Anamorphic vs Letterbox

Concerning the TRV-950: use the DV PAL or NTSC 4:3 preset. 16:9 will not work, since the camera uses a 'fault' widescreen in a 4:3 frame.

I made this from some old D8 widescreen footage.
I think the older models such as the D8 had stretched picture in the viewfinder, but a letterbox LCD.
Edit: oh I wish I could edit my spelling mistakes in previous posts.

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Mixing anamorphic and letterboxed footage

Is it possible to mix anamorphic and letterboxed DV footage in Final Cut?
I have a project that was shot on both formats.
How should I proceed?
Thanks.

And, if I need to, can I convert the final video to true 16x9 anamorphic, so it'll play full screen on a 16x9 monitor or theater screen?
Yes, but it will look like crud. This question gets asked a bunch so there are lots of responses out there explaining why this will be the case.
Oh, and if I need to convert the whole video to 4x3 full screen for intranet distribution, is it possible too? Thanks.
Yes, cropping and/or reducing the size for internet or intranet distribution can be accomplished using Compressor or QTPro.
Good luck.
x

16 x 9 anamorphic or letterbox?

From CS3 I rendered out a short film to DVD at 16:9, 29.97, NTSC.....
The original files in Premiere files are 1920 x 1080 so I can still render it to Blu-Ray.
My question relates to some film festivals projecting the movie from Digitbeta and Beta SP, which I assume I can somehow transfer to.
However, they ask the Digital Aspect Ratio. ....16x9 (letterbox) or 16x9 (anamorphic).
Since my original files are widescreen 16x 9, which would the digital aspect ratio be, letterbox or anamorphic?
Near the top, on the right hand side, is where they specify the aspect ratio: http://www.sdff.org/pdf/SDFF.%202010.%20Entry%20Form.pdf

Your dvd will be anamorphic. (squised)
Letterbox means widescreen within a 4x3 screen with black bars top and bottom.

Anamorphic is letterboxed

I always shoot in anamorphic 16:9 on my dv camera. When I capture media FCE asks me if I want to adjust the timeline to suit the media. I say yes. All is well.
I just completed a project and noticed that it is letterboxed in a 4:3 canvas, instead of actually have a 16:9 aspect ratio. The timeline is not checked as being anamorphic. When I check it, the letter box simply stretches wider. How do I get rid of the letterbox (on top and bottom) and change the frame size to 16:9?
PS I'm not sure how this happened--if it has been like this all along or I did something to transform it.

I've been having major issues with exporting in FCE and this is the closest thread I've found to my problem. I guess I'm confused about what anamorphic is. If I want to keep the picture looking correct and not stretched in some way i always have to select 'leterbox' to keep the aspect ratio. example: http://vimeo.com/13159947
I just tried (and hopefully i did it right) what is talked and after exporting it the quality is 'line-y'. I would so much like to get rid of the black box around my videos without sacrificing quality or ratio. I shoot with a kodak zi8 and a HD gopro Hero and I would like to keep the HD quality as well. Is there some where that explicitly explains how to do this? is it a problem with my importing? a setting somewhere? export setting? I shoot in 1280X720 and If someone could maybe point me to a good tutorial or something that would be great to.
Thanks,
Andrew

Anamorphic to letterbox ...?

I have an Anamorphic clip which I want to turn into a 720x480 letterboxed sequence.
So, I created a new sequence with the letterbox settings and I switch to it. Then I drag the Anamorphic sequence to the Letterboxed one.
It gets the result I want... except for one thing: it doesn't seem to carry the colour correction filters across from the Anamorphic.
How can I create this Letterbox seq and have all the filters come across as well?
Thanks,,

Hi Bansaw,
What do you mean by "...it doesn't seem to carry the colour correction filters across...". How did you find that to be true?
Did you drag the anamorphic sequence from the browser into the letterbox sequence?
In that case you 'nested' the sequence. Adjusting the colorcorrection in the Anamorphic sequence should also be seen in the Letterboxsequence.
Or did you select all in the anamorphic sequence and then 'Copy'.
And then 'paste' in the Letterbox sequence?
In that case the filters come along with the copy. The link with the anamorphic sequence is broken though...
Tell us what you dis, because in both ways it should work.
Rienk

Anamorphic and letterbox footage

hi, I have shot some footage, some letter boxed, and a couple of scenes were anamorphic, I am now wanting to capture them in order to edit it, but i dont know how to make them compatable with each other. Could someone please run through for me how I set up my project etc in order to do that? Cheers.

