AMI BIOS 2.2 Memory Settings

Maybe it's just me, but I can't get the memory settings in the AMI BIOS 2.2 (MSI K8T-Neo FIS2R) to do anything. Changes make no difference and the memory just runs at its SPD information every time (I'm using sandra to make this determination). I've run memtest 86+ on this memory at lower settings (3-3-3-6-1T) with no problems. In addition, A64 tweaker shows memory values as reserved values, so I can't tweak with it either.
The system is perfectly stable (it should be, given that it's running at the most conservative settings possible).
RAM is in slots 1&2 so it's not a DDR333/DDR400 1T/2T Athlon64 limitation. I have an Abit Kv8-max3 that runs this memory fine at 2.5-3-3-6-1T. (Hate to say it, but Phoenix's award core is MUCH more feature rich than these AMI BIOSes)
I didn't have this problem with the previous BIOS, but I'm a believer in running the latest, greatest BIOS. This statement is based on the 7 years I spent in x86 BIOS development at Compaq and Dell (while sempron D0 fix is all that's listed, I'd bet there's other subtle bugs resolved in the latest BIOS). Push comes to shove and I'll just reflash the 2.1 or 2.0 BIOS, but I can't imagine that MSI would have just broken this in a recent BIOS release.

There are a lot or reports on this Bios being broken. Just do a search for 2.2 Bios and see what is up.

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I did that about the same time you posted dude, thks.
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If you are getting four red leds on the dled bracket and the board is making no attempt to post there is little chance that you will be able to recover the bios if you were using a version prior to 1.3. The emergency bios recovery procedure is detailed here:- http://www.msi.com.tw/html/support/bios/note/boot.htm or you can try tapping the F10 key followed by "Y" on the keyboard to see if you can trigger the bios flash recovery procedure that way. It did not work for me. Good luck. Post back with your results.
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