Analog to Digital conversion of hi8 tapes

I have many hi8 video tapes that I have been trying to digitize so that I can import them into my imac. I have connected my analog hi8 camera to a Sony DSC-PC350 mini dv camcorder that has an analog to digital converter (pass through). In the VTR mode I can view my movies on the Sony camcorder. However, when I connect the Sony to the iMac with a firewire, I get a 'no tape' message on my iMovie screen. At the same time the video screen on the Sony camcorder goes blank. Can someone help me with this problem? Or is it possible that you cannot import a conversion on iMovie '09?

Hi again ftts (having a little trouble pronouncing that)
I went to the Sony web site and simply downloaded the operator's manual for that camcorder...
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=DCRPC350
I also compared it to the manual of my TVR-330 which is a Digital8 camcorder and does have the pass through functionality. I did that to find the wording they use when talking about pass through (Sony never calls it "pass through"). All indications of the manual for your camcorder indicate you can input an analog signal and record it to digital tape. But nothing indicates you can use the camcorder as an A2D pass through device like you can with my Digital8 model.
So you will have to go through the two step process of first recording onto the MiniDV with tape. Then secondly importing it to the Mac. If you want to use that one.
For the DCR-TRV22 ...
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=DCRTRV22
it looks like that one WILL do the pass through function (see page 173 of the manual). So if you want to skip the tape part then use the TRV22 camcorder instead.
Cheers,
Patrick

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I have a load of Hi8 tapes requiring analog to digital conversion.
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In my job I have encountered many problems because of this. Also, Mini DV tapes should only ever be used for one recording. They are very fragile and prone to slight stretch and many drop outs. They are not to be considered for archive purposes or data backup.
Digital-8 on the other hand copes well with old Hi-8 tapes I had long ago consigned to the no good pile. The transports are very stable, being based on proven video-8 technology, and the heads seem to last for ever!
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Note also that some mini DV camcorders do not have an analogue recording capability, even if they have DV in enabled.
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Date/Time: 2008-03-05 15:19:01.258 -0500
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Recommendations for Analog to Digital conversion

I am seeking the help of all the Pros out there. I am moving my extensive analog music collection (LP/Cassette) to the digital world. Are there any recommendations for creating a CD-quality sound/volume level. I am currently using the standards (click/pop/hiss reduction, compressor and/or hard limiting). I am recording at 44.1/16 Bit and saving files in mp3 PRO-320 kbps for sake of storage. I welcome any assistance in regard to Plug-ins, equalization or other suggestions.
Thank you in advance
Paddy 41
Pentium 4/3.2 GHz, 2.0 MB Ram, Soundblaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Windows XP PRO SP3, Adobe Audition 3.0, Sony PS-LX250H Turntable, Denon DRM-600 Cassette.

>I am recording at 44.1/16 Bit and saving files in mp3 PRO-320 kbps for sake of storage. I welcome any assistance in regard to Plug-ins, equalization or other suggestions.
You shouldn't save files as MP3s until all the processing you want to do has been done - this is a lossy format, and every time you open a file saved like this it gets re-decoded, and then re-encoded when you do a save. And the quality degeneration is progressive. And unfortunately, recording your files as 16-bit is also not going to be quite the thing to do if you are going to do any sort of amplitude processing at all, either, especially if you are recording at a lower-than-optimum amplitude, which is usually the case. 44.1k is fine, though!
So, to get over the potential problems, the thing to do is to digitise your files as 44.1k 32-bit floating point, and until all processing is done, store them as Windows PCM wav files in this format, because that is uncompressed, which is what you need.
If you want to reduce noise on cassette recordings, it's worth using a fairly high FFT setting, even though it takes longer to do the processing. Since most of the noise is not LF, this tends to work better, although there is also a case for doing the NR twice, once with a lower FFT setting and once with a higher one, but not trying to take out too much in one go.
As for click reduction - well, you have to experiment. But letting the software determine all of the levels tends to give you a pretty good starting point. Another trick that's sometimes worth it is to transform your files temporarily to M-S stereo instead of L-R, and treat each channel separately - you generally get different levels of clicks in each, usually more in the S signal, whilst the M cancels out quite a few. And in general, the less clicks you can get away with processing, the better.
Hard limiting? Never used it on a conversion like that at all, and wouldn't even consider it - transients are already likely to be distorted, and hard limiting them further seems like a
very strange thing to do...
Other tools that are useful, especially on cassettes are iZotope's Ozone (some of which is already in Audition) and HarBal. You can restore usually distorted frequency responses with the latter, and get a good average value automatically and easily. And judicious use of Ozone's enhancer can make them seem a lot less like the results came from a cassette...
One of the useful things you can do with Ozone is to selectively widen parts of the spectrum. Since most records of music tend (for reasons of tracking) to have had the bass forced to be virtually mono, with subsequent similar consequences for other instruments with substantial LF content, it's worth expanding just about everything under about 250Hz, possibly by more than you might think.
Generally, 'normal' EQ doesn't have a lot of use when processing vinyl, if it's relatively recent. And that generally means anything from the 60's onwards. If you think things are seriously wrong, the chances are that it's your monitors and environment that are misleading you. Just bear in mind that when this stuff was produced, it was all monitored in a professional environment - more so than it might be today, even.
No doubt there will be a few other responses - I don't think that the foregoing is anything like complete, but is at least a start.