Dude... I love posting -- especially when they ask me a direct question.
Check this thread again... I answered a question you asked as a reply to one of MINE.
Since I actually DID answer your question -- check #3... you can thank me.
I especially like answering posts of people who don't even take their own time to figure things out on their own. Seems you have to jump in and ask questions you don't want answered because you are too lazy to even TRY it yourself.
Go back to bed and pray for some thick skin... you're going to need it where you are wanting to go.
Good luck
CaptM

LHi won't letterbox on CRT

First of all, anamorphic analog scaling works great on FCP.
I have a Kona LHi in my MacPro3,1. I have the latest Adobe Plug-in installed. My Sequence settings call for an anamorphic or letterbox display on my Analog out.
I don't get anything but a full-screen output on my analog CRT. No matter what settings I use in the AJA Adobe plug inside Pr, or the AJA Control Panel app.
I can apply the proper setting in the AJA CP; then switch to Pr with the workspace size reduced so that I can see the AJA CP, and as soon as I activate Pr, the settings change, and the anamorphic setting is turned off. It changes the Analog selection to Primary, which doesn't do letterboxing; that's only available to the secondary output.
This tells me that the AJA Plug in Pr isn't allowing the app to use the secondary output at all. No matter what Secondary Format options I choose, they are ignored.
So... is this a Pr issue, or an AJA Adobe driver issue?

Hmm... wonder if your problem could be related to this?
Hardware MPE must be OFF to be able to export via Firewire
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/902499?tstart=0
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/880824?tstart=0

Letterbox Aspect Ratio Issues

I apologise if this has already been posted, but I am having some trouble with getting fcp to display the correct aspect ratio for some footage I shot.
I filmed it in PAL on a Panasonic DVX100 in Letterbox. When I put it into FCP it appears squashed. This happens regardless of whether I choose normal DV PAL or DV PAL Anamorphic.
Sorry if it is something really obvious.
Thank you in advance.
Jack

Jack Boswell wrote:
When I put it into FCP it appears squashed.
I take it you mean horizontally squashed, making the picture (and consequently people in it) tall and thin as opposed to vertically squashed, making it short and fat. If so then technically you shot 16:9 anamorphic, not letterbox, despite how it appears in the viewfinder.
Jack Boswell wrote:
This happens regardless of whether I choose normal DV PAL or DV PAL Anamorphic.
As what? clip or sequence settings? If the clips are not marked anamorphic then changing the sequence setting won't help. Make sure that the clips are set to anamorphic (right click>item properties>format), and then make an anamorphic sequence to work in.

Easy Setup Suggestions

Hi everyone,
ok, once again a silly question, but apparently in the past I committed mistakes so...
I'm shooting HDV with an HDR FX1, will import as SD for sake of time and hard drive space. Final destination will be DVD and TV.
What easy setup should I use? In the past I used DV-NTSC but Tom once asked me why I had choosen that... especially when I had to use the filter "widescreen" to crop transitions and other effects. If I had choosen the right setup that wouldn't have been necessary.
My camera will output SD 720X480 footage letterboxed. What is the best setup for timline and output????
Is there any reading I could do about the different setups?
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Umberto
iBook-hopefully soon a ProBook Mac OS X (10.4.6)

DV is always 720x480 (NTSC anyway) whether it's anamorphic or letterboxed for not. I am pretty sure that camera will output a DV anamorphic signal as well as a letterboxed signal. Read the manual to figure out how to do this. It sounds as if you're sending a letterboxed signal to FCE, not an anamorphic one. When you say it's stretched, which way is it stretched, up and down, or left and right? It should look correct in the capture window.

What do you call an image that is 16:9 constrained by a 4:3 frame

16:9, but it exists within a 4:3 aspect ratio. It's a 16:9 aspet ratio, with its right and left edges cut off. When you created the image this way, you had option to letterbox it. Can this be described in a word (a convenient shothand like the word "anamorphic" or "letterbox"? (a 4:3 within a 16:9 is called "flowerbox"?) This is a 16:9 within a 4:3. It is full height.

But there's one you left out - the one I'm asking about can be viewed this way. You begin with anamorphic - 4:3. Now you pull out the sides until you have a full normal looking image but it's horizontal edges cannot be seen, you've lost the sides of the 169: when it's done.. Like taking a 4:3 template and placing it over a 16:9 image. I just thought of it! It relates to the traditonal "pan and scan" effect, before letterbox was hardly popular. But there should be a better, more up to date term.
I actually use this a lot. Let say I'm working in DVCAM (I know, old hat). But the source image is anamorphic 4:3. I pull the sides outward until the geometry looks normal. But I'm losing the sides of he image. I can pan it if I like to adjust for the center.

Image "Squeezed" when export to compressor and import to DSP

I've Edited and created many 4:3 movies and not had problems creating DVDs. This is my first HiDef footage that I captured in FCP as DV.
Looks good in letterbox in Final Cut. I exported to compressor in order to later create DVD in DSP. I made sure I exported using the 16:9 option with compressor. When previewing in DSP, the image looks "squished".
Am I not exporting it properly for what I need to do? Is there a setting in DSP that I need to change in order to create a 16:9 DVD?
Thanks in advance

First, you should bring your footage to DVD SP as 16:9 anamorphic, not letterboxed.
Setting preferences for a 16:9 project:
Open DVD studio pro.
If a project is open just close it.
In DVD SP preferences choose "Project" and make sure DVD Standard is set to 'SD DVD'.
Click apply.
Open the "General" tab and in the SD DVD Menus, Tracks and Slideshows dropdown choose '16:9 Letterbox'.
Click apply then the OK button.
You are now ready to create a new 16:9 project.
Import your footage and get to work.

