia Mac LAN ROM, Marvell Gigabit LAN, Marvell Gibyte rom.A possible other prob may be to disable your IEEE 1394 connection from the bios as i had similar problems to yours but am now okay. I am not saying any of these are related directly to your problems however they are possibilities which you may like to try. Please note also that your USB problems can be solved by using the latest Bios update (which i personally have never had any problems with) but may be risky if you have no idea how to flash your bios. My advice on this would be to read the moderators (Bas..i think) instructions as to how to do this or as he suggests unistall all your motherboards usb drivers that were installed from the disk provided by your Motherboard Manafacturer, Re-boot and let windows re-install its own USB drivers which certainly worked for me.
Q-TEC 650W PSU
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ CPU
MSI K8N SLI Platinum N-Force4 MOB
2x 512Mb Hynix DDR 400 RAM Modules(Single)
Gainforce GeForce 7800 GT
Samsung 120 GB SATA

MSI K8N SLI

Build a new system with K8N SLI motherboard, AMD 64 3200+, Chill Innovation 510W PSU with 20 pin - tried with a 20-24 pin converter - no difference.
My problem is that when i use a PCIe GFX card the system freezes randomly, tried 2 different cards. An Asus X600XT Extreme and Leadtek 6600GT Extreme, but problem is the same. I have an old PCI Radeon 7000 GFX and with this, the computer runs perfect.
Both CPU and motherboard has been changed to a new one - didn't help.
Have installed newest graphic driver and Nforce driver. Tried both 3.0 and 3.1 motherboard bios. Changed HTT to 800, PCIe to 90 (clock generator).
Can it really be my PSU which causes the problem?
HELP!!
TiM :(

Hi there,
I will find out the automatic timings its reading. I went on to the corsair site, and for my memory, they had completly differnt timings. If I where to set the proper timings, how would I go about it? I have no knowlodge in that area.
Cheers

MSI K8N SLI Freezes when using PCIe GFX

Build a new system with K8N SLI motherboard, AMD 64 3200+, Chill Innovation 510W PSU with 20 pin - tried with a 20-24 pin converter - no difference.
My problem is that when i use a PCIe GFX card the system freezes randomly, tried 2 different cards. An Asus X600XT Extreme and Leadtek 6600GT Extreme, but problem is the same. I have an old PCI Radeon 7000 GFX and with this, the computer runs perfect.
Both CPU and motherboard has been changed to a new one - didn't help.
Have installed newest graphic driver and Nforce driver. Tried both 3.0 and 3.1 motherboard bios. Changed HTT to 800, PCIe to 90 (clock generator).
Can it really be my PSU which causes the problem?
HELP!!
TiM :(

Sorry of course, here it's
My system:
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI K8N SLI (tried both bios 3.0 and 3.1)
2*512 Elixir PC3200 3-3-3-8 running at 166 mhz right now.
Chill Innovation 510W (20 pin connector, specs : http://www.chill-innovation.com/cp510A-output.asp)
160 GB Seagate Baracuda
Creative Audigy 2
Pioneer 108 + 109 dvd burner
Leadtek 6600GT Extreme PCIe or Asus X600XT Extreme PCIe
Saphire Radeon 7000 PCI

MSI K8N SLI - Freezes Randomly - Need Help!!!

Hi,
Can anybody help me? My PC keeps freezing and sometimes BSOD'ing on me and i have no idea what the hell the reason is. I've tried changing graphics drivers, sound drivers, checked for bios updates and all the usual stuff. I've had a scou around the net and these forums and quite a few people seem to be having this problem and appears to be related to the PCIe Graphics. Not sure if this is the case but a lot of peole report this. One person said it was his audigy card and on removing it the problem went away. But, I don't fancy sacrificing my audigy card for the onchip sound if I can find a work around.
Is it the motherboard at fault with the PCIe interface or the Audigy or something else? If anyone has any ideas it would be fantastic!
AMD Athlon64 3000+
MSI K8N SLI OEM
Corsair DDR400 Dual Channel Value RAM
Leadtek GeForce 6800GT
Audigy 2 ZS
Samsung 40BG SATA HD
DVD-ROM
CD-R/RW
Jeantech 500W PSU

Hello !!
Try this NEW Forceware Drivers 81.85 they fix many issues with SLI systems.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_81.85.html
Don´t forget to deinstall your existing drivers correctly before installing the new ones.
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

MSI k8N SLI Platinum - dead??