Analog to digital conversion

HELLO AND GOOD MORNING,
I HAVE A TEAC 4010 GSL REEL TO REEL TAPE DECK.
I WANT TO IMPORT THIS DATA TO MY IPOD CLASSIC.
I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP IN THIS AREA.
I USE AN ADAPTEC CARD TO CHANGE MY VCR'S TO CD'S AND THAT
WORKS VERY WELL.
DOES ANY ONE HAVE KNOWLEDGE AS TO HOW I CAN GET ANALOG RECORDINGS TO
MP4-ACC FILE FORMATS EFFICIENTLY.
BEST REGARDS,
TRIPLE EAGLE AND YES I AM A GOLFER,
THANK YOU

I hope you don't shout like that on the course.
Anyway Audacity is what you need.
tt2

Analog-to-Digital Conversion Hardware

I have a G5 running 10.4.4. I want to take some of my old vhs tapes and convert them to digital so I can save to DVD. Any ideas on what is compatable?
Pinnacle "Dazzle" Says it's all PC only. Canopus has no mention of it supporting Mac. I don't need an professional item, just something that will sync sound with video.

The Canopus products are a great choice.
I've been using the ADVC 100 for a few years and it has perform very well. Works directly with iMovie, Final Cut Express or Final Cut Pro.
One thing to consider, if your VHS tapes are old or were not well recorded, you may need a TBC (Time Base Corrector) to allow the tapes to be read and converted correctly. TBC's remove the jitter that is common with some VHS tapes, and which can cause problems when being converted to DV format. If you need a TBC, they can be purchased as separate units, can be purchased as part of a VHS player (JVC makes a few), or can be purchased as part of the DV converters (the Canopus ADVC 300 includes TBC).
Good luck.
Tom N.

Analog to Digital (ie VHS to DVD)

As much as I love the internet I think I've overloaded myself with information, lol.
I have some home movies on VHS that I would like to transfer to DVD and have them be compatible with tweaking in iDVD or iMovie (I'm totally new to Mac BTW, I've only had my Macbook Pro for a little over a month).
I know I need to buy a VCR.... this is where my confusion comes in ... should I just buy a VCR/DVD combo (I'm looking at an LG RC797T for $250 @ Best Buy) and record the VHS tapes to a DVD on the machine? Will that video on the newly burned DVD now be digital video that will be importable and editable (are those words?) on my MBP with iDVD and/or iMovie?
Or, do I need to go w/some sort of analog to digital converter? I was looking at purchasing either a Canon Elura 100 Mini-DV or Canon ZR700 Mini-DV camcorder since they do analog to digital conversion (would have to go from VCR, out via S-Video into the Camcorder and then out of the Camcorder via Firewire into the Mac (actually an external HDD will be necessary so I don't suck up all my space).
I'm not a guru when it comes to file compression and rendering and video formats and all that happy stuff - I'd like a simple method that works well and produces a decent quality DVD.
I think if I can do it w/just the VHS/DVD machine that'll be the route I take (it'll be least expensive). If I have to buy a camcorder along w/a VHS machine then that's adding $$ to the project and I still need to buy an external HDD - scouring good sales for that info.
Thank you a million times over in advance, I've researched and read and dug and shopped my brains out for the past week and it seems like there is no simple solution.
B's Fan