DV NTSC vs. DV50 NTSC

I'm trying to capture video shot in NTSC 16:9 using FCP 5 but the only option I have in the menu is DV50 NTSC anamorphic. Why is there no DV NTSC anamorphic setting? Can I use the DV50 NTSC anamorphic setting?
I want to capture at the hightest possible quality.
Thanks.
Peter

I'm assuming you've shot 16:9 anamorphic (not letterboxed). 2 choices: Just capture at regular dv NTSC and then turn on the anarmophic flag once you've captured or duplicate the capture preset and turn on the anamorphic flag.

Artifacts during motion.

I'm in final week before delivery on an 80minute piece. I am getting artifacts in fast motion (particularly white) areas of the production when I go to mpeg2 for the DVD.
final output is for DVD PAL 16:9 Anamorphic for letterboxed 4:3.
Input: includes
Mpeg2 footage converted to DV files(via mpeg2stream) from a HardDrive SD
DV footage imported as QuickTime from a 3.2 PAL 3ccd cam
and Stills in the form of jpgs and tiffs.
I am outputting through Compressor CBR at a preset bit-rate with all of the choices in place, I have added compression markers to the difficult places.. the problem doesn't seem to be getting better.
I have even gone back to source footage but somewhere in my pipeline these clips are running into problems.
Any advise?

Try using the 3 way Color Corrector and bringing down your whites to 90%. Also check the footage on the scopes to make sure it's legal.
Elements that are of out of luma and/or chroma safe limits can cause fits in encoding and playback.
x

Is there any way to export 2.35 Anamorphic source to a 16x9 letterboxed frame WITH timecode or text overlays?

I have been trying to export temp cuts of an anamorphic project (2.35:1) in a letterboxed 16:9 frame with timecode and text overlays and other Additional Video Effects. Converting the 2.35 to 16x9 has been a breeze with the Preserve Aspect Ratio option in Cropping & Padding . The problem is that the black bars that that puts in the 16:9 frame appear OVER any of the Additional Video Effects, thus covering them up.
E.g. if I select a Text Overlay and place it in the Center, I can see it just fine. But if I want it Upper Left, Title Safe, it is covered by the black space of the Letterboxing. So the Additional Video Effects are getting added, they are just getting covered by the letterboxing. You can even see the very edge of the text in the Title Safe position, peeking out from behind the letterboxing, which is, of course, frustrating .
Thus far it's been a two-step process: letterbox the anamorphic source, then add TC and other video effects in a second job.
So - is there any way to do this in ONE step? It would really help my anamorphic workflow.
(apologies for the lengthy question.)
[I'm using FCPX 10.1.3 & Compressor 4.1.3, in OSX 10.9.5 on Retina MBP, Late 2013, w/ NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB]

Thanks for the reply Russ.
Yes, I've considered adding titles and/or generators in the FCPX storyline, but this creates a need to render the entire timeline. As I'm juggling library locations and hard drive spaces I just didn't want to add a new render that will occupy a lot of space. It's also a bit of visual clultter for me, so my goal is to find the best workflow for adding this stuff on or after export.

Anamorphic sequence with letterboxes

Hi
I have a sequence that was shot on an xl2 in 16:9, it was digitized in a 4:3 project and edited. I have a client who only has widescreen tv's. I made the sequence 16:9 anamorphic in my sequence settings. It still has letter boxes on it, I need to remove the letter boxes. I tried removing attributes basic motion and distortion which has been recommended a lot here. Those attributes aren't an option, the only options for video are filter and speed. I tried dumping it to tape and digitizing it into a 16:9 anamorphic project but it only logs and captures in the 4:3 ratio with letterboxes. What should I do.

To start with you shouldn't capture and edit in 4:3 if your material is anamorphic. Now you're trying to resurrect the situation that you've quite badly messed up by not capturing and editing your material properly. At this stage it's kind of hard to tell what to do, without knowing what your program actually looks like and now the material is designated. Has the material been set to anamorphic? You probably need to do that first for ALL your material. You can do that in the browser columns for multiple items. It's more difficult for items that have been edited into sequences. Does the material at this stage look correct in the 4:3 sequence, or does it have letterboxing, or does it look distorted? You can set the anamorphic flag for this material for each item, but them you have to copy and paste the content into a new 16:9 sequence, and then you'll have to remove the distortion created by having edited it into a 4:3 sequence in the first place.

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