Hello,
I have started the PC as per usual. Pushed the power button... nothing. Then again... nothing. Then I swithed off from the switch near the mains entry. and switched on... PC started however I get nothing on the screen. No beeps.
I have an Antec Truecontrol 2.0 power supply, an MSI K8N SLI Platinum (socket 939) with AMD Athlon, 2 GB Corsair TWINX Ram, three HDDS SATA, Raptor 75GB as Primary (C:) and another two WDS. Video Card: BFG 7800GTX+ 256MB OC, PCI - Express.
System has functioned Ok for three and a half years at least. I have replaced the Northbridge Fan from the beginning with a Blue heatsink - I believe Zalman. No temp issues. No overclocking, I am not using any commander modes etc etc.
When I look at the D-Bracket I get Memory Init Error (RED-GReen-Red-Red). I am pretty sure it is not the RAM. I pulled the RAM, used only one stick... same error.
I pulled the video card out. Then interestingly the system reaches the phase just before booting and the D_Bracket shows Floppy Init error (Green-Red-Green-Green). I tried moving the video card to the second PCI -ex - I also reach the Floppy Error point. I put in a crappy PIC-Ex video card - I reach the same Floppy init point - the floppy actually seeks but does not try to read. Unfort I forgot where I put the Monitor adapter thingy so I can;t check if I get anything on the screen with the crappy PCI-Ex video card. Will get it... soon...
I have a hard time determining whether it is the Video card or the mainboard. I have pulled the battery out, left overnight, pushed the BIOS reset... nothing helped. With Video Card in PCI-Ex slot 1, I get the memory init error. With the card in PCI-Ex slot 2 or with no card or with crappy PCI-Ex, I get to the Floppy Init point.
Could it be that at that point I would be getting a VGA error that I cannot see on the screen ? Why then NO BEEPS? Does this Mobo model not beep, just uses the D-Bracket?
It is important - if it is the mobo I am done for, I have to buy Mobo, RAM, CPU... $1,000. If it is the Video card I may find something 1 slot wide and similar to the BFG ...
Can anyone help narrow this please ?
BTW on the screen I get NOTHING, if I pull out the cable the monitor says - check connection, if I plug it in the monitor goes to power saving.
Thank you Heaps

Quote from: Bas on 19-January-09, 00:17:28
Put a stick of memory in there of el-cheapo brand.
Those Corsairs you have need more voltage to start if I'm not mistaken.
Found out what the prob was - the BFG 7800GTX was DEAD. RMA-ed the card. the MSI Mobo is Ok

So, is a -5V pin supply still required for MSI K8N SLI Platinum or not ???

I am looking to buy a new custom made computer. I want the MSI K8N SLI Platinum motherboard for it. The problem is that the non-USA page claims that it requires the -5V pin supply. I have read many threads on this same topic, but havent found a definitve answer.
Is the -5V rail still needed or not ???
I read somewhere that USA models dont require it, as its not mentioned on the USA site. Well my one will most probably be from Taiwan.....
Is there a check, through which I can confirm whether the motherboard my local hardware store is selling, requires a -5V pin supply or not???
lastly, is that a specific model number, from which onwards, the requirement is no longer needed ????
thanx in advance

I agree with SAB only because mine has been rock solid for quite some time. If I could afford it, I would have purchased SAB's PC Power & Cooling 510 model.
The only other model that seems to have the -5v rail are the OCZ psu. However, I have noticed a lot of users with tagan's and have yet to see someone complain about this psu. Im running the 12v rail as a single rail at 30a...you can experiment with the dual rails and it will adjust to the need of your mobo up to 20a on each rail but then the other rail gets only 10a (at least I think thats how it works).
The tagan 480w u22 was built for the future:
1. has a 20/24 pin main power connector - shielded
2. a 4/8 pin cpu power connector - shielded
3. 2 - 6pin vga connectors - shielded
4. 4 - sata hdd connectors
5. Whisper quiet - you just dont hear it
6. 12v rail at 30a - peak load at startup to 35a for 60 seconds
7. 70% to 73% efficiency rating
Is it enough juice? It seems to me that the manufacturers have realized that pretty soon we will have to purchase $500 psu's just to keep up. So IMO, the manufacturers seem to be getting the point. The new 90nm AMD chips take less power than the 130nm chips...and the new 7800gt video cards take up less power than the 6800gt video cards. In the future, AMD will be coming out with a 65nm chip, which will need even less power.
So I think Im right at the sweet spot with the 12v@30a and its also flexible enough to switch to a dual rail system if I need that feature in the future. Tagan does make a 530w and 580w psu too, but they are not as quiet and you only get 2 more amps on the 12v rail as you go up the line. Just my 2 cents.

[AMD] K8N SLI --MS-7185

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