AME rendering outdated AE content

It appears that AME CC (7.1.0.174) will render dynamic-link content in whatever state it was in when it was opened. Example:
I have a Premiere project that has a text card that is dynamically linked from AE. If I open AME, then hide the text in the AE project and save it and render out the sequence from Premiere the text will render (even though its now hidden). So even though the text is hidden in AE and in the Premiere project, it will still appear in the final render when exported from Premiere to AME.
So the only current work around I've found is that if you make a change in an dynamic linked project, you always have to restart AME to have the changes take effect in the final output.
Is there a solution where AME isn't 'caching' this content?

The AME will not use the GPU's Ray-traced rendering. You have two options, render to a production format to create a DI (digital Intermediate, my preferred method) then compress for delivery using AME or open your AE preferences and choose "Show Deprecated Formats in Output Module Settings" from the Output section of preferences, then render and live with single pass compression. It's better than it used to be but AME will give you a superior product for delivery.

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Jay

Dennis,
Thanks for your advice. I've deleted the cache files, rendered everything in the work area and exported a couple of versions. The problem isn't resolved, but at least we have some more information to troubleshoot.
The timeline is built at 1024x768 30fps (primary output is digital projector). If I export the clip at 1280x720 the blue doesn't crop up. When I export at native size 1024x768, or half resolution 512x384, the blue appears.
Opening it in QuickTime 7 doesn't help any. I can see the blue clip in QTX, QT7, AME's preview window and in a H.264 version exported from Sorenson Squeeze 6.5.
In PPCS4, I had a similar problem with certain clips if Maximum Render Quality was checked. It doesn't seem to have a bearing on this clip as I get the blue shift with and without Maximum Render Quality Checked.
What's really puzzling to me is that the four transition segments (three of which render correctly) are generated from the same AE comp. I simply turn on and off the necessary layers and render the segment I need. If it was a problem with the AE comp or project, I would think the problem would occur consistently between all four clips.
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I have searched high and low but cant figure this out:
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No, but that does seem to be a good indicator. When the preview (AME) is bad, the rendered video comes out bad. When it is good, the video comes out good. I just rendered this. The preview showed about 1 second of good quality and then the busted look (with linked AE only, video was good). This is a 1280 x 720 png in AE with no animation or effects.
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This seems to have just begun recently (within the past month) where AME CC 2014 is only using 1 core (out of 12) to render video. No, this is not the CPU Parking issue - I have made the regedit tweaks and also changed my Power option to Performance, all with no difference in AME. Premiere Pro CC 2014 renders the same video just fine using all 12 cores, so it seems this problem lies not with Windows software, nor Premiere Pro, but just AME CC 2014. Was there a recent AME update that might have included this bug?
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Only one of my eight cores was running during encoding in Premiere Pro CC 2014.
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Read Below:
I did a search and found this link below.
Go to this link below and read.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1506298
After you have read the Adobe Forum link above, go to this link below.
This registry change is for Windows 7, I'm not sure about Windows 8
The registry link may be different but you can still look.
Than call Adobe and have their tech go to this link below.
Than have them suggest what to do.
I did call Adobe back and told them it fixed my problem and they were appreciative and said they would pass it on to all their techs.
http://ultimatecomputers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3644
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Hi folks,
we updated to CC 2014.2 last week and are now stuck without fields - and as a broadcaster broadcasting 1080i we desperately need interlaced files!
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For a quick demonstation I created a simple AE project (CS6) with a blue bar rotating around the center.
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I just ran a test and here's what I found.
Rendering from CC 2014 using the Render Cue and separating fields in the Project Panel gives you an interlaced file. Rendering from the AME and using h.264 you do not get an interlaced result even if you check the separate fields box. I I also tried Jpeg2000 quicktime from AME with the same result... no progressive render. I even tried doubling the frame rate in the AME, again no progressive render. The only way to get a progressive render in the latest build of the AME is by setting the comp frame rate in AE to double the standard frame rate. In your example 50 fps.
Here's how I test for interlacing.
If the footage is interlaced then there will be different positions for your blue bar for each frame if you drag your progressive footage into the new comp window, verify that the comp is the same frame rate as the footage (25 fps in your example) and that AE is properly interpreting the footage, then double the comp frame rate. if you step through the comp one frame at a time and each frame is different then you have interlaced footage but it is interlaced without the empty scan lines. After Effects has tried to fill in these scan lines as long as I can remember.
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Dear Premiere Pro experts
I created a movie with Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 and I have serious performance issues when it comes to export the movie.
The first 10% renders pretty fast and takes 1 hour. Then it takes for every additional 1% about 4 hours! (never rendered it to finish so far, 14% max so far)
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Length: 24 minutes in total, splitted into several sequences (up to 4 minutes) and arranged on a "main-sequence"
Input: Cineform AVI files, 1080p, 59fps (I converted GoPro 3+ footage (3D!) using GoPro Studio to the Cineform format for further processing)
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Then I tried to render using AME using the same settings. The whole video rendered in about 14 hours what is acceptable in my case. There problem here is that the 3D gets lost, even if I selected "Render 3D Intermediate". The picture for the left eye is the same as the one for the right eye. This is not happening when I do a direct export. But the direct export get almost stuck at around 10%.
There is almost no difference in choosing Software-Rendering and GPU. Also, the GPU has almost no load. Premiere Pro uses the CPU for about 45% (total usage 65%) and takes up 5-9 GB of memory (total usage 65%). Disk usage at around 14b/s.
I think there are two problems. One is that AME renders differently (no 3D) and the other is that the direct export takes way too long.
Can someone help me with any of these problems?
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I did some additional research and found out, that the slow rendering happens with this combination:
- Auto-Color using Temporal Smoothing
- Render 3D Intermediate
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