Just a question.....if you have all these old VHS home movies, don't you already have a VCR? What have you been playing them on all these years?
I agree w/ Sue and Kirk. If you want to edit these old movies, you need to digitize the footage onto DV format.
I just connected my camcorder to my VCR (It is the VCR/TV combo unit and worked fine for this) and recorded the raw VHS footage onto DV tapes. Yes, there were a lot....I think I have about 150 DV tapes (one hour each).
I have been slowly importing them into my iMovies as I create them. I put my still photos and videos in chronologic order, so I import about one or two tapes per movie. Usually the 60min tape gets edited down quite a bit before I am finished. You know, you have plenty of bad shots, blurry images, terrific movies of the floor, ceiling, your hand, etc that can be cropped out.
If you really don't need to edit your movies, and just want them preserved as DVDs, I know that the Sony VHS/DVD combo unit works great. My brother copied some of his old Muhammed Ali fight tapes that he had recorded from tv. He didn't need to edit, just was afraid that the VHS tapes were degrading.
However, I recommended to him that he do the same as I, and get the footage on DV tapes to preserve them. I am sure that DVDs are not going to be the technology of the future. They can become broken, melted, scratched, etc. I save all my edited movies on DVDs and on more DV tapes. I (almost)always export my finished movies back to my camcorder after I have made my DVD.
The DV tapes are small, can be easily stored in a cool dry environment, and your memories are not lost.
Because VHS tapes are not great quality to begin with, you could (and I have done this also) copy the finished DVD to your camcorder by connecting them and recording from the DVD. Supposedly there is a quality loss, but you will not notice because the digital version of your movies will be so much better than the original. I have occasionally had to do it this way when I deleted my iMovie after making my DVD, but forgot to export it back to the camera.

Suggestions for acquiring Hi8 tapes?

Hi All,
My Hi8 camera forgotten in a drawer for too long passed away when I tried to power it on. I wish I could acquire my tapes on the Mac, something it could not do anyway. I think I could have plugged it into the DVD recorder that plays on my TV, but having now to buy again, I have seen some Digital8 cameras for sale. They came out in the analog to digital transition period and are said to output digital from a Hi8 tape. Would you agree that this would be a sound choice for my transfers?
Thanks, and a happy new year!

I've just checked my TRV950. Digital pass-through works fine ..with iMovie '08.
With the previous iMovie HD 6 the camcorder/FireWire link needed a bit of a "kick" to get iMHD6 to accept the incoming video, as iMHD6 showed onscreen "Camera No Tape".
To set the camera to pass-through, turn the camcorder's main thumb-switch to the 'VCR' setting. Then in the camera's menus, select the second item down (shown by a 'V' in the viewfinder/monitor window) and choose 'A/V>DV OUT' and set that to 'ON'.
Now whatever analogue signal comes in - via the yellow-ringed 'AUDIO/VIDEO' analogue-in socket, just to the left of the headphone socket, in the 'socket bay' at the front of the camera's right-hand side - will simultaneously travel out via the digital FireWire cable.
Surprisingly, iM'08 very happily accepts this, whereas iMHD6 quibbles about what's happening: it expects a tape to be playing in the camcorder, and doesn't - at first - latch onto the pass-through signal instead.
So the way to do it in iMHD6 is, after all - despite my previous message! - to put a tape in the TRV950 and play that back, while the incoming analogue cable is also connected to the camera, and the external analogue source is playing.
Click on "Import" in iMovie HD 6, and iMHD6 will start the tape rolling in the camera, and will start importing from the tape. Then press the Stop button on the side of the camera, and the tape's video will stop showing, but the incoming video from the external analogue source should then appear in iMovie instead. Just click on "Import" again to start importing the pass-through signal from the external source.
Works for me ..I hope it works for you!

Camcorder Analog to Digital

What is the best converter reasonably priced to do a decent job? I have been looking at this one:
canopus ADVC-55 A/D Converter
Any thoughts or anyone that has used it?
Thanks for any and all help.
Hoping you all have a great Holiday Season!
Margit in Minnesota

"Reasonably priced" and "decent" are pretty vague and subjective terms, so it's hard to give a suggestion.
My seven year old Canon ZR-40 MiniDV camcorder has analog to digital conversion feature. I have used it often to import analog AV into iMovie. It has worked quite well. Perhaps a friend has a similar one you can borrow. You could also search eBay for old similar camcorders. Even broken models sold "as is" for a few dollars might have the analog-digital feature still working. Good luck.

Spartan e3 Analog 2 Digital

Hi,
i've a problem concerning analog to digital conversion using my spartan e3 fpga.
I set the PreAmp as recommended in the User Guide and want to start analog to digital conversion.
I also disable the other SPI devices in order to read out the MISO properly. But when i've no signal neither on
ADC A nor on ADC B i can read out values, which a different from zero. And the most confusing thing is, that
the values are changing with the time.
I also use a 34 cycles to read out the data properly.
Best regards,
Steve Ness

Hi Steve,
an analog-digital converter needs a input source with a well-defined impedance.
If you have an open analog input (floating) the ADC provides you with any value. Mostly this value changes slowly.
More details you can take from the following documents:
Troubleshooting Unexpected Voltages, Floating, or Crosstalk on Analog Input Channels
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/B9BCDFD960C06B9186256A37007490CD
You can test the analog input with a battery.
I hope this helps.
With best regards,
Ralf N.

Best way to archive a bunch of DV / Digital Hi8 tapes?

I have a bunch of MiniDV / Digital Hi8 tapes (and the associated cameras) that I have not gotten around to cleaning up and put on DVD.
I am looking at a Flip MinoHD as a replacement for both. I live the quality / features of our Sony MiniDV but it's size and tape requirements result in it being left home most of the time.
So I am looking to get the video off the tapes and onto a HD or DVD for future use (and sell the cameras). Is there an easy way to take a DV tape and export to a MPEG4 / H.234 file etc. that I can drag and drop directly into iMovie '08 / iMovie HD6?

In short, no. The math will never change: the larger the file size the better the quality. In the case of H.264 or MP4 content, this is highly compressed and iMovie won't edit it in it's native form, it is converted to AIC which again has a file size much closer to that of DV material if not larger actually. Any flavor of MPEG compression (including the camera linked to) is throwing away frames. What you want to know is can you compress DV to MPEG and then Uncompress it later. Sure... but you will take a quality hit on the compression and again when uncompressed. As example, DV material is 30-frames per second, when compressed it to MPEG 2 it is now 2-frames per second with the encoder "remembering" the motion difference. When de-compressed again, the application will attempt to restore the 28 missing frames. Google MPEG 2 compression for more of an explanation.
It might help to think of it this way: you have a beautiful 16x20 wall print that you want to store for future use. If you store the 16x20 it's going to take up the appropriate space. To save on space, you could store a wallet size image. Then when you wanted the 16x20, you could scan the wallet and uprez it to 16x20. Won't be the same- but you saved some space. Again, the math doesn't change.
You can compress your DV movie to a DVD (MPEG2). And hopefully the quality is visually the same- but that is NOT archiving source material by any means.
Mike

FCPX won't import video from analog - digital conversion source

Our studio is going through some of our tape library in an effort to archive some of our old footage. We have a Sony Betacam SP deck for playback, and a Pioneer MiniDV/SVHS combo deck with an IEEE-1394 output. We hooked up the Betacam deck to the combo deck through the composite inputs, and the 1394 port to the Mac. When we open the import dialog, we are able to see and hear the video just fine. We click the import button, check the settings, and the import timer in the upper left rolls. However, when we stop the import, no video has been recorded at all. Nearest I can tell, it refuses to record because the DV deck isn't actually running (just passthrough) and therefore no timecode data is running through the firewire. However, when we hook up our camera via firewire, it streams capturable video just fine, even if the camera isn't recording. This setup worked fine on an Edius machine a few months back. Is there a setting in FCP I'm missing?

I understand better now. My FCP X is version 10.0.9. I saw that the latest version on Yosemite is, I think, 10.1.4. Do you know if the new version will work better to solve my problem?
I have an old 2007 Mac Pro 2,1 which would not let me install MacOS X after 10.7. However, recently I was able to buy a Yosemite install system which includes edited parts that makes it installable onto my Mac Pro. I did the installation recently and I have also installed the FCP X. However, I have not yet fully moved to this system disk. I am trying to make sure it will work OK on my Mac Pro before I commit to it.
Another option may be is that I can try is to install the oldest version of FCP X if I can find to see if it will work to archive my Hi8 tapes. My family members are asking me for these, about 15 year old, videos.
Do you know if old iMovie 6 or HD can do archive like FCP X? If they do they may be the best alternative to FCP X archive, if FCP X recognize and use iMovie 6 or HD archives?
If iMovie 6 or HD does not archive like FCP X then I read that there is another problem, the iMovie output is .dv format and needs to be translated to another format to be importable into FCPX. If I use this method I need to find and purchase a good quality video transfer software. However, as you know, every transfer reduces recording quality.
I am also getting lost in video formats. QT 7 producing .mov, iMovie .dv. I think there are several more formats such as .mpg, .m4v, .m2v, etc. Are they all have the same quality for a certain video or their video quality depends on the video format such as the listed, please? If later, which video formats are preferred or recognized for good quality video, please?
I really want to be able to archive right into FCP X, if I can. This is my best solution. I am trying to find out if this can be done. If not possible, any other solution that will capture and import the DV output of GV-D800 into FCP X with the same quality as FCP X will be my second choice. I would appreciate your expertise and advice on these issues, please.
Thank you very much for all your help,
Tumay

Analog to Digital conversion of hi8 tapes